JnJ Reptiles

What do you guys think about JnJ Reptiles? Are they trustworthy? And are their animals good quality?

JnJ has a good reputation - however - they aren't breeders - they are brokers. So I guess their "quality" would depend on where they are getting the particular animal from.

And if you don't mind buying from brokers - a lot of people don't approve of them.

That aside - I've only looked at their site a few times and I haven't really seen a whole lot above "average" looking.

I could be wrong, but I believe they do produce some of their own animals.

They're honest. Ask the questions you need to in order to be satisfied. If you get the answers that make you happy, I'm sure you'll be pleased with them. If you don't get the answers you need, move on, there are lots of other suppliers.

I would HIGHLY recommend avoiding ed clark however. He's a liar.

Check them, either or both, out on fauna.

i have ordered from them 2 times happy as could be with both orders first was a dimondX carpet python then the next was 3 balls all great feeders and sexy snakes

I bought my pinstripe from them. He has a nice reduced looking pattern, was 100% healthy and eating. I've had him about 8 months and hes packing on the grams and switched to f/t no problem. So my experience with them is a good one. I'd buy again from them.

We have purchased more than a dozen Ball Pythons from Josh @ J&J Reptiles over the past year or so. Josh has been great to deal with and we have been very pleased with the quality of his animals and his service. :gj:

I have purchased CH females from JnJ last year and I am perfectly happy with my purchase.

Can I just ask, does it bother anyone else that their 'motto' is 'specializing in high quality CB reptiles' when that doesn't seem to be their specialty at all??

This would be the primary reason I've never hit them up. That said, look them up on fauna and go with your gut.

Cheers,
Kat

My ball came from them, and the service was good. They spoke with me on the phone and e-mails, snake was delivered on time and in good condition. She's doing great now and gaining weight. Great personality, never had a problem with her.

I'd definitely do business with them again. :gj:

Kat- I don't know what you mean about their motto not being truthful.

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

Can I just ask, does it bother anyone else that their 'motto' is 'specializing in high quality CB reptiles' when that doesn't seem to be their specialty at all??

This would be the primary reason I've never hit them up. That said, look them up on fauna and go with your gut.

Cheers,
Kat

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Yes it does...Tosha refers to them as "brokers" but in my book they are flippers...How can you specialize in high quality CB reptiles when you don't breed your animals - Your buying other breeders animals wholesale...I've always been fascinated why people would buy from flippers...Your paying more by going thru a flipper (some people may call them middle men) and IMO your not getting a "high quality" animal...I'm curious about flippers QT practises too...How can you have a good QT procedure when your constantly bringing in other breeders animals to flip? Flippers [stink] in my book but that's just me...:D
BT

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Yes it does...Tosha refers to them as "brokers" but in my book they are flippers...How can you specialize in high quality CB reptiles when you don't breed your animals - Your buying other breeders animals wholesale...I've always been fascinated why people would buy from flippers...Your paying more by going thru a flipper (some people may call them middle men) and IMO your not getting a "high quality" animal...I'm curious about flippers QT practises too...How can you have a good QT procedure when your constantly bringing in other breeders animals to flip? Flippers [stink] in my book but that's just me...:D
BT

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"Not getting a high quality animal"? Have you bought from them to draw on experiences? Lets say I bought a killer bp from Adam @ 8ballpythons, but turned around and sold it to someone else, is the animal all of a sudden not high quality? Of course not, its still the same animal. Your whole premise that because they didn't breed them they can't be high quality is, to be honest, ridiculous.

I have had an actual transaction with them, and the animal I got is thriving, 100% healthy, and is just as high of a quality pinstripe of any other one I've seen.

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Originally Posted by blueapplepaste

"Not getting a high quality animal"? Have you bought from them to draw on experiences? Lets say I bought a killer bp from Adam @ 8ballpythons, but turned around and sold it to someone else, is the animal all of a sudden not high quality? Of course not, its still the same animal. Your whole premise that because they didn't breed them they can't be high quality is, to be honest, ridiculous.

I have had an actual transaction with them, and the animal I got is thriving, 100% healthy, and is just as high of a quality pinstripe of any other one I've seen.

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Have I bought from them? Nope and never will - Just like I won't buy from Ed Clark, Alan Belcher (Big Daddy's Wholesale), ect...It's because I don't buy from flippers, brokers, middle men or whatever you wish to call them...I buy from actual breeders who produce their own animals...You know - Selectively bred for quality not mass produced to be wholesaled...Mass producing to wholesale is NOT producing quality animals IMO but you may think different...How about this - Maybe they should change the whole "Specializing in high quality CB reptiles" to "Specializing in flipping someone else's high quality CB reptiles"...:O...Glad your Pin is doing good but hate to hear you support flippers...Just my two cents...
BT

While I have never had business with them I have to add that people who specialize in finding things do have their uses. If you are looking for a particular morph and have certain requirements and are willing to spend more they can do the foot work for you as long as they know the product and business. Also they can sometimes get you a deal if they are high enough volume dealers that they get discounts and choose to pass them along. Additionally they have probably dealt with more breeders than most of the rest of us and probably understand what "John Smith" breeder is truely saying when he says this snake is a 9 on the scale of 1 to 10. One breeders 9 may not stack up next to another breeders 5!

With this said if they are actually providing the above services and actually inspecting the product and running breeders down for you then they may very well be worth dealing with.

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You know - Selectively bred for quality not mass produced to be wholesaled

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Brian Produces over 30,000 snakes a year right? Do you think he sells everyone of them to people looking just for one animal? NO. He wholesales a lot. I would say he has some awesome animals.

I do not get some people needing to put down another company to try to get ahead. I seen the called "flippers" and many other names. It is a simple as brokering the animals.

WHO CARES. If the person is honest and the animals are healthy what does it matter.

I breed and I broker. I have some breeders that want me to sell their animals. It is easier for them they say. And I do not mind doing that at all for certain people.

To say all brokers are bad is being foolish. I know people that breed and offer down right bad animals. Rip people off and so forth. I know brokers the same way but there also great brokers and breeders.

I have also bred animals for my customers as they could not pick them up for a few months. I will be getting the babies. I guess that is bad..........

Just becuase the animal was not bred by the person selling it does not mean it is not a great animal. I have bought off Brian and Lori. I have sold them animals. Are they bad animals? NO not at all.

I just do not get the put downs that some throw around. There are bad breeders and bad brokers. And to tell you the truth............. You would be suprized of the people that have brokered in the past or still do. But no need to name names so they can be shot down for no reason.

J&J has always been honest with me and when I ask him about an animal he has always given me all the info he has. what more can you ask for?

Broker does not = bad animals
Breeder does not = great animals

Use your head and look at the animals. Quality is quality.

Save me your BS Gary...You want to flip then flip...I never said J&J were "bad guys"...Kat ask a question and I gave my opinion...I said and I'll say it again...I buy from breeders not flippers...You want to name drop - Give me a break...You don't think I don't have racks full of animals from Brian - Don't act like Brian's operation is the norm...I just don't buy wholesale lots from Brian to flip...Why pay you extra coin when I could go straight to the cow...As common as BP morphs are and as many are available I ain't supporting a flipper...I don't care how honest some "broker" he is still a broker...You don't like my opinion tuff [turkey]....
BT

well said gary,it's refreshing to see some people "think outside of the bun".

I'm with BT on this one... Its a personal decison who you buy from and he has good reasoning why he chooses not to buy from people who flip. I agree that there are so many other breeders out there who have quality animals for sale so why mess with a middle man? I dont have anything against people who flip... J&J may be great people with great animals for sale (coming from BHB) but its your personal decision who your money goes to....

For example I think its wrong to stuff a snake every week just to get it to breeding weight in a yr or 2... for that reason I wont purchase from anyone who openly states that they breed their snakes young (females are my main concern)... Doesnt mean they dont have quality animals or arnt great people I just personally disagree with their care/breeding methods so I'm not going to support their projects... Its the same situation with BT and flippers.

If your cool with flippers and cool with people who stuff their snakes so they can breed early then buy from em but dont hate the people who choose not to for good reasons.

BT / KAT

Where do I start....

Our banner: we carry a large variety of the highest quality c.b animals, from boas, to balls, carpets, and colubrids. To be honest we buy from some of the best breeders around so can offer the best quality animals. We do sell c.h specials, and odd ball imports, and they have become a big part of our business, as we have one of the best varieties of specials around.

95% of our animals come from 1 breeder/supplier, and he is one of the best in the county. The animals he doesn't produce, he buys from other breeders, such as Brian. Flippers, do not suck, there are some less than honest people who resell animals, but that is why you do your research. Just like there are plenty of less than honest breeders.
When my animals come from Ian G, I know I am getting the BEST quality around, at the best price.

As for paying more from us, I doubt you will find prices much better than ours, we buy $10,000 - $20,000 worth of animals per order, when you buy that kind of order prices are a lot better than 1 animal from a breeder. You can buy 1 corn snake for $25 from a breeder, or I can buy 100 from the same breeder for $8, and sell it for a better price than they would.

This year we have balls and boas breeding, we have 3 clutches of ball eggs from a bumble bee bee or new line cinny male (used them both) and 3 more on the way. We have a albino x calico boa litter due around May 14-20 too.

So when my clients produce a clutch of butters from a male they bought from a private breeder, and dont want to deal with selling them out 1 at a time, and we buy them all, the quality doesn't drop, it is the same snake just at a better price, and we have more time to put into them as we do this full time.

Say what you want but know what you are talking about first.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

BT / KAT

Where do I start....

Our banner: we carry a large variety of the highest quality c.b animals, from boas, to balls, carpets, and colubrids. To be honest we buy from some of the best breeders around so can offer the best quality animals. We do sell c.h specials, and odd ball imports, and they have become a big part of our business, as we have one of the best varieties of specials around.

95% of our animals come from 1 breeder/supplier, and he is one of the best in the county. The animals he doesn't produce, he buys from other breeders, such as Brian. Flippers, do not suck, there are some less than honest people who resell animals, but that is why you do your research. Just like there are plenty of less than honest breeders.
When my animals come from Ian G, I know I am getting the BEST quality around, at the best price.

As for paying more from us, I doubt you will find prices much better than ours, we buy $10,000 - $20,000 worth of animals per order, when you buy that kind of order prices are a lot better than 1 animal from a breeder. You can buy 1 corn snake for $25 from a breeder, or I can buy 100 from the same breeder for $8, and sell it for a better price than they would.

This year we have balls and boas breeding, we have 3 clutches of ball eggs from a bumble bee bee or new line cinny male (used them both) and 3 more on the way. We have a albino x calico boa litter due around May 14-20 too.

So when my clients produce a clutch of butters from a male they bought from a private breeder, and dont want to deal with selling them out 1 at a time, and we buy them all, the quality doesn't drop, it is the same snake just at a better price, and we have more time to put into them as we do this full time.

Say what you want but know what you are talking about first.

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I think that was a very professional post right there. :gj: Id do business with ya!

Thank you!

It would be our pleasure.

+1 for JnJ. I have bought both CB and WC snakes from Him and have had great experiences with them. I have had E-mail and some Long phone conversations with him and he has always taken the amount of time that was needed to satisfy my concerns and questions.

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Save me your BS Gary...You want to flip then flip...I never said J&J were "bad guys"...Kat ask a question and I gave my opinion...I said and I'll say it again...I buy from breeders not flippers...You want to name drop - Give me a break...You don't think I don't have racks full of animals from Brian - Don't act like Brian's operation is the norm...I just don't buy wholesale lots from Brian to flip...Why pay you extra coin when I could go straight to the cow...As common as BP morphs are and as many are available I ain't supporting a flipper...I don't care how honest some "broker" he is still a broker...You don't like my opinion tuff [turkey]...
BT

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Name drop? you were asked twice. You said brokers do not have quality animals. Or as good of quality as a breeder. You were asked about 8Ball and I brought up Brianselling their animals and people reselling them.

Not all people that breed want to do the selling end of the hobby they breed sell to a business and that is that. ALOT of people do this. But does that make their animals bad or worse then say a larger breeders animals? NO.

I am sorry you feel the need to attack. I gave my opinion just as you have given yours.

Next time one of my customers bring me a clutch I will say sorry BT said it is bad to broker you will just have to keep them. Maybe that will work for them.

My point was no need to name call over something. I do not buy from people that sell Voids. My choice. I think that is a little different then this but then as somethings simular.

There is a guy in Michigan. He breeds and produces over 1200 colubrids. Mainly corns and Kings. He does not like the show or the selling part of the hobby. Sometimes I can see why. But he trades the babies off to get other breeders he likes. Nothing wrong with the people that received them animals to sell them.

I see this as a way to put down a company just becuase they resell.

Oh and Name dropping. I only brought up people you would know. lol. Sorry I upset you.


JNJ

Great post.........

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

I'm with BT on this one... Its a personal decison who you buy from and he has good reasoning why he chooses not to buy from people who flip. I agree that there are so many other breeders out there who have quality animals for sale so why mess with a middle man? I dont have anything against people who flip... J&J may be great people with great animals for sale (coming from BHB) but its your personal decision who your money goes to....

For example I think its wrong to stuff a snake every week just to get it to breeding weight in a yr or 2... for that reason I wont purchase from anyone who openly states that they breed their snakes young (females are my main concern)... Doesnt mean they dont have quality animals or arnt great people I just personally disagree with their care/breeding methods so I'm not going to support their projects... Its the same situation with BT and flippers.

If your cool with flippers and cool with people who stuff their snakes so they can breed early then buy from em but dont hate the people who choose not to for good reasons.

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Not hating on him. He can choose to buy from who ever he likes. But comments like

Brokers do not have quality animals and ect.....

That is wrong and attacking. Not buying from them cool. Who cares. But attacking someone for something that is not hurting anything is not cool IMO.

Quality is Quality. Attitude is Attitude.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

BT / KAT

Where do I start....

Our banner: we carry a large variety of the highest quality c.b animals, from boas, to balls, carpets, and colubrids. To be honest we buy from some of the best breeders around so can offer the best quality animals. We do sell c.h specials, and odd ball imports, and they have become a big part of our business, as we have one of the best varieties of specials around.

95% of our animals come from 1 breeder/supplier, and he is one of the best in the county. The animals he doesn't produce, he buys from other breeders, such as Brian. Flippers, do not suck, there are some less than honest people who resell animals, but that is why you do your research. Just like there are plenty of less than honest breeders.
When my animals come from Ian G, I know I am getting the BEST quality around, at the best price.

As for paying more from us, I doubt you will find prices much better than ours, we buy $10,000 - $20,000 worth of animals per order, when you buy that kind of order prices are a lot better than 1 animal from a breeder. You can buy 1 corn snake for $25 from a breeder, or I can buy 100 from the same breeder for $8, and sell it for a better price than they would.

This year we have balls and boas breeding, we have 3 clutches of ball eggs from a bumble bee bee or new line cinny male (used them both) and 3 more on the way. We have a albino x calico boa litter due around May 14-20 too.

So when my clients produce a clutch of butters from a male they bought from a private breeder, and dont want to deal with selling them out 1 at a time, and we buy them all, the quality doesn't drop, it is the same snake just at a better price, and we have more time to put into them as we do this full time.

Say what you want but know what you are talking about first.

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One of these days I'll buy from you. :)

Easy Now, I respect BT's opinion, but we are not voicing the same concerns here. My point was simply that around half of what I've seen posted from you guys has been CH or import.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=575167

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579027

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579043

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=586008

I'm not trying to put you or your business down, I've heard nothing but good things about your customer service. However, to me, if such a large chunk of your market is not CB, it just doesn't click to represent it as being your specialty. I'm a live and let live kind of girl and I have no issues with how you choose to run your business, (the fact that you are still in business says volumes about you in a good way). I just think your subtext is a bit misleading, hence my reluctance to deal with you in the past.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Cheers,
Kat

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

Easy Now, I respect BT's opinion, but we are not voicing the same concerns here. My point was simply that around half of what I've seen posted from you guys has been CH or import.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=575167

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579027

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579043

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=586008

I'm not trying to put you or your business down, I've heard nothing but good things about your customer service. However, to me, if such a large chunk of your market is not CB, it just doesn't click to represent it as being your specialty. I'm a live and let live kind of girl and I have no issues with how you choose to run your business, (the fact that you are still in business says volumes about you in a good way). I just think your subtext is a bit misleading, hence my reluctance to deal with you in the past.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Cheers,
Kat

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I see where you are coming from, up until the last 6 months or so we did 99% c.b. (Other than c.h in the spring and the w.c yellow belly here or there)

In the last 6 months we have been able to get some really unique c.h and imported special animals along with new lines of existing morphs. We have not changed our logo yet as the c.h specialties have just started taking off the last few months. Before that we did sell almost exclusively c.b.

The way the market is changing we are selling odd balls 10 to 1 over c.b, so maybe a logo change will be in order shortly. Maybe :
J&J REPTILES
Specializing in high quality c.b and unique imported reptiles. ????

Thanks

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

J&J REPTILES
Specializing in high quality c.b and unique imported reptiles.

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I actually think that has a nice ring to it.:D:gj:

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actually think that has a nice ring to it.

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Ditto. and I appreciate you taking the time and being open to discuss these concerns. It says a lot for your character.

Cheers,
Kat

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

Ditto. and I appreciate you taking the time and being open to discuss these concerns. It says a lot for your character.

Cheers,
Kat

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Not a problem, we prefer to be open about our business, if we can help 1 person be successful by explaining what has/hasn't worked for us, then our job is done.

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Have I bought from them? Nope and never will - Just like I won't buy from Ed Clark, Alan Belcher (Big Daddy's Wholesale), ect...It's because I don't buy from flippers, brokers, middle men or whatever you wish to call them...I buy from actual breeders who produce their own animals...You know - Selectively bred for quality not mass produced to be wholesaled...Mass producing to wholesale is NOT producing quality animals IMO but you may think different...How about this - Maybe they should change the whole "Specializing in high quality CB reptiles" to "Specializing in flipping someone else's high quality CB reptiles"...:O...Glad your Pin is doing good but hate to hear you support flippers...Just my two cents...
BT

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If you don't want to buy from "flippers" then that's fine. But to make blanket statements that mass producing is not quality is foolish. If someone has 50 extremely high quality animals, then they're 50 high quality animals. Period. As another poster stated; quality is quality. Whether its one animal or a million. There are tons of actual "breeders" who produce nothing but crap, and who I wouldn't go near their animals with a 10 foot stick. And for JnJ, in my experience, they sell high quality animals.

I apologize to JnJ for hi-jacking their thread...I've started a new thread in the QT room - By all means let's continue...
BT

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Originally Posted by BT41042

I apologize to JnJ for hi-jacking their thread...I've started a new thread in the QT room - By all means let's continue...
BT

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BT real quick what is the QT room? I can not find it.

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Originally Posted by Gary Orner

BT real quick what is the QT room? I can not find it.

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Its a sub-forum of off topics.If you contact a Admin they can give you access to it :gj:

Hey bt, do you purchase gasoline from a service station? Do you buy groceries at a supermarket? If you smoke, where do you get your cancer sticks? Clothing, there's a good one. Do you wear any? If so where does it come from?

Can you say hypocrite

There are a LOT of brokers out there. I've watched J&J go from nothing to a fair sized operation, making a few mistakes but taking care of them honestly and responsibly.

I haven't done business with them, but if they want to broker some cool Hypo FWCs, I would have NO problem trying to work something out. If they had something I wanted, I'd have NO problem sending them my money.

People who talk out both sides of their mouths often irritate me. Sort of like flies and mosquitos. However, just like flies and mosquitos, a few swats is generally all it takes to remove the problem.

Swat Swat Swat

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Originally Posted by Gary Orner

BT real quick what is the QT room? I can not find it.

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http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=43780

I haven't had the pleasure of purchasing anything from J&J YET but I spent a good amount of time at his table at our local reptile show and I must say all his snakes wc, ch, cbb were ALL great looking animals that appeared well taken of and healthy. To top it all off Josh is a great guy also. I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him at all.

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Originally Posted by Enve

I haven't had the pleasure of purchasing anything from J&J YET but I spent a good amount of time at his table at our local reptile show and I must say all his snakes wc, ch, cbb were ALL great looking animals that appeared well taken of and healthy. To top it all off Josh is a great guy also. I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him at all.

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I second that. I spent a decent amount of time "browsing" at their table at the Manchester show and everyone there was great. I didn't end up buying anything, but their knowledge and care of their animals shined through. Flipper, broker whatever people want to call them they still offer quality stock.

Your comparing apples to oranges...We're talking buying animals are we not? Just like when I buy a dog - I don't go to a pet store I go to the breeder...If you want to deal with a broker it ain't skin off my teeth but I won't...How am I talking out of both sides of my mouth Wes? Glad I could irritate you...LOL...Swat on...
BT

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Hey bt, do you purchase gasoline from a service station? Do you buy groceries at a supermarket? If you smoke, where do you get your cancer sticks? Clothing, there's a good one. Do you wear any? If so where does it come from?

Can you say hypocrite

There are a LOT of brokers out there. I've watched J&J go from nothing to a fair sized operation, making a few mistakes but taking care of them honestly and responsibly.

I haven't done business with them, but if they want to broker some cool Hypo FWCs, I would have NO problem trying to work something out. If they had something I wanted, I'd have NO problem sending them my money.

People who talk out both sides of their mouths often irritate me. Sort of like flies and mosquitos. However, just like flies and mosquitos, a few swats is generally all it takes to remove the problem.

Swat Swat Swat

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Your comparing apples to oranges...We're talking buying animals are we not? Just like when I buy a dog - I don't go to a pet store I go to the breeder...If you want to deal with a broker it ain't skin off my teeth but I won't...How am I talking out of both sides of my mouth Wes? Glad I could irritate you...LOL...Swat on...
BT

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OK guys. Take it to the thread you started in the Quarantine room. If you have something to say about J&J, then feel free to do that in this inquiry thread. If it's not related, then don't turn it into a BOI thread.
Thanks.

JnJ reptiles sells good quality animals, 1 year ago I bought a het albino male, and a CB Adult Female. The het albino has never missed a meal, it has never once gone off feed, Ive never had a problem with either of the snakes.

I took stool samples from both snakes to a vet and were paracite free. I have picture documentation of my het albino. Josh is one of the only people I know of in this business that answers his phone. You can call him and he will answer your questions. I will order from jnjreptiles again in the future.

BT from rebelreptiles, you are on this site representing your own company, I dont think it is wise to trash talk about people, no matter how right you think you are, this is America and you have the right to your opinion, but some things are better left unsaid.
All I have to say is after seeing your posts in this thread I will never give you my business....

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Originally Posted by Gloryhound

While I have never had business with them I have to add that people who specialize in finding things do have their uses. If you are looking for a particular morph and have certain requirements and are willing to spend more they can do the foot work for you as long as they know the product and business. Also they can sometimes get you a deal if they are high enough volume dealers that they get discounts and choose to pass them along. Additionally they have probably dealt with more breeders than most of the rest of us and probably understand what "John Smith" breeder is truely saying when he says this snake is a 9 on the scale of 1 to 10. One breeders 9 may not stack up next to another breeders 5!

With this said if they are actually providing the above services and actually inspecting the product and running breeders down for you then they may very well be worth dealing with.

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I just wanted to add that since the above quoted post we have made a purchase from J&J and the transaction was flawless, the customer support good, and the big boy we got has been a great animal. I would not hesitate to buy from him again if I find something I like at a price I am willing to pay!

I will be going to the Portland ME show at the end of the month and I really look forward to seeing the J&J guys there. I've spoken with Josh on the phone and seen the posts which he has put up here and I believe that he is a good businessman. I'll let you guys know if I do wind up picking anything up from them at the show!

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Originally Posted by anendeloflorien

I will be going to the Portland ME show at the end of the month and I really look forward to seeing the J&J guys there. I've spoken with Josh on the phone and seen the posts which he has put up here and I believe that he is a good businessman. I'll let you guys know if I do wind up picking anything up from them at the show!

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Just a little follow up to that post. I did purchase an extremely nice little pastel female from them at the Portland show. She's absolutely beautiful, health and eating great, plus the price was not to be beat. Can't wait to see you guys in Manchester next month!

I have purchased animals from JNJ twice now, and with 100% Confidence i can say that they are GREAT people to do business with.

Not only do they keep in contact throughout the sale, but they help you out AFTERWARDS too.

Ive had a few questions here and there about the critters ive gotten from them, and they have always been right there to answer my questions.

Ill buy from private breeders ( many whom im great friends with!), the big guys ( some, not all) and ill buy from Hobbyists and People like Josh and Jen. I buy from HONEST people who care enough about their customers to be on top of things, and send you a nice, healthy snake.
I think its the service and the animals that count.... not necessarily how they do business * so long as they are honest people!*

Off the top of my head, I believe I have purchased around 90 snakes from Josh and Jen.

My transactions were problem free.