First morph for breeding?

I read somewhere that a Pastel gives the best "bang for you buck" in breeding. Now I am not thinking about money here. I would just like to know which Morph will give a first time breeder the most options if I were to decide to get into this.

I have not had any luck with the search option here so I hope this is not a huge repost.

I would also like to say to you breeding gods that my intent is to learn as much as I can so if I do decide to do this, it will be in the most responsible and respectful way that I can handle it.

Thanks,
Geo

From what I've seen here Pastel and Mojave's seem to be the main "ingredient" in some pretty nice morphs. The more experienced people will be able to give you a better answer though.

I agree, I think pastels give you a nice stepping stone for a TON of awesome morphs... mix in a little pastel with anything to brighten it up! :)


Yellow bellies are nice, too... they seem to be a morph that's opening a lot of doors lately.

I guess you could go for super pastel's really cheap now a day's pastel's are awesome

Pastels are a very nice start IMO endless need for them when you start building your own designers

Cool guys, thanks for the replies. Would any of you know where a list of "outcomes" with breeding Pastels to ??? might be?

Geo

With all the awesome pastel combos out there, I think one of the most valuable parts of a breeder's war chest is a pastel female.

If you are serious about making pastel combos, buy a few pastel females now and begin raising them to breeding size. During that time, 2-3 years, you can shop around for the morph males you want since it only takes them about a year (or less) to get to breeding size.

That's just one of many different ways to go about it.

Hey Geo, I'm your neighbor in Woodridge. A few good sites for morphs and combos are

www.newenglandreptile.com
www.ralphdavisreptiles.com
www.ballpython.ca
www.8ballpythons.com

Elevatethis - Thanks for the tip. Makes alot of sense.

PythonWallace - I just moved out of woodridge man. Small world!

Geo

Here's a link to a page that shows some of the combos made with Pastels, but you can add Pastel to any of the other morphs and it will make something cool. Pastels are a great morph to start with. They are very inexpensive, yet they are still one of our favorites to look at. Good luck with your decision. :juggle:

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...d=68&Itemid=63

I agree with having pastels in your breeding stock but the first morph you get should be the one you want the most! You are gonna have this animal for a LONG time and take care of it so it should be what you really enjoy waking up to everyday wether it's an albino, caramel, spider, cinny, lesser or pastel. Whatever floats your boat will make it worth it to you when you make more and/or combos. Hard to pick one I don't like, LOL

Go with your gut and fav

You absolutely can not go wrong with pastels... One reason being that there is so much room for improvement.... For years, people have been breeding any pastel they can get their hands on to any female capable of laying eggs.... The results have been a mutation that is all over the place with regards to looks... Some are beautiful and some are just downright ugly.... I would suggest looking at a LOT of different pastels, and decide where you want to go with it. Do you want a more yellow pastel, or more orange? Do you like patterns that are reduced? Busy Jungle like patterns? or Granites? Do you like a more defined pattern with bold sharp edges or one that is more blurry and looks like wispy clouds? Once you have 'Your Vision' firmly in mind, Then buy the best looking pastel male money can buy and a bunch of normal girls that you think can help you achieve YOUR look. It may take many years to achieve the look you want... But in the end, people will come to you looking to buy pastels with the 'Big E' look. Now that the mutation is so widespread, selective breeding really is the way to go these days...

Mark

My roomate and I were facing this same choice earlier in the year and, in keeping with what most people are suggesting, we both ended up with a pastel. There just seem to be so many combos that they are a part of, not to mention their very reaosnable price and gorgeous looks. I still can't get over how pretty my little boy is. Hope this helps!

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You absolutely can not go wrong with pastels... One reason being that there is so much room for improvement.... For years, people have been breeding any pastel they can get their hands on to any female capable of laying eggs.... The results have been a mutation that is all over the place with regards to looks... Some are beautiful and some are just downright ugly.... I would suggest looking at a LOT of different pastels, and decide where you want to go with it. Do you want a more yellow pastel, or more orange? Do you like patterns that are reduced? Busy Jungle like patterns? or Granites? Do you like a more defined pattern with bold sharp edges or one that is more blurry and looks like wispy clouds? Once you have 'Your Vision' firmly in mind, Then buy the best looking pastel male money can buy and a bunch of normal girls that you think can help you achieve YOUR look. It may take many years to achieve the look you want... But in the end, people will come to you looking to buy pastels with the 'Big E' look. Now that the mutation is so widespread, selective breeding really is the way to go these days...

Mark

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Very good point Mark. Why would it matter if the BP was a male Pastel instead of a female? This has also been on my mind as to the pros and cons of either or. Hope this does not get to far off topic so if you have a link I can follow it so that this stays on track.

Geo

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Very good point Mark. Why would it matter if the BP was a male Pastel instead of a female? This has also been on my mind as to the pros and cons of either or. Hope this does not get to far off topic so if you have a link I can follow it so that this stays on track.

Geo

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I found what I was looking for on anther post. Got to love that search option.

Geo