Possible Het?

How many of you think you can spot a het from a possible het? This girl is a possible het. I'd like to here from you all what she is Possible het for?? No cheating!! LOL...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...balls1/148.jpg

I'd say possible het for carmel, or pied..:rolleyes:

Possible het for sexy?

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Possible het for sexy?

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Not Me!!! The snake....

I'm so unexperienced with this... beyond her being a wicked looking animal, I would go with Yellow belly, because there is only one trait I could point out :(

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

Not Me!!! The snake....

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Darn it!!!!

LA...
Bt

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I'm so unexperienced with this... beyond her being a wicked looking animal, I would go with Yellow belly, because there is only one trait I could point out :(

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I think you may be right! My male het pied looks just like her and keeps producing babies like this. Next season I'll breed them togeather and Hopefully see something...

I have no guess as I have to have a cheat sheet (hunters guide) in front me :)...but I would be interested in the "why" people are making the guesses they are. What are you seeing that makes you think it is something?

FREAK!:taz:

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

I think you may be right! My male het pied looks just like her and keeps producing babies like this. Next season I'll breed them togeather and Hopefully see something...

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Am I missing something here? Yellow belly is codominant-it can't be "het" for that. And if it is a yellow belly then you can readily tell from the belly pattern....

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

I have no guess as I have to have a cheat sheet (hunters guide) in front me :)...but I would be interested in the "why" people are making the guesses they are. What are you seeing that makes you think it is something?

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I was just saying that there is the head spot, and that is the only thing I can readily pick out, so I said yellow belly. It was just a shot.
Of course... our het clown has a head spot too...

Chris thought het pied...

edit: what do you think a pied ivory would look like? Another white snake? Maybe a pied with the yellow dorsal staining?

poss het pied?

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

I think you may be right! My male het pied looks just like her and keeps producing babies like this. Next season I'll breed them togeather and Hopefully see something...

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DUH!!! I quoted Connie instead of Chris....

Hell of a cool looking pattern. I'd say she's possible het for whatever trait the parents are het for.

nice hooks :nerd:

nice female but it would be pure speculation to say what she was het for.

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Originally Posted by BChambers

Am I missing something here? Yellow belly is codominant-it can't be "het" for that. And if it is a yellow belly then you can readily tell from the belly pattern....

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yellow belly is a het ivory. just like a pastel is a het super-pastel

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Originally Posted by veedubz

nice female but it would be pure speculation to say what she was het for.

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Says who? I say she is a het. I'll prove it to LOL!!

So what is she Jas? Huh? Do you know? Or is she a dinking project?

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Originally Posted by JenH

So what is she Jas? Huh? Do you know? Or is she a dinking project?

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She is a possie het pied... That I believe is a het. every morph has there markers, I'm just good at picking them out I guess LOL!

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Originally Posted by veedubz

nice female but it would be pure speculation to say what she was het for.




yellow belly is a het ivory. just like a pastel is a het super-pastel

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I'm well aware of that. That's what I meant by saying it is codominant-Jas cleared it up by noting he was quoting the wrong person in his post...He meant to indicate het pied...Which of course makes perfect sense (though a belly shot would have been nice).

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Originally Posted by BChambers

(though a belly shot would have been nice).

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Can do!:gj:



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...balls1/143.jpg

Nice! I love the belly markers on het pieds! I have a "few" girls like that laying around.:D

Het Ghost?
Edit: after seeing the belly.. het genetic stripe? Or Pied..?

Nice belly!

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Originally Posted by JenH

Nice belly!

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Me or the snake?;)

Write a book on the possible het markers and send me copy. I could use it for a few clutches this year!

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Originally Posted by BChambers

Am I missing something here? Yellow belly is codominant-it can't be "het" for that. And if it is a yellow belly then you can readily tell from the belly pattern....

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yellow belly is a hetrozygous animal

het dose not mean a hidden gene it mean two different genes

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Originally Posted by Snakes_in_a_shed

yellow belly is a hetrozygous animal

het dose not mean a hidden gene it mean two different genes

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Jeez-ONCE AGAIN- I'm aware of the genetics of codominants. I'm aware a yellow belly is "het" for Ivory. You are misreading not only my, but a couple of other, posts!:rolleye2:

Jas-If that animal fails to produce pieds, I'll eat a bowl of aspen bedding! Used aspen bedding!

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Originally Posted by BChambers

Jas-If that animal fails to produce pieds, I'll eat a bowl of aspen bedding! Used aspen bedding!

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I'll join you in that feeding Bro! LOL..

50% Possible Normal. Just bustin your chops. Smokin girl Bro. I hope she proves.

im not buying in to the so called "markers" theory so for me personaly it is a normal....a very nice normal. until she is bred to with a pied of course. ive seen a lot of royals with the so-called het pied marker go on to produce nothing visible. i would however breed her to a pied over any other normal female without the belly markings. it would bug me if i didnt as there is always that chance.

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Originally Posted by veedubz

im not buying in to the so called "markers" theory so for me personaly it is a normal....a very nice normal. until she is bred to with a pied of course. ive seen a lot of royals with the so-called het pied marker go on to produce nothing visible. i would however breed her to a pied over any other normal female without the belly markings. it would bug me if i didnt as there is always that chance.

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That IS why its a possible het...:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JBallPython

That IS why its a possible het...:rolleyes:

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i wouldnt call it that if i didnt know the parentage as it would get a bit confusing

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Originally Posted by veedubz

i wouldnt call it that if i didnt know the parentage as it would get a bit confusing

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You need to read the entire post, as John states that he produced this animal from his Het Pied male. That makes it a 50% Possible Het. Pied, no matter what angle you look at it from.

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Originally Posted by veedubz

i wouldnt call it that if i didnt know the parentage as it would get a bit confusing

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Well you need to buy your possible hets from more reputable sources, or make em' yourself.:gj:

I'd give her a 91.65483% chance that she'll prove to be het pied for you.... approximately. :)

Justin

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

I'd give her a 91.65483% chance that she'll prove to be het pied for you.... approximately. :)

Justin

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LMAO! You should know Mr. Pastel Pied!:D

So I read through the whole post and no one has mentioned what the Three markers are.

:( there are some of us out here that are still learning. What are the three markers as I have one that is 66% Pos Het Pied. I will start a new thread with pics when I get home.

Helix check out this thread I think you'll enjoy reading through them.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=45744

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Originally Posted by muddoc

You need to read the entire post, as John states that he produced this animal from his Het Pied male. That makes it a 50% Possible Het. Pied, no matter what angle you look at it from.

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my bad sorry bowt that. i was assuming thet this was a cf or wc for some strange reason ill get back in my box now lol

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Originally Posted by JBallPython

Well you need to buy your possible hets from more reputable sources, or make em' yourself.:gj:

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indeed i would if i dealt in possibe hets which i dont. the only time i would deal in possible hets would be if it were a whole clutch of 66% females.

Good luck with that girl Jas I also have two poss het pied girls and I can almost swear by one of them. Shes got a lot going on.

I've seen a few het pieds that have that busy pattern... here's hoping!

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

I think you may be right! My male het pied looks just like her and keeps producing babies like this. Next season I'll breed them togeather and Hopefully see something...

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I was going to say het pied also. I produced a 66%'er last year that has the same kind of busy patern and belly marks.

Poss. Het for Awesomeness

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Originally Posted by Bright202

Poss. Het for Awesomeness

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Thanks Mitch! The whole 3.2 turned out like this. I'm going to breed the two males to a spider and pastel next season. I think some crazy stuff will pop out!

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

Thanks Mitch! The whole 3.2 turned out like this. I'm going to breed the two males to a spider and pastel next season. I think some crazy stuff will pop out!

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like Spider poss hets and Pastel poss hets? :rofl:

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Originally Posted by PhillyBoyInTN

like Spider poss hets and Pastel poss hets? :rofl:

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No, Like yellow bellys!:rolleyes::8::rofl:

nice girl jas. hope she proves out!:D