help with breeding bp

When after they mate do you notice the female ovulate or swell up. how long after exactly and how long does it last because my 3 female mojaves have been being bread by my male mojave and i dont want them to lay before i get the incubator ready. I know they go through a pre lay shed, and 2 of my females are shedding now and im not sure if its a prelay or just a regular shed. how can i tell if they are pregnant, and please only people with experience answer this, i dont wanna mess up with this im trying to produce lucy's and i dont want to loose any eggs.... thank you very much

Post a few pics be alot easier to see if they look gravid that way ;)

And a few things to look for Water bowl wrapping and spending alot of time on the cool end if they are still just developing follicles and if they Have ovualted already or getting close to it 99% of the time they will sit on the hot end hugging the heat


and a real easy way to see if how far along they are is to just palpate them and see how big the follicles are

and Why wouldnt you have an incubator set up already ???

You were very specific in your post about who you wanted to reply, so I wont give any advice due to my lack of experience.
I will say that you are an idiot though!

thats nice immature people on this site, if you dont have anything nice to say please keep it to yourself. I do have a incubator ready, but i dont wanna start heating it up at least 2 weeks before i know they will lay I got the incubator idea from Justin of O.C.D. he is a cool guy..so i can get the temp just right.... ill get some pics and yes she is usually on the heated side and also around the water bowl, I put my male with her 3 times in the past 2 weeks and they really don't bother with each other much anymore, but before they were always together and locked up and i made sure they were. would a male still mate with the female if she is pregnant... how do you palpate them??
Thanks for the help!!!

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Originally Posted by DaveyFig

I will say that you are an idiot though!

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That is uncalled for. He is just asking for help.

Well, since you neither care to read what us inexperienced people have to post, I don't know if this link will get lost on deaf ears. (or blind eyes?)

http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html

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Originally Posted by DaveyFig

I will say that you are an idiot though!

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but it was kinda funny though.

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Originally Posted by munding

but it was kinda funny though.

whoops. sorry i posted twice. inexperienced keyboard

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I don't think it was.

He came here looking for help which is what this site is intended for... Its not here to call people names when they have questions.

:colbert:

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Originally Posted by munding

but it was kinda funny though.

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I 2nd this LOL

good point..my bad:peace:

I didnt mean to sound rude... but i just don't think being called an idiot is going to help him, if anything its going to discorage him form coming back for further help.

:)

No - it was not funny the first time, nor with the endorsements.

Have we all forgotten when keeping and breeding ball pythons was new to each of us?

We are here to promote helping one another, NOT be hostile to each other. That post has been addressed by the staff. I'd suggest that we get this thread back on topic.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Have we all forgotten when keeping and breeding ball pythons was new to each of us?

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It's still new to me! I am constantly reading breeding threads trying to learn more about it before i get started next year :)

There is a link to a site with step by step photos of each stage, from mating to hatching. I'm sorry I cannot locate it, perhaps another member can.

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Originally Posted by missi182

There is a link to a site with step by step photos of each stage, from mating to hatching. I'm sorry I cannot locate it, perhaps another member can.

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Post #6, maybe? ;)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Post #6, maybe? ;)

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How did I miss that...lol...I thought it was a link in the siggy...

Sigh, don't tell me I have to read posts carefully now do I:weirdfacelol

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Originally Posted by missi182

Sigh, don't tell me I have to read posts carefully now do I:weirdfacelol

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That might help :)

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Originally Posted by Lewdogg3

That might help :)

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hey I'm only kidding;) I always read previous posts before I add my 2 cents...But sometimes I read faster than my brain can keep up with, ha.

Newho, I hope that link helps.

I would just get the incubator fired up. last year i was waiting for an ovulation and got 6 eggs in Feb. Better safe than sorry.

OK, I am sorry for being so blunt in my short post. I will refrain from jumping to such conclusions in the future. I just thought it was ...hmmm...less than desireable...to put the animals into a breeding situation , obviously knowing so little about them.
I am not going to say that producing beautiful babies to sell is going to justify it, but think about how much stress an animal goes through during the breeding season. Is it really a good idea to put them through that if you don't even know what to do next?
I know, I know, the forum is here to learn from each other. In one post this person expects all of the experienced breeders to come forth and answer his VERY BASIC questions.
Just out of curiosity, did anyone ask him if he was an idiot before assuming I was wrong and just saying it to be mean? THe evidence I saw lead me to that conclusion, so I made an observation, aparently the wrong one. Again , I am sorry.
Lets see some pics of those Mojaves!

Ok, I already put my hand into the bear trap, what do I do next?

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Originally Posted by royalballs

When after they mate do you notice the female ovulate or swell up. how long after exactly and how long does it last because my 3 female mojaves have been being bread by my male mojave and i dont want them to lay before i get the incubator ready. I know they go through a pre lay shed, and 2 of my females are shedding now and im not sure if its a prelay or just a regular shed. how can i tell if they are pregnant, and please only people with experience answer this, i dont wanna mess up with this im trying to produce lucy's and i dont want to loose any eggs.... thank you very much

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Now I REALLY want to see the mojaves! I I really like Ivories too, any pics of those?

http://www.colombianboas.com/gallery...royalballs.gif

Some people stick a little toe in the ocean that is ball pythons, while others dive in head-first. The very few people that know about my collection and # of females I am breeding this season would say I chose the later route. The things that you don't know -- that you don't know -- are the things that can bite you during your first year breeding. You can read about it, be told about it, do a search about it, and look at pictures. But, SEEING IT first hand is making the difference for me during my first season.

I still feel like a "total newbie"-- and I have my first clutch hatched, 6 cooking, and 30 girls that have ovulated. Like a notable breeder told me last spring when I was CLUELESS and freaked-out about the breeding process, "Bill, it's not that hard if you get down the basics. However, there are a lot of little ways you can make a BIG mistake". So true!!!

You learn by doing in many cases. Everybody was new to breeding at one time. If one waits until they have EVERYTHING covered/understood -- they would likely never breed. JUMP ON IN. THE WATER IS FINE...he says with that uncertain grin on his face!???!!

LOL this is funny. Please fellas to much drama haha thanks for those who backed me up. But i feel that those people that have the time to read posts then make fun of them really have no life and usually no education. ha anyways i learned how to palpate today thanks youtube.com lol And in my bigest female i felt 8 golfball sized lumps could be more or less. but im very happy to have learned it too bad i didnt feel anything in my other females, maybe they are still developing. and im sorry to have offended those other people when i said "please only those with experience reply" i never meant to piss you off, but i just rather get professional help with facts and hands on experience, then average joes (like me) that heard something somewhere or read something off the internet. lol so dont take it the wrong way ok well bye

What I wonder is how in the heck this species ever propagated without assistance in the wild. With as much technical information on breeding available, how do these cold-blooded creatures, with such a primitive nervous system able to procreate.

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Originally Posted by Pintado

What I wonder is how in the heck this species ever propagated without assistance in the wild. With as much technical information on breeding available, how do these cold-blooded creatures, with such a primitive nervous system able to procreate.

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Large numbers..

In the wild there are hundreds of thousands breeding every year. so out of those your bound to get some offspring. :D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Large numbers..

In the wild there are hundreds of thousands breeding every year. so out of those your bound to get some offspring. :D

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I was just trying to poke fun at our primitive attempt to reproduce normal environments with our current technologies that would improve our ball python breeding.

AAA...sorry I missed that.. :gj: