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  • 02-27-2008, 08:05 PM
    Repti-Rob
    Was Thinking about it......
    As far as selling goes I have a question. I have a couple of my gravid females that are going to produce this year a pastel x pastel, Axanthic x Axanthic and Spider x Super Pastel. My question is that I have paperwork from all my breeders that the sires came from and great records ( a bit OCD) :) but after reading the BOI on that other site I would not sell to many of the so called "straight shooters"! They seem to forget that innocent until proven guilty thing :confused: and god forbid if you have not been selling for 15+ years. So would a better route be to sell to close friends and breeders that i know? and skip their little fiefdom? ( i notice that once you are in a thread there you pretty much have to give up your life answering the same questions over and over)
    (Sorry about the rant but it was relevant to a private pm from a member of that site) just looking for others thoughts :)
  • 02-27-2008, 08:08 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Rob,

    It is your choice to sell to whom you want to. No one is stopping you, and no one is asking you to do otherwise.

    I think the BOI is a great tool when used properly, but I also think it can sully some peoples reputations very badly with undue force.

    You just have to take it all with a grain of salt. And also know that there may be more to the story than what is posted on the BOI.

    :twocents:


    Edit: Also, your reputation should be the top prority for you to be worried about if you plan on being forthright and a good breeder.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:10 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Repti-Rob View Post
    As far as selling goes I have a question. I have a couple of my gravid females that are going to produce this year a pastel x pastel, Axanthic x Axanthic and Spider x Super Pastel. My question is that I have paperwork from all my breeders that the sires came from and great records ( a bit OCD) :) but after reading the BOI on that other site I would not sell to many of the so called "straight shooters"! They seem to forget that innocent until proven guilty thing :confused: and god forbid if you have not been selling for 15+ years. So would a better route be to sell to close friends and breeders that i know? and skip their little fiefdom? ( i notice that once you are in a thread there you pretty much have to give up your life answering the same questions over and over)
    (Sorry about the rant but it was relevant to a private pm from a member of that site) just looking for others thoughts :)

    My thoughts on this.. DONT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY ON THAT FORUM!! Hope this helps...:rofl:
  • 02-27-2008, 08:13 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Rob,

    It is your choice to sell to whom you want to. No one is stopping you, and no one is asking you to do otherwise.

    I think the BOI is a great tool when used properly, but I also think it can sully some peoples reputations very badly with undue force.

    You just have to take it all with a grain of salt. And also know that there may be more to the story than what is posted on the BOI.

    :twocents:


    Edit: Also, your reputation should be the top prority for you to be worried about if you plan on being forthright and a good breeder.

    I'm forthright and I consider Myself a good breeder... Never had a problem with any animals I have sold or traded. But The little Girls over there try to ruin My name every chance the get.. What is that about??
  • 02-27-2008, 08:15 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

    If you've got people like Heather to speak up for you, even better.

    If you're bitter and broken and have had your ass handed to you like jason has, more than once if I recall correctly, you may feel otherwise.

    But then, you did deserve it, didn't you jason?
  • 02-27-2008, 08:16 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

    If you've got people like Heather to speak up for you, even better.

    If you're bitter and broken and have had your ass handed to you like jason has, more than once if I recall correctly, you may feel otherwise.

    But then, you did deserve it, didn't you jason?

    Who is Jason?
  • 02-27-2008, 08:17 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    I'm forthright and I consider Myself a good breeder... Never had a problem with any animals I have sold or traded. But The little Girls over there try to ruin My name every chance the get.. What is that about??

    AHahahahAHAHAHahahahHAhahahahaaHAHah

    I think you take too much upon yourself.

    Calling me and the other regulars at Fauna a little girl, while not NEAR insulting enough to get me going, is a CLEAR indication of why you are treated the way you are.

    You got that big fat butt of yours swatted, and deservedly so, on more than one occasion. It stings.

    You have a problem with owning your actions and blaming others when you get called for being stupid.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:18 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    Who is Jason?

    Sorry, I am TERRIBLE with names.

    I was referring to YOU.

    You can see the impression you have made on me.

    What's your name again?
  • 02-27-2008, 08:18 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    We will NOT bring the drama here - take your banter to PM's.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:21 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    AHahahahAHAHAHahahahHAhahahahaaHAHah

    I think you take too much upon yourself.

    Calling me and the other regulars at Fauna a little girl, while not NEAR insulting enough to get me going, is a CLEAR indication of why you are treated the way you are.

    You got that big fat butt of yours swatted, and deservedly so, on more than one occasion. It stings.

    You have a problem with owning your actions and blaming others when you get called for being stupid.

    I never called you a little girl.. Should I have?
  • 02-27-2008, 08:22 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    We will NOT bring the drama here - take your banter to PM's.

    Yea!!:P
  • 02-27-2008, 08:23 PM
    Repti-Rob
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Sorry Robin,

    Did not mean to bring drama:colbert: Just wanted some thoughts. I like this web site:) and will continue to be here. Just got a little steamed at a pm that suggested that I should sell for less because I am not "known". just asking so no fighting boys:banana:
  • 02-27-2008, 08:23 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    That was directed to you both.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:24 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    That was directed to you both.

    Both of who?:8:
  • 02-27-2008, 08:25 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Repti-Rob View Post
    Sorry Robin,

    Did not mean to bring drama:colbert: Just wanted some thoughts. I like this web site:) and will continue to be here. Just got a little steamed at a pm that suggested that I should sell for less because I am not "known". just asking so no fighting boys:banana:


    Not your fault. It's fine to have a civilized discussion about the topic at hand - but interpersonal disagreements between members need to be taken to PM.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:25 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Repti-Rob View Post
    Sorry Robin,

    Did not mean to bring drama:colbert: Just wanted some thoughts. I like this web site:) and will continue to be here. Just got a little steamed at a pm that suggested that I should sell for less because I am not "known". just asking so no fighting boys:banana:

    Was it the business of the person who sent you that PM to be making such a suggestion?

    No matter how new you are it's always and only up to you to decide what to charge. You may sell faster at a lower price but you may not care for speed. It's no ones business but yours.

    Maybe this person was just hoping to get your prices down without having to ask you to lower them. Maybe they are competition. Maybe they just like stirring up trouble.

    Price them where you will. You've got a good rep. as far as I know and others who know you will speak up for you if you are questioned. That's where we all start if we're honest.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:28 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    I think you should offer your hatchlings at whatever price you deem fair.
    If they don't sell due to you not being a "known breeder" then you can lower the price later on. You can lower the price at ANY time, or raise it. They are YOUR hatchlings.
    If what you bred is what you listed, then you won't be selling hets, correct?
    If you are selling visables, then other than not shipping after being paid, I'm not sure what you're worried about. Hets are difficult to sell when no one knows you, since they have to trust a relative stranger.
    Sounds like you will have some really exciting eggs happening, and I can't wait to see what you end up with! Good luck.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:34 PM
    Repti-Rob
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    I think you should offer your hatchlings at whatever price you deem fair.
    If they don't sell due to you not being a "known breeder" then you can lower the price later on. You can lower the price at ANY time, or raise it. They are YOUR hatchlings.
    If what you bred is what you listed, then you won't be selling hets, correct?
    If you are selling visables, then other than not shipping after being paid, I'm not sure what you're worried about. Hets are difficult to sell when no one knows you, since they have to trust a relative stranger.
    Sounds like you will have some really exciting eggs happening, and I can't wait to see what you end up with! Good luck.

    Thank you wolfy-hound! yours is the answer that I would expect here on this board and I am grateful for it:) and yes I knew getting in that het's were a pain that's why I steered clear lol
  • 02-27-2008, 08:43 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    I know it's kind of off topic and all but I'm stumped on.

    Does anyone know why jasballs would want me to blow on him?

    Is he some sort of weird breath fetish kind of guy?

    I just didn't understand the invitation in his PM.
  • 02-27-2008, 08:45 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    I know it's kind of off topic and all but I'm stumped on.

    Does anyone know why jasballs would want me to blow on him?

    Is he some sort of weird breath fetish kind of guy?

    I just didn't understand the invitation in his PM.


    LMAO!!:bow:
  • 02-27-2008, 09:46 PM
    juddb
    Re: Was Thinking about it......
    HAHAHA:gj::rofl:
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