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  • 03-24-2008, 11:53 PM
    talon04
    car help
    Guys I own a 99 Pontiac Firebird 3.8L Any car guys out there can ya help me out? It won't start. Ran fine all day and I go to start it and it wont even flash the gauges when I try to turn the key. Dome lights and door chime goes off and Bat is good. I'm betting its the security system just need some help.
  • 03-24-2008, 11:54 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: car help
    Maybe your Ignition went out?
  • 03-24-2008, 11:57 PM
    joepythons
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patthesnakeman View Post
    Maybe your Ignition went out?

    Sounds like the tumblers are not turning like they should
  • 03-25-2008, 12:00 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    Its a key with the chip in it Turns all the way to the start position just no power it seems when I try to crank it. I hope its something simple and I can do it myself if not....good thing I had to move back in with my mom....Tows and labor are expensive in a small town.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:01 AM
    claytonfaulkner
    Re: car help
    how to you know the batt is good? check the connections around the batt
  • 03-25-2008, 12:02 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: car help
    Right, Im thinking either your ignition, becuase you say you have the dome, and door chime, so obiviously you are getting power to the car.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:04 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by claytonfaulkner View Post
    how to you know the batt is good? check the connections around the batt

    Did that first thing I had a strange incident few mornings ago car started and the starter stayed on even when key was removed and in off position. I'm figuring its the ignition or security system. No problems since that morning till today.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:04 AM
    joepythons
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talon04 View Post
    Its a key with the chip in it Turns all the way to the start position just no power it seems when I try to crank it. I hope its something simple and I can do it myself if not....good thing I had to move back in with my mom....Tows and labor are expensive in a small town.

    Sometimes over a time of putting the key in and out they get "filed down".Do you have another set of keys to try?
  • 03-25-2008, 12:06 AM
    joepythons
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talon04 View Post
    Did that first thing I had a strange incident few mornings ago car started and the starter stayed on even when key was removed and in off position. I'm figuring its the ignition or security system. No problems since that morning till today.

    I have never heard of a security system making the starter stay on.It kills it when you try to steal it ;).
  • 03-25-2008, 12:18 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    I know it kills it but I'm leaning more toward an Ignition problem then a Security issue with that morning in mind. The security light would be on if it was that system and its not. This month seems to suck in general for me.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:22 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: car help
    If its a manual, bump start it, and if it starts, its def your ignition.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:25 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    It is a manual but it wont it acts like to motor has no power as no circuit from the key to the ignition system. Lights, and locks work, alarm and Horn. No bad fuses that I can tell. But I'm posting on my car site as well hopefully my F-body guys can save me!
  • 03-25-2008, 12:26 AM
    joepythons
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patthesnakeman View Post
    If its a manual, bump start it, and if it starts, its def your ignition.

    There you go :gj:
  • 03-25-2008, 12:27 AM
    joepythons
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talon04 View Post
    It is a manual but it wont it acts like to motor has no power as no circuit from the key to the ignition system. Lights, and locks work, alarm and Horn. No bad fuses that I can tell. But I'm posting on my car site as well hopefully my F-body guys can save me!

    First thing in the morning start looking for that ignition part then ;)
  • 03-25-2008, 12:32 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: car help
    Hell, you might even have a bad wire close to your Loom, I suspect its prolly before the loom if all the lights and stuff work.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:45 AM
    2kdime
    Re: car help
    When you turn the key does ANYTHING happen? Any clicks from the starter or anything? With the problem the other day with your starter running and running. That may be something to check out.

    And if its not that. Then like everyone else I'd put CASH MONEY on it being the ignition switch.

    If you have trouble believing anybody. Have your battery tested. Then have your starter tested. Both of these can be pulled off and taken to your local auto parts stores to be tested.

    But ill tell ya right now, its either the starter, or the ignition switch.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:50 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    When you turn the key does ANYTHING happen? Any clicks from the starter or anything? With the problem the other day with your starter running and running. That may be something to check out.

    And if its not that. Then like everyone else I'd put CASH MONEY on it being the ignition switch.

    If you have trouble believing anybody. Have your battery tested. Then have your starter tested. Both of these can be pulled off and taken to your local auto parts stores to be tested.

    But ill tell ya right now, its either the starter, or the ignition switch.

    Nothing happens when the key is turned. The stereo doesn't come on nothing all the lights work including the headlights. When the key is in start position brakes are still locked but wheel is not.
  • 03-25-2008, 12:51 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    When you turn the key does ANYTHING happen? Any clicks from the starter or anything? With the problem the other day with your starter running and running. That may be something to check out.

    And if its not that. Then like everyone else I'd put CASH MONEY on it being the ignition switch.

    If you have trouble believing anybody. Have your battery tested. Then have your starter tested. Both of these can be pulled off and taken to your local auto parts stores to be tested.

    But ill tell ya right now, its either the starter, or the ignition switch.

    I doubt its his starter, cause he would get dashboard lights.
  • 03-25-2008, 02:43 AM
    RGreen454ss
    Re: car help
    Check for spark and fuel. Pull the air filter and see if the injectors are spraying when it is trying to start. Pull aNeed to check for spark and fuel. Pull the air filter and see if the injectors are spraying when it is trying to start. Pull a plug and put the wire on it and let it rest on ground portion of the block (avoid other wires and sensors). Crank the engine and see if you are getting a nice spark.

    Low fuel could be a bad filter, when was it changed last?

    Spark could be coil, distributor, or ignition module. plug and put the wire on it and let it rest on ground portion of the block (avoid other wires and sensors). Crank the engine and see if you are getting a nice spark.

    Spark could be coil, distributor, or ignition module.
  • 03-25-2008, 09:27 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RGreen454ss View Post
    Check for spark and fuel. Pull the air filter and see if the injectors are spraying when it is trying to start. Pull aNeed to check for spark and fuel. Pull the air filter and see if the injectors are spraying when it is trying to start. Pull a plug and put the wire on it and let it rest on ground portion of the block (avoid other wires and sensors). Crank the engine and see if you are getting a nice spark.

    Low fuel could be a bad filter, when was it changed last?

    Spark could be coil, distributor, or ignition module. plug and put the wire on it and let it rest on ground portion of the block (avoid other wires and sensors). Crank the engine and see if you are getting a nice spark.

    Spark could be coil, distributor, or ignition module.

    No need to check them as nothing happens when the key is turned normally just putting the key in causes all the gauges and warning light on the dash to flash as well as the fuel pump to kick on nothing of the sort happening here, I'm guessing that pat is right and I've got a loose wire or the ignition switch went out.
  • 03-25-2008, 09:33 AM
    Texas Dan
    Re: car help
    Maybe there's a problem between the seat and the stearing wheel?
  • 03-25-2008, 09:41 AM
    talon04
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skoalbasher View Post
    Maybe there's a problem between the seat and the stearing wheel?

    Ha ha funny.
  • 03-26-2008, 08:20 PM
    Warm-blooded
    Re: car help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skoalbasher View Post
    Maybe there's a problem between the seat and the stearing wheel?

    Or maybe a loose nut behind the wheel...jk

    do you get no power what so ever? Also, if it ran fine in normal weather and won't now and now it also happens to be wet or rainy outside, it could be a cracked distributor. Finally, I would check you fuses, see if anythings blown out, as well as use a test light and/or multimeter to check for shorts.

    If you here a click-buzz when you move the key forward, it is probably something with the starting system, of which a battery, alternator, or starter could be at fault. Also, check the terminals of your battery, for corrosion and contact issues, I have cars not start over this.
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