a few cross predictions

I am really unfamiliar with the different hets/etc in ball python genetics, so help would be greatly appreciated....my gf and I have bred normals and were contemplating getting into the designer guys...so heres a few of our possibilities/choices.

pastel female x male spider = i think a bumblebee, correct?

normal male x female spider= is it one half normal/one half spider

mojave male x pastel female=??

albino male x pastel female=?

albino male x spider female=??

Appreciate it again...any other suggestions would be great.

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Originally Posted by pilot511

I am really unfamiliar with the different hets/etc in ball python genetics, so help would be greatly appreciated....my gf and I have bred normals and were contemplating getting into the designer guys...so heres a few of our possibilities/choices.

pastel female x male spider = i think a bumblebee, correct?

Right - 25% bumblebee

normal male x female spider= is it one half normal/one half spider

Right

mojave male x pastel female=??

25% Pastel Mojaves (pastave or as i like to call them "Motels")

albino male x pastel female=?

1/2 pastels, all offspring is 100% het albino

albino male x spider female=??

Same as above only with a spider.

Appreciate it again...any other suggestions would be great.

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pastel x spider =25% normal, 25% pastel, 25% spider, 25% bee
normal x spider= 50/50
mojave x pastel= 25% normal, 25% pastel, 25% mojave, 25% pastel mojave
albino x pastel= 100% het albino, 50% pastel
albino x spider= 100% het albino, 50% spider

haha looks like someone beat me to it

pastel female x male spider = i think a bumblebee, correct? Correct to a degree, see above post

normal male x female spider= is it one half normal/one half spiderIf the ball gods smile upon you yes, should be 50/50

mojave male x pastel female=?? Pastave or also called Motel

albino male x pastel female=? 50% 100% het for albinos that look normal and 50% Pastels that are also 100% het for albinos

albino male x spider female=?? again 50% 100% het for albinos that look normal and 50% spiders that are also 100% het for albinos


Some basics:
Co dom or Doms=
Spiders, Pinstripes, Pastels, Yellow Bellies, Lessers, Mojaves, Cinnamons. There are lots more, those are just the most common

Recessive:
Albinos, Pieds, Clowns, Ghosts

Good site to learn about genetics is www.ballpython.ca

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Originally Posted by NateDogg13

haha looks like someone beat me to it

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I think we were all typing at the same time :P

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

I think we were all typing at the same time :P

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Probably, took me a few mins to think and type

i would put a morph male with the spider female!!!... why produce only spiders and normals when you can produce mojospiders or bumblebees or spider het albinos

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

I think we were all typing at the same time :P

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I win!!! :D:D:D:D

j/k

:)

Justin

appreciate it greatly...The mojaves/spiders are my favorites (in the price range at least), never been a huge fan of the albinos.

At first I thought the OP posted those particular pairings based on what he owned. But his .sig says only one normal.

Anyway, it is important when trying to figure out genetics, to understand it does not matter with any one particular pairing, which is the male and which is the female. So with the first example given, pastel female x spider male, the results would be exactly the same for pastel male x spider female.

When choosing what to buy for your breeding project, it does make a big difference what is male & what is female. A male can breed several different females each year and therefore produce lots of clutches each year. But a female can only produce 1 clutch per year, and some people think that breeding them every year is too stressful and only breed the females on alternate years or maybe 2 out of 3 years.

Is your advice for the morphs like spiders/mojaves to get the male special BPs and normal females to breed?

Also, axanthic is a het trait? As in axanthic x normal=het for axanthic normals, and if you wanted to produce axanthics you'd need either two hets, or an axanthic x het axanthic?

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Originally Posted by pilot511

Is your advice for the morphs like spiders/mojaves to get the male special BPs and normal females to breed?

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Well, first I better make it clear that I'm not experienced with this. But it is sort of a combination of common sense and math and understanding the genetics. It depends on what your goals are. If you want to produce as many valuable morphs as possible with the least investment, then yes, buy male morphs (or hets) and normal females. If you have more money to spend or want results faster, buy both male & female morphs. If you just want a bumblebee as a pet, and aren't interested in other offspring, you might want to just buy a bumblebee and forget breeding.

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Originally Posted by pilot511

Also, axanthic is a het trait? As in axanthic x normal=het for axanthic normals, and if you wanted to produce axanthics you'd need either two hets, or an axanthic x het axanthic?

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You are close. The correct term is to call it a recessive trait, but you are correct that those are the traits that produce hets. And, of course you can also get axanthics with axanthic x axanthic.

Recessive....thanks KC...I'm a criminology major, I havent done genetics or anything since quite a few years ago in high school...My three favorite morphs are the axanthic, spider and mojave, I was thinking bout picking up a few one by one, as much as money permits really...Breeding would be nice but I'm in no rush to group them up and make $$ off it or anything...I'm not really a huge fan of the enormous snakes, just due to the husbandry needs or anything, nothing bigger than my JCP at least..