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  • 01-02-2024, 10:44 PM
    Bluebell_1990
    Grow tent
    So I’m wondering how many people on here have bps in grow tents? Are they good for heating/humidity? Any tips?


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  • 01-02-2024, 10:54 PM
    Bogertophis
    Can you clarify what you mean by "grow tent"? Any particular brand & model? Because success probably depends a lot on a specific product.
  • 01-02-2024, 10:58 PM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    I’m just wanting to know if anyone else uses grow tents the one I’ve been looking at is Outsunny Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent 160cmx60cmx60cm


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  • 01-03-2024, 12:06 AM
    Bogertophis
    Personally, no, but I can remember someone else asking about them a while back, maybe a year ago? (in general, not that specific one) I don't know if they ever went ahead to try it. I seem to recall there were some major disadvantages brought up, so they probably didn't?

    Here it is- the discussion was like 3+ years ago- :)

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ight=grow+tent
  • 01-03-2024, 02:16 AM
    Armiyana
    I would just worry about them pushing on the zipper and popping them open. Or somehow causing issues with the structure and how it's attached if it's an internal one.

    It really would just depend on the tent I suppose.
  • 01-03-2024, 07:45 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bluebell_1990 View Post
    I’m just wanting to know if anyone else uses grow tents the one I’ve been looking at is Outsunny Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent 160cmx60cmx60cm

    For the Americans, that's a 4 x 2 x 5 enclosure. So, yeah, that's gonna be tough to heat and to get humid. It does look like it'll hold the humidity once it's in there, but once you open that door, you'll lose it. Five feet of height is too much for a ball python, even dangerous. This would work better for a long, slender-bodied, arboreal species than for a ball python.
  • 01-03-2024, 07:51 AM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    Its 5x2x2 the height is 2 foot and its 5 foot long the python its for is a girl she’s 9 months old she’s currently in a 3 foot Viv but she’s the length of it and growing fast she loves to explore and very a confident girl so she definitely will use the space


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  • 01-03-2024, 07:55 AM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Armiyana View Post
    I would just worry about them pushing on the zipper and popping them open. Or somehow causing issues with the structure and how it's attached if it's an internal one.

    It really would just depend on the tent I suppose.

    I thought that too but when looking into it you can get Locks to lock the zipper too


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  • 01-03-2024, 10:02 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bluebell_1990 View Post
    Its 5x2x2 the height is 2 foot and its 5 foot long the python its for is a girl she’s 9 months old she’s currently in a 3 foot Viv but she’s the length of it and growing fast she loves to explore and very a confident girl so she definitely will use the space

    Right you are! Sorry, I was looking at the wrong version. I still think it's a bad idea. Unless you're planning on keeping it in a 27C (80F) room, then heating it is going to require some creative engineering. Creative engineering is fun for those that enjoy it, but it rarely results in cost savings or a better product. I know this from personal experience. So, I'd advise you to invest your money in a more conventional pvc enclosure.
  • 01-03-2024, 10:10 AM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    I have a reptile room that’s never below 25c that’s the problem in uk pvc is harder to come by bigger than 4 foot anyway I’m doing a lot of research into it before making a decision I want to upgrade all my pythons to 5 foot plus so I’m looking into it all first


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  • 01-03-2024, 10:22 AM
    Malum Argenteum
    Some quotes from the item reviews on Amazon:

    "Not fully insulated against light ingress / egress caused by 2 or 3 spots of poor sewing."

    "You have to give it some thought to get the plastic protectors positioned correctly on the frame so as not to tear the fabric."

    "Zip broke 2 weeks in"

    "Zip dodgy and hard to close at the front."

    An enclosure needs to be 100% secure against escape, and be so for years on end. This doesn't sound like it would be.

    Other things to think about are how to heat (secure attachment points for overhead heating; how to isolate heat sources from the snake), cleanability (is dried urate removable from the surface? I don't know), whether ventilation is sufficient and adjustable enough, how to attach branches and other decor securely.

    I would not be comfortable thinking that a large active snake couldn't compromise the structure of that unit given enough time by pushing small holes and going between the frame tubes and the tent wall.
  • 01-03-2024, 10:28 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bluebell_1990 View Post
    I have a reptile room that’s never below 25c that’s the problem in uk pvc is harder to come by bigger than 4 foot anyway I’m doing a lot of research into it before making a decision I want to upgrade all my pythons to 5 foot plus so I’m looking into it all first

    I suppose it could work. Hopefully, it's not your best option. I'd be tough to view your bp in this thing.
    https://i.imgur.com/RMziUuF.jpg
  • 01-03-2024, 10:30 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Malum Argenteum View Post
    Some quotes from the item reviews on Amazon:

    "Not fully insulated against light ingress / egress caused by 2 or 3 spots of poor sewing."

    "You have to give it some thought to get the plastic protectors positioned correctly on the frame so as not to tear the fabric."

    "Zip broke 2 weeks in"

    "Zip dodgy and hard to close at the front."

    An enclosure needs to be 100% secure against escape, and be so for years on end. This doesn't sound like it would be.

    Other things to think about are how to heat (secure attachment points for overhead heating; how to isolate heat sources from the snake), cleanability (is dried urate removable from the surface? I don't know), whether ventilation is sufficient and adjustable enough, how to attach branches and other decor securely.

    I would not be comfortable thinking that a large active snake couldn't compromise the structure of that unit given enough time by pushing small holes and going between the frame tubes and the tent wall.

    Good points, all.
  • 01-03-2024, 11:32 AM
    Bogertophis
    I've modified furniture cabinets to successfully house snakes so I'm in favor of "thinking outside the box" & being creative when keeping snakes. I can see why you're looking at the space, dimensions, & price tag & thinking "why not?" But I question whether a grow tent would have enough structural strength for daily testing by an inquisitive snake, & a product that's just designed to hold plants may also have many sharp or abrasive edges inside- because they don't expect live creatures to be sliding around inside it. Whenever you use a product it's not designed for, the safety factor is on you.

    Reading the product reviews tells you what many of the problems might be- ie. imperfect construction. But it seems like the only thing you'll be happy with is to try it & see. I hope you let us know how it goes. I really wish JP23 had updated their experience with this.

    Afterthought- ever get a stuck zipper on your clothing? ;) These zippers are going to get a lot of use- I hope they're up to the task, because if not, it would be awfully hard to fix.
  • 01-03-2024, 11:48 AM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I've modified furniture cabinets to successfully house snakes so I'm in favor of "thinking outside the box" & being creative when keeping snakes. I can see why you're looking at the space, dimensions, & price tag & thinking "why not?" But I question whether a grow tent would have enough structural strength for daily testing by an inquisitive snake, & a product that's just designed to hold plants may also have many sharp or abrasive edges inside- because they don't expect live creatures to be sliding around inside it. Whenever you use a product it's not designed for, the safety factor is on you.

    Reading the product reviews tells you what many of the problems might be- ie. imperfect construction. But it seems like the only thing you'll be happy with is to try it & see. I hope you let us know how it goes. I really wish JP23 had updated their experience with this.

    Afterthought- ever get a stuck zipper on your clothing? ;) These zippers are going to get a lot of use- I hope they're up to the task, because if not, it would be awfully hard to fix.

    It’s the sizing and humidity side of things yes of course the price is good too [emoji23] well I have ordered it along with things to make a custom background to make the structure abit more solid I will be lining it with pond liner which I do with all of my tanks I will be sure to update I have the tank she currently is in and if I don’t think it’s structurally good when I’ve finished it I will be buying a wooden vivarium for her so fingers crossed haha


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  • 01-03-2024, 11:52 AM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    I suppose it could work. Hopefully, it's not your best option. I'd be tough to view your bp in this thing.
    https://i.imgur.com/RMziUuF.jpg

    It’s a do it up and see option I’ve ordered it along with stuff to make a background and things I would normally do if before putting her in I don’t feel it’s safe I’m not happy with it I will just buy a wooden vivarium it’s not something I have to do it’s something I’m giving a go before she goes in and seeing how I feel if it works great if not then I will just buy one


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  • 01-03-2024, 11:55 AM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Malum Argenteum View Post
    Some quotes from the item reviews on Amazon:

    "Not fully insulated against light ingress / egress caused by 2 or 3 spots of poor sewing."

    "You have to give it some thought to get the plastic protectors positioned correctly on the frame so as not to tear the fabric."

    "Zip broke 2 weeks in"

    "Zip dodgy and hard to close at the front."

    An enclosure needs to be 100% secure against escape, and be so for years on end. This doesn't sound like it would be.

    Other things to think about are how to heat (secure attachment points for overhead heating; how to isolate heat sources from the snake), cleanability (is dried urate removable from the surface? I don't know), whether ventilation is sufficient and adjustable enough, how to attach branches and other decor securely.

    I would not be comfortable thinking that a large active snake couldn't compromise the structure of that unit given enough time by pushing small holes and going between the frame tubes and the tent wall.

    I have read through the reviews I’ve ordered it I’m going to see once I’ve bought and modified it I will be putting pond liner on the bottom as I do with all my tanks that’s easily cleaned the branches you can hang with rope from support bars the heating I can use a Arcadia dome with the cage on the bottom


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  • 01-03-2024, 12:24 PM
    Bogertophis
    Even if it doesn't work out for full-time occupation, it would probably good for a supervised exercise enclosure, but I do hope it all goes well anyway. Sometimes trying is the only way to know.
  • 01-03-2024, 12:29 PM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    Yeh I can definitely keep it as the nosey tent [emoji1787][emoji119] so it’s still going to benefit them either way


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  • 01-31-2024, 05:40 PM
    Bluebell_1990
    Re: Grow tent
    UPDATE! All set up the wood on the top is the uvb and heat lamp is screwed into the new resident is currently enjoying it but I will be checking for me it’s not long term this is very temporary a month or two at most but I will be keeping it for enrichment and a just incase situation https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0911301769.jpg


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