Disgusting

just read this.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_snake_vodka

I'm sorry, but I take offense to the fact that you call it disgusting.

In Chinese Culture, people do that with snakes in wine.

It is considered a medicine.

It may not be appealing to you, but it is a part of a long standing culture, and should not be judged like that.

Granted, this rancher may not be Chinese, but still... Judge not lest ye be judged.

yep, and my dad takes medication for his cancer that is made from snake venom.

I think that is pretty disgusting also. I hear what you other guys are saying but pythontricker has a right to his/her own opinion about this practice. Yes there are cultural practices that have been going on of this sort and I'm in no way saying they should be stopped. On the other hand this guy is trying to get rich buying cheap booze and throwing a snake in it. I agree that its disgusting and a waste, thats not saying Im slandering the rancher who did this. This is pretty far from using snake venom for medical reasons (cancer treatment, antivenom, or anything else), so Im going to have to disagree with you there. The bottom line to each his own opinion, and nonone has to become the "police" and lecture people on not judging others. No need to get offended because pythontricker doesnt agree with this practice.
just my 2 cents

james

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I think that is pretty disgusting also. I hear what you other guys are saying but pythontricker has a right to his/her own opinion about this practice. Yes there are cultural practices that have been going on of this sort and I'm in no way saying they should be stopped. On the other hand this guy is trying to get rich buying cheap booze and throwing a snake in it. I agree that its disgusting and a waste, thats not saying Im slandering the rancher who did this. This is pretty far from using snake venom for medical reasons (cancer treatment, antivenom, or anything else), so Im going to have to disagree with you there. The bottom line to each his own opinion, and nonone has to become the "police" and lecture people on not judging others. No need to get offended because pythontricker doesnt agree with this practice.
just my 2 cents

james

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Opinions, yes. Blatant judgements, no.

I think its quite cool!!!!! I would love to try it as well. I have taken a shot with a little cobras blood in it, (didnt do anything). But I have read about this and seen it on tv, and the venom actually enhances the alcohol

Or does the alcohol enhance the venom :O:O

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Opinions, yes. Blatant judgements, no.

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I agree that people shouldnt blatently judge anything also, but that doesnt mean I have some responsibility to stop it from happening. Python tricker said it was "disgusting", which can be percieved many ways. If someone wanted you to drink it, you might think it was "disgusting" also. This doesnt mean a total cultural "diss" or anything that offensive to anyone.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I'm sorry, but I take offense to the fact that you call it disgusting.

In Chinese Culture, people do that with snakes in wine.

It is considered a medicine.

It may not be appealing to you, but it is a part of a long standing culture, and should not be judged like that.

Granted, this rancher may not be Chinese, but still... Judge not lest ye be judged.

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They also eat dogs in China, but while they belong in what we would call the dog family here they are different than what we would think of as a family pet type dog! As long as the animal is uthanized in a humane way I don't see a problem. If I did see a problem then I guess I would have to become a vegitarian as lots of different animals are slaughtered every year for food, beverage, and scientific studies. Dang did I say Scientific Studies? I'm glad it doesn't offend me cause all those fancy medications your doctor gives you have been tested on animals first that had to be uthanized to study thier organs and see if any damage was being done to them and how much! Thank goodness they do these studies on animals or some of the medications used in your family possibly to save their lives wouldn't be here or maybe something who's effects were unknown would have been used on you or me at some point while we were getting medical treatment.

I am an official Carnivor! Hey I figure if people can claim to be herbivors in nature I can claim to be a Carnivor in nature!

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

I think its quite cool!!!!! I would love to try it as well. I have taken a shot with a little cobras blood in it, (didnt do anything). But I have read about this and seen it on tv, and the venom actually enhances the alcohol

Or does the alcohol enhance the venom :O:O

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I did it in China when I was there and the snakes aren't venomous. I also tried Turtle Shell Jelly, Frog soup, and some interesting seafood.

None of it that bad... I wouldn't go out looking for it, but definately interesting enough to try once.

I acutally had a neighbor when i was like 6 who made turtle shell jelly....cant say that i like that gunk

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Originally Posted by Gloryhound

They also eat dogs in China, but while they belong in what we would call the dog family here they are different than what we would think of as a family pet type dog!

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One thing I wouldn't try...

Just a personal thing :)

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I acutally had a neighbor when i was like 6 who made turtle shell jelly....cant say that i like that gunk

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Yeah, not my favorite.

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One thing I wouldn't try...

Just a personal thing :)

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Oh come on! Where is your adventures spirit? :D

While I was in Slovinia I told the cook to make what ever he felt like for me as long as it was a Slovinian dish! Not sure what I was eating every night, but it filled the belly and most of it was pretty good. Unfortunately I really have to stay away from Chineese food as the MSG or whatever it is in it can cause me some major migrain issues! :(

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Oh come on! Where is your adventures spirit? :D

While I was in Slovinia I told the cook to make what ever he felt like for me as long as it was a Slovinian dish! Not sure what I was eating every night, but it filled the belly and most of it was pretty good. Unfortunately I really have to stay away from Chineese food as the MSG or whatever it is in it can cause me some major migrain issues! :(

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LOL!!!

Maybe next time I go to China... Maybe. ;)

MSG in Chinese food is only the fake stuff you get at like Panda Express type of restaurants....

You go to real China or real chinese food, they don't even know what that stuff is!!!

I was at vons the other day, and you can buy MSG in a bottle. I didnt even think it was like that, i thought it was like "cholesterol". not something that can be bottled. lol

They eat bull testicles in Spain and hagus in Scotland. Different strokes for different folks; culture is all about being different! :)

Whether or not you have an open mind to appreciate and understand it is something completely different.

They have bull testicles here in Cali, J. F. Mc Klintocks serves em, quite tasty too.

People eat bull testicles here too...there is actually a pretty big "Calf fry" that goes on here every year, and that's what it is. That's what rocky mountian oysters are as well...animal testicles.

I didn't know the snake in the liquor was something that was done in other cultures, you learn something every day!! I do think it's pretty low of the guy to sell the stuff as a healing elixer when he knows that it's not, or at least it's not in the sence that he was trying to sell it. Just b/c the people he was selling to believed thought it was, doesn't make it something special.

I've never had them, but my parents bbq some weird stuff; if its found in a cow we bbq it in the summer. Blood sausage, sweet bread, other weird things I only know the names of in Spanish; Pat it sounds like you would enjoy the bbq at my hosue let me know if you're ever in NY.

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I've never had them, but my parents bbq some weird stuff; if its found in a cow we bbq it in the summer. Blood sausage, sweet bread, other weird things I only know the names of in Spanish; Pat it sounds like you would enjoy the bbq at my hosue let me know if you're ever in NY.

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DEAL!!! :hungry::carouse:

ok so no one has asked and i guess i will, being that the younger rattlesnakes have just as much venom as the full grown ones. would any seep into the vodka and could it kill you?

if so this guy could be up on murder charges

In the REAL stuff, that is the point, the venom actually mixes with the alchohol, not like going into your blood stream, but known to cause hallucinations (sp?), and a "out of body" experience.

http://www.taiwanfun.com/central/tai...ting_Snake.htm


the blood is also an aphrodisiac (sp again)

If they were putting kittens into the bottle instead, would it be disgusting then?
I don't like it, and I do think it's rather disgusting to have a dead snake floating in my liquor.
I don't want a roach in it either. It's nasty.
If the critter was killed humanely, thenI wouldn't object to it being MADE, but I can still think it's gross. How does he "clean" the snake prior? Can feces leak out into the alcohol? *shudders*
It's a waste of alcohol to me.

i've had alligator tail in florida once.. it was actually really good.

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ok so no one has asked and i guess i will, being that the younger rattlesnakes have just as much venom as the full grown ones. would any seep into the vodka and could it kill you?

if so this guy could be up on murder charges

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A young rattlesnake does not have as much venum as an adult. It is an old wives tale that the younger ones are more deadly. Actually Juveniles have less than 70 milligrams of venom while adults have 492 milligrams to 666 milligrams. It takes roughly 100 milligrams to be classified as a lethal does to an adult human. The big factor is adults have more control of their vemom. They also realize that if they use all their vemon on prey they can not eat, like a human, they will not eat until they replenish it. While a juvenile does not have as much control and is more prone to panic when it thinks it will be stepped on and shoots all its venom at once. :D

Reference:
Phil Purser 2008 Busted "Find the truth behind eight common snake myths" printed in 2008 Annual Reptiles USA
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They eat bull testicles in Spain and hagus in Scotland. Different strokes for different folks; culture is all about being different! :)

Whether or not you have an open mind to appreciate and understand it is something completely different.

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^ i like this. plain and simple, reasonable and true.. i totally agree. its like us americans to not appreciate culture, which is crazy to me! so this is my favorite thing said here. :)

And for the record, any amount of anything you put in your mouth will have really gross things in it. Microscopic pieces of feces, human flesh, blood, urine, etc...

It is part of life, and if you choose to ignore it, well... ignorance is bliss, right?

Read Fast Food Nation... It's a fascinating read!!!

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Originally Posted by Gloryhound

They also eat dogs in China, but while they belong in what we would call the dog family here they are different than what we would think of as a family pet type dog!

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yeah they eat dogs in china. some restaurants across our school in china,they actually keep the fish alive inside the restrooms!!! outside our school, they catch all the cats and they skin it and they boil them. never tried it though. but its really cheap. considering they're stray cats. lol.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I'm sorry, but I take offense to the fact that you call it disgusting.

In Chinese Culture, people do that with snakes in wine.

It is considered a medicine.

It may not be appealing to you, but it is a part of a long standing culture, and should not be judged like that.

Granted, this rancher may not be Chinese, but still... Judge not lest ye be judged.

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No im not saying that the logic of venom being used as medication. Some of my family members use it as well. Im saying that they are killing rattlesnakes and putting them in vodka is disgusting. Why would they kill it when instead they could just extract the venom from it.

And you miss the point entirely.

Nevermind.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

And for the record, any amount of anything you put in your mouth will have really gross things in it. Microscopic pieces of feces, human flesh, blood, urine, etc...

It is part of life, and if you choose to ignore it, well... ignorance is bliss, right?

Read Fast Food Nation... It's a fascinating read!!!

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Thanks Heather! I'm never going to eat again. This beef jerky I have here at my desk is useless now.

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Thanks Heather! I'm never going to eat again. This beef jerky I have here at my desk is useless now.

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Hey, any time :) From a scientist to you!! ;)

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And you miss the point entirely.

Nevermind.

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How did I miss the point I understand what your saying 100%. I just find that its cruel to drown a snake in an alcoholic beverage. I completely understand the use of venom as medication. I just think it should be done in a more humane way (extracting the venom and just putting it in the drink). By no means am I saying that using snake venom is disgusting. Because snake venom and vodka has to be a great mix as pat said;) And I'm not joking.

The show on Travel channel with Andrew Zimmerman.... the dishes that man has tried. Wow. They had a drink with a pickeled gecko in it....braver then I could be.

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How did I miss the point I understand what your saying 100%. I just find that its cruel to drown a snake in an alcoholic beverage. I completely understand the use of venom as medication. I just think it should be done in a more humane way (extracting the venom and just putting it in the drink). By no means am I saying that using snake venom is disgusting. Because snake venom and vodka has to be a great mix as pat said;) And I'm not joking.

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Who said it was drowned? They are killed before placed in the alcohol from what I understand. I think you are assuming a bit too much about the way things are done.

I know how it is done in China, and they dispatch of the snake before putting it into the alcohol....

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

And for the record, any amount of anything you put in your mouth will have really gross things in it. Microscopic pieces of feces, human flesh, blood, urine, etc...

It is part of life, and if you choose to ignore it, well... ignorance is bliss, right?

Read Fast Food Nation... It's a fascinating read!!!

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Pssh I just watched that movies about 2 weeks ago. Very good movie and probably an equally good book. Who needs reading?:rofl::gj:

While it is not appealing to ME (snails and frog legs are not either and I am French :rolleyes:), it does not offend me!

What is disgusting for one might not be for another, different cultures have different sensibilities and ways to do things.

Some animals are sacred in some part of the world while in other cultures they end-up on the dinner table.

I think it is important to be open and understand other cultures without judging because they do thing a little differently, if the animal was raised for that purpose and euthanized humanely who are we to judge.

I ate farm raised alligator before, is it disgusting? I guess so to some people somewhere!

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I ate farm raised alligator before, is it disgusting? I guess so to some people somewhere!

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MWAHAHAHAHA...

Something I am dying to try. Really.

Florida, here we come!!

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MWAHAHAHAHA...
Something I am dying to try. Really.
Florida, here we come!!

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It was in a cajun restaurant and I could not believe how good it was, you got to try it! :gj:

My only thought is that it was bottled by peyote pete, or something like that, and he doesn't sound very asian to me or part of that culture and he didn't have a liquor license...
Cultural diversity and acceptance (or at least tolerance) is very important to me. But someone doing something without the ritual and culture behind it seems like a fake action and born with opportunistic and capitalistic ideology.
My two cents.....

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Cultural diversity and acceptance (or at least tolerance) is very important to me. But someone doing something without the ritual and culture behind it seems like a fake action and born with opportunistic and capitalistic ideology.
My two cents.....

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I agree completely. I do not claim that this guy has any good reason for doing what he was doing, but the practice itself is borne of a cultural practice, thus needed to be addressed.

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They have bull testicles here in Cali, J. F. Mc Klintocks serves em, quite tasty too.

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Mmm...oysters.

Fanciest place I've seen that serves them thar mountain oyters: Mountain Oyster Club in Tucson