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  • 09-05-2008, 08:41 PM
    zoiexpieds
    PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    So I'm a vet tech and we have a lot of show breeders that bring their dogs in for artificial inseminations and breeding inquiries and such, we did a Boxer C-section on July 10th and one of the pups was white, the breeder asked us to put him to the side and not wake him up, and just let him die. I was absolutely SHOCKED! I turned around and told her it was not my job to let puppies die, and woke the pup up anyways. Well since she cannot keep the white ones because they are worth nothing in show, I now have a new member of the family, and he's 8 weeks yesterday, so here he is! Meet Panda!


    Panda loves his daddy
    http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/P1000361.jpg

    and lots of chew toys
    http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/P1000356.jpg
    http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/P1000352.jpg
    http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/P1000351.jpg

    http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/P1000347.jpg
    http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...o/P1000360.jpg

    He has been so much fun and we look forward to a lifetime with him!

    :D
  • 09-05-2008, 08:45 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Boxers are the best!!!!!

    And you got a cutie
  • 09-05-2008, 08:51 PM
    Emilio
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Nice boxer welcome to the club I have a male and female. Rocky and Gigi.
  • 09-05-2008, 09:15 PM
    janeothejungle
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Congrats!!! That is one cute little peanut you got there!!

    Cheers,
    Kat
  • 09-05-2008, 09:32 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Congrats!
  • 09-05-2008, 09:47 PM
    marmie
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    That is the cutest dog I've ever seen. He's a piebald!

    Did you bottle feed him or did the lady at least let his mother take care of him until he was old enough for you to have?
  • 09-05-2008, 10:04 PM
    zoiexpieds
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marmie View Post
    That is the cutest dog I've ever seen. He's a piebald!

    Did you bottle feed him or did the lady at least let his mother take care of him until he was old enough for you to have?


    Fortunately, I did not have to bottle feed him, he did get to stay with his mother until he was 6 weeks, then I weaned him with dry food wetted down with espilac.
  • 09-05-2008, 10:08 PM
    Laooda
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    What a DOLL FACE!!!!! I love those tri-color markings! :oops: Congrats!
  • 09-05-2008, 10:11 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    The culling of white boxer puppies is a practice that officially doesn't occur anymore. Good for you for taking the puppy. You will have a great dog.
  • 09-05-2008, 10:17 PM
    ChicaPiton519
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    wow, he is gorgeous!

    i love his little eye patches!
  • 09-05-2008, 10:37 PM
    spk329
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Good luck with him .........He is absolutely adorable, Enjoy him :)
  • 09-05-2008, 10:38 PM
    Ladydragon
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Oh what a QT!!! what a shame that this particular breeder still culls white puppies. His face is adorable.. I just wanna snoodle him and give him lots of hugs and kisses.. well, you can do that for me. :D congrats on the new family member.
  • 09-06-2008, 12:28 AM
    tweets_4611
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    What a beautiful little face!!! It is a shame that the breeders do that, but at least now you have an adorable new addition to your family! ^_^
  • 09-06-2008, 12:44 AM
    python.princess
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    I didn't know those came in white! Haha! How adorable!
  • 09-06-2008, 02:07 AM
    RoyalGuardian
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Haha!!! What a little sweetheart!! You have the most beautiful boxer I have ever seen! :gj::gj: Two thumbs way way up!
  • 09-06-2008, 02:29 AM
    starmom
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Awww,, what a cutie little pup! :P
    And you?
    :bow: You are an angel. :bow:
    Thank you for practicing a random act of kindness.
  • 09-06-2008, 04:04 AM
    sweety314
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Awwwwwww :aww: Cuteness overload!!!! What a pretty puppy. Congrats on your new baby!:gj:
  • 09-06-2008, 06:47 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    What a face! He's about as adorable as any pup can be (and I think that breeder's an idiot but I won't get on my soapbox in your thread). I think he's found himself a wonderful home. :)
  • 09-06-2008, 06:54 AM
    Alice
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Awwwww, he is so cute!

    I didn't realize that white pups were culled . . . can someone explain why this "used to" happen?
  • 09-06-2008, 11:53 PM
    sweety314
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    More than likely b/c the breed standards guidelines states that excessive white (and I forgot the %) is a "defect"....so it disqualifies the pup for registery and showing.

    That's why DD has a reg. Arab mare for free. The mare wasn't 'type-y' enough to satisfy their show needs and they didn't want such a horse assoc'd w/the farm name, so Chyp was basically "free to a good home". I did it for Robin, but also w/the stipulation we'd get the papers, and NOT have to refuse to breed her (some day). They agreed. We have the Arab, she's in a good home and Robin has a best friend. :D

    Seeing the puppy pics makes me miss my first puppy, who was a boxer. But I still love the look!!!!!! Still cuteness overload!
  • 09-07-2008, 06:43 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alice View Post
    Awwwww, he is so cute!

    I didn't realize that white pups were culled . . . can someone explain why this "used to" happen?

    Alice, this is from the AKC breed standards (my bold)....

    Color
    The colors are fawn and brindle. Fawn shades vary from light tan to mahogany. The brindle ranges from sparse but clearly defined black stripes on a fawn background to such a heavy concentration of black striping that the essential fawn background color barely, although clearly, shows through (which may create the appearance of reverse brindling). White markings, if present, should be of such distribution as to enhance the dog's appearance, but may not exceed one-third of the entire coat. They are not desirable on the flanks or on the back of the torso proper. On the face, white may replace part of the otherwise essential black mask, and may extend in an upward path between the eyes, but it must not be excessive, so as to detract from true Boxer expression. The absence of white markings, the so-called "plain" fawn or brindle, is perfectly acceptable, and should not be penalized in any consideration of color. Disqualifications Boxers that are any color other than fawn or brindle. Boxers with a total of white markings exceeding one-third of the entire coat.

    So sadly, whether it's moral or not, some breeders apparently can't be bothered with pups that are too white. Instead of doing the right thing and letting an otherwise perfectly healthy pup nurse frpm it's mother, then selling it or adopting it out as a pet only pup with a must spay/neuter clause - they are discarded. Sad isn't it. :(
  • 09-09-2008, 06:41 AM
    rabernet
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Actually, I was told by a neighbor who had a pure white boxer (that taught Diamond how to box), that breeders culled the white, because there were known health genetic defects associated with white boxers.

    This was years ago, so I don't remember the specific details, but I remember how much we loved Raiden (they've since moved) and were surprised to hear of the culling of white boxers as well.
  • 09-11-2008, 12:16 AM
    sweety314
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    a lot of breeds have blindness and deafness in high whites.

    Thanks Joanna for the quote from the AKC c the amount of white. I couldn't remember how much it was that disqualified a dog. It's been many years since we had ours, and she was a fawn w/only white toes.
  • 09-11-2008, 06:12 AM
    JoMo
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    I think you have to separate albino boxers and (simply) white boxers.

    Albinism is known to generate several deficiencies in boxers, being blindness and deafness two of the major ones (but also kidney problems, if I remember it well).

    "Whitness" is a different story. As long as the one of the parents has the recessive gene - even if they have no white at all - the puppies may be 1% to (close to) 100% white.

    As Joanna mentioned, according to the breed standards, only up to 1/3 of the dog may be white. A few years ago there was a movement to change that - in the US or Canada, I believe - because when breeding the Canada champion to the All America champion, in 8 puppies...8 were more than 1/3 white. I donīt know, however, how things developed (apparently they didnīt)

    Here in Europe, the breed standard remains the same: more than 1/3 white is not considered within the breed standards.

    By the way.. I just love your puppy!

    But Iīm partial... I just love white boxers :D:D

    (Iīll post a picture of my 4 y.o. girl tomorrow)
  • 09-12-2008, 02:41 PM
    megabrain
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    I just died from the cuteness.:dead:

    I love Boxers. I'm so happy you saved him and brought him home.
  • 09-12-2008, 02:45 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    JoMo, great point about the difference in white and being genetically an albino. I grew up with two GSD's. Beautiful big males, gorgeous look, well set, perfect temperment, very healthy and large males - definitely good representatives of their breed. Their biggest fault - they were born white. Snow white but not albino's.
  • 09-12-2008, 03:15 PM
    Phil
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    He looks great! We have three Boxers with one being white. He is from champion lines and all it cost was a $50 donation! The whites are my favorite....
  • 09-12-2008, 03:32 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoMo View Post
    I think you have to separate albino boxers and (simply) white boxers.

    Albinism is known to generate several deficiencies in boxers, being blindness and deafness two of the major ones (but also kidney problems, if I remember it well).

    "Whitness" is a different story. As long as the one of the parents has the recessive gene - even if they have no white at all - the puppies may be 1% to (close to) 100% white.

    As Joanna mentioned, according to the breed standards, only up to 1/3 of the dog may be white. A few years ago there was a movement to change that - in the US or Canada, I believe - because when breeding the Canada champion to the All America champion, in 8 puppies...8 were more than 1/3 white. I donīt know, however, how things developed (apparently they didnīt)

    Here in Europe, the breed standard remains the same: more than 1/3 white is not considered within the breed standards.

    By the way.. I just love your puppy!

    But Iīm partial... I just love white boxers :D:D

    (Iīll post a picture of my 4 y.o. girl tomorrow)

    This is very interesting and a good point! However, high-white non-albinos I have heard to have defects as well.
    For example, cats that are all white with blue eyes tend to be blind and/or deaf. My aunt had an all white cat who was lucky to not be blind, but was almost completely deaf.

    :]

    That is one of the cutest boxers I have seen. Fantastic thing you did for him!
  • 09-12-2008, 06:59 PM
    JoMo
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    So, as promised, here is my ("high white") girl
    (pics are of Summer 06; se is now 4 y.o)

    http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2499/julho019db7.jpg

    http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/423...2006007uw7.jpg

    http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2887/jun07006bx8.jpg

    (she always look kind of "goofy")
  • 09-13-2008, 01:07 AM
    sweety314
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    This is very interesting and a good point! However, high-white non-albinos I have heard to have defects as well.
    For example, cats that are all white with blue eyes tend to be blind and/or deaf. My aunt had an all white cat who was lucky to not be blind, but was almost completely deaf.

    :]

    That is one of the cutest boxers I have seen. Fantastic thing you did for him!


    THAT was the point I was trying to make, not the albinism. :colbert:

    We've got 10 dogs in the local rescue that are blind/deaf or both from either a wee bit to 100% b/c the backyard breeder bred two merle aussies together and the entire litter of 8 were affected to some degree.
  • 09-13-2008, 01:29 AM
    whitewolf
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Those are interesting markings. I've never seen a mostly white boxer. Very cute though :)
  • 10-11-2008, 07:58 PM
    zoiexpieds
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoMo View Post
    So, as promised, here is my ("high white") girl
    (pics are of Summer 06; se is now 4 y.o)

    http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2499/julho019db7.jpg

    http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/423...2006007uw7.jpg

    http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2887/jun07006bx8.jpg

    (she always look kind of "goofy")

    OH MY GOD, she is so freakin cute. I love her expressions! thats the boxer trait, very curious and they express everything they feel!
  • 10-12-2008, 02:46 AM
    nchapa
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    I dont know about show dogs, but a white pup like yours, with those patches over the eyes, that would have been my pick.

    Congrats on your new pup, and good job, in not letting him die.
  • 10-18-2008, 03:26 PM
    Whittney32
    Re: PICTURES of my new Boxer baby
    A big thank you from a fellow white boxer owner for not allowing that to happen!
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38.../LugerBath.jpg

    Congratulations on your new gorgeous baby!
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