New keeper and ambient temprature

Hello everyone!

Long time reader but first time poster here. Decided after seeing how friendly and helpful this community is as opposed to others, looking at you Reddit, that I would register and stay awhile. I'm really hoping that some of you can help me out on the topic of ambient temperatures. As I'm sure has been said many times before, 5 different websites and 5 different care guides give you 5 different answers. Hopefully someone can help clarify this for me, and I apologize if this topic has been beat to death, so to speak.

I have my new male in a 40 gallon breeder, front opening Zilla enclosure. I have 3-5 inches of Zoomed forest floor substrate (deeper in some places because I chose to bury the hides to make it a tad more realistic), plenty of clutter, fake plants, logs, cork bark etc etc. I'm using a UTH controlled by a Jump Start thermostat, probe is sandwiched between the UTH and the glass on the outside of the enclosure, and is set to 95 which has kept the warm hide at a nice 90-91 (measured with an infrared temp gun). Right now my ambient temps are right around 75 and increase during the day as it warms up, but never higher than say 78. my Humidity stays between 60-70% when not using any overhead heat. I have a 60 watt CHE that I can turn on, which bumps the ambient temp to around 84-85 but then drops my humidity below 50% later in the day. I have over half the top covered in aluminum foil, and the plastic covers that Zilla includes with this enclosure to hold in humidity, but as you all know, tanks aren't the best at retaining moisture.

My issue is, again going back to 5 sites 5 answers, I've read that below 70 is a no go, below 75 is a no go, below 80 is a no go. I've read that I shouldn't worry about the ambient temp as long as the hot spot is where it should be, I've read that I need the hot spot and the ambient temp just so or the snake will die, I mean... there is a lot of back and forth about this stuff. Can someone help me out here? I even browsed the forums on Morph Market and the breeders are going back and forth disagreeing about this. I guess I just want to not stress about this, but be sure that my animal is getting the best care I can provide.

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Originally Posted by Hugsplox

Hello everyone!

Long time reader but first time poster here. Decided after seeing how friendly and helpful this community is as opposed to others, looking at you Reddit, that I would register and stay awhile. I'm really hoping that some of you can help me out on the topic of ambient temperatures. As I'm sure has been said many times before, 5 different websites and 5 different care guides give you 5 different answers. Hopefully someone can help clarify this for me, and I apologize if this topic has been beat to death, so to speak.

I have my new male in a 40 gallon breeder, front opening Zilla enclosure. I have 3-5 inches of Zoomed forest floor substrate (deeper in some places because I chose to bury the hides to make it a tad more realistic), plenty of clutter, fake plants, logs, cork bark etc etc. I'm using a UTH controlled by a Jump Start thermostat, probe is sandwiched between the UTH and the glass on the outside of the enclosure, and is set to 95 which has kept the warm hide at a nice 90-91 (measured with an infrared temp gun). Right now my ambient temps are right around 75 and increase during the day as it warms up, but never higher than say 78. my Humidity stays between 60-70% when not using any overhead heat. I have a 60 watt CHE that I can turn on, which bumps the ambient temp to around 84-85 but then drops my humidity below 50% later in the day. I have over half the top covered in aluminum foil, and the plastic covers that Zilla includes with this enclosure to hold in humidity, but as you all know, tanks aren't the best at retaining moisture.
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My issue is, again going back to 5 sites 5 answers, I've read that below 70 is a no go, below 75 is a no go, below 80 is a no go. I've read that I shouldn't worry about the ambient temp as long as the hot spot is where it should be, I've read that I need the hot spot and the ambient temp just so or the snake will die, I mean... there is a lot of back and forth about this stuff. Can someone help me out here? I even browsed the forums on Morph Market and the breeders are going back and forth disagreeing about this. I guess I just want to not stress about this, but be sure that my animal is getting the best care I can provide.

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It sounds like you've done a lot of research and it shows in your setup description. I agree, the more you read, the more answers you're going to get on setup requirements. I 'think' the optimal ambient temps are around 80 but I think anything over 75 should be sufficient. The more important numbers to focus on would be belly heat (especially since BPs spend most of their time in their hides) and humidity for good sheds. It sounds to me that your well on your way.

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It sounds like you've done a lot of research and it shows in your setup description. I agree, the more you read, the more answers you're going to get on setup requirements. I 'think' the optimal ambient temps are around 80 but I think anything over 75 should be sufficient. The more important numbers to focus on would be belly heat (especially since BPs spend most of their time in their hides) and humidity for good sheds. It sounds to me that your well on your way.

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Thanks a lot for your response, and yea I think I obsessed a little on the research prior to bringing a BP home. I keep other reptiles as well but this was my first snake so I wanted to do a little extra. I think I have the belly heat down, I ran the tank for almost a month before bringing my snake home so I could make sure the thermostat was doing what it was supposed to do. His warm hide measured at the glass is 90-91ish never hotter than 92 or cooler than 90. I felt pretty comfortable with my set up until I stumbled onto a lengthy argument on Reddit about ambient temps and then I kinda of went down the rabbit hole of "am I doing this right?" which eventually led me here.

I see you're in Georgia too, so you know our weather is... subject to change lol. So far I haven't seen any issues especially considering I have a bearded dragon with her big heat lamp on the other side of the room, so my office stays right around 75 all day, but at night It can get down to 72-73. I don't believe (believe being the strong word) that the snake enclosure gets that low though, but I may be wrong.

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Thanks a lot for your response, and yea I think I obsessed a little on the research prior to bringing a BP home. I keep other reptiles as well but this was my first snake so I wanted to do a little extra. I think I have the belly heat down, I ran the tank for almost a month before bringing my snake home so I could make sure the thermostat was doing what it was supposed to do. His warm hide measured at the glass is 90-91ish never hotter than 92 or cooler than 90. I felt pretty comfortable with my set up until I stumbled onto a lengthy argument on Reddit about ambient temps and then I kinda of went down the rabbit hole of "am I doing this right?" which eventually led me here.

I see you're in Georgia too, so you know our weather is... subject to change lol. So far I haven't seen any issues especially considering I have a bearded dragon with her big heat lamp on the other side of the room, so my office stays right around 75 all day, but at night It can get down to 72-73. I don't believe (believe being the strong word) that the snake enclosure gets that low though, but I may be wrong.

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Your preparation sounds a lot like my experiences when I got my 1st Ball Python. I had my setup running for about a month before I even pulled the trigger on the snake. I wanted to make sure I had everything dialed in to give my snake the best chance of survival and provide optimal health. You'll find out that these creatures are pretty resilient. I will say that I got a little worried two years ago with all that snow when I saw my ambients dip down below 75. I was wrapping the enclosure in blankets. He survived just fine during that winter.

What part of Georgia? I'm in Cobb County.

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Your preparation sounds a lot like my experiences when I got my 1st Ball Python. I had my setup running for about a month before I even pulled the trigger on the snake. I wanted to make sure I had everything dialed in to give my snake the best chance of survival and provide optimal health. You'll find out that these creatures are pretty resilient. I will say that I got a little worried two years ago with all that snow when I saw my ambients dip down below 75. I was wrapping the enclosure in blankets. He survived just fine during that winter.

What part of Georgia? I'm in Cobb County.

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I'm down in Houston County. Yea I'm not super concerned with it getting too cold in this room, but again with the back and forth over ambient temps I was sitting here like, do I need to have this CHE running 24-7? Like if a bearded dragon is cool with nighttime temps dropping as low as 72, can this BP from a cooler area not be okay with it? It was all super confusing. I'm running the CHE now just to kind of see what my humidity does during the day, and while the ambient temp is up in the 80s the humidity has gone down to 58% and still dropping in an hour or so.

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I'm down in Houston County. Yea I'm not super concerned with it getting too cold in this room, but again with the back and forth over ambient temps I was sitting here like, do I need to have this CHE running 24-7? Like if a bearded dragon is cool with nighttime temps dropping as low as 72, can this BP from a cooler area not be okay with it? It was all super confusing. I'm running the CHE now just to kind of see what my humidity does during the day, and while the ambient temp is up in the 80s the humidity has gone down to 58% and still dropping in an hour or so.

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I've never used a CHE so hard for me to comment. I would think having a CHE running 24/7 would zap the humidity. Do you have it on a thermostat?? I use a RHP which creates a nice ambient temperature as well as a surface temp.

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I've never used a CHE so hard for me to comment. I would think having a CHE running 24/7 would zap the humidity. Do you have it on a thermostat?? I use a RHP which creates a nice ambient temperature as well as a surface temp.

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I don't have this CHE on a thermostat because of the low wattage and the size of the enclosure. That was part of my month long test before I put a snake in there was how how it would get, and it doesn't heat anything over 85, and that's at the closest spot the BP could get to. And you're absolutely correct, even at the low wattage and, in my opinion, not high temps, it still sucks the humidity out of the tank. I think the lowest I've seen it drop on the hot side is 48%. Which I guess 2% below the recommended isn't terrible but, I hate to have the BP get a RI because I was more focused on ambient temps than humidity, especially if the belly heat is fine.

I think I'm just gonna splurge on a PVC enclosure with RHP at some point, I just don't know enough about them to really put together a set up.

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I think I'm just gonna splurge on a PVC enclosure with RHP at some point, I just don't know enough about them to really put together a set up.

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They are extremely easy to setup and take a lot of the stress away which comes w/ a glass enclosure (i.e. humidity, ambients). Just keep in mind, while AP is awesome and worth it, they take a long time to ship.

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They are extremely easy to setup and take a lot of the stress away which comes w/ a glass enclosure (i.e. humidity, ambients). Just keep in mind, while AP is awesome and worth it, they take a long time to ship.

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Yea I saw their wait times were a little long. I just recently got a Zen Habitats 4x2x2 for my bearded dragon, and it took well over a month before it ever shipped so I'm familiar. In the meantime though, in your experience, would you say 75+ is a good ambient or should I be cranking those temps up and just misting a few times a day to keep the humidity up to compensate for the CHE?

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Yea I saw their wait times were a little long. I just recently got a Zen Habitats 4x2x2 for my bearded dragon, and it took well over a month before it ever shipped so I'm familiar. In the meantime though, in your experience, would you say 75+ is a good ambient or should I be cranking those temps up and just misting a few times a day to keep the humidity up to compensate for the CHE?

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Personally, I think 75 plus is fine. Before my AP enclosure, my ambients were in the mid 70s and it wasn't a problem.

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Personally, I think 75 plus is fine. Before my AP enclosure, my ambients were in the mid 70s and it wasn't a problem.

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Awesome, I'll stick with that for now and if I see any issues I'll adjust. While I've got you, what AP enclosure set up did you go with? I've been looking at them but honestly I have zero experience with RHP or heat tape or any of the fancier enclosure stuff.

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Awesome, I'll stick with that for now and if I see any issues I'll adjust. While I've got you, what AP enclosure set up did you go with? I've been looking at them but honestly I have zero experience with RHP or heat tape or any of the fancier enclosure stuff.

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I went w/ an AP T10 which gives me more height for easier cleaning. I have two of them, each outfitted with an RHP and no heat tape. The RHP came already installed and all you have to do is play around w/ the themostat probe to find the right temps. It's pretty easy.

Welcome. I use a similar tank and since I live in NJ and have to run 3 Che’s in the winter months I use a humidifier with a humidistat to keep the RH just right.. here is a thread on my setup...

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-new-enclosure

hopefully this helps. Also my ambient stays at around 77 year round, hotspot at 92 and RH at 60%. I use 4 jumpstart thermostats, one for the UTH and one for each of the 3 Che’s although only 3 are plugged in during the spring and summer.

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Welcome. I use a similar tank and since I live in NJ and have to run 3 Che’s in the winter months I use a humidifier with a humidistat to keep the RH just right.. here is a thread on my setup...

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-new-enclosure

hopefully this helps. Also my ambient stays at around 77 year round, hotspot at 92 and RH at 60%. I use 4 jumpstart thermostats, one for the UTH and one for each of the 3 Che’s although only 3 are plugged in during the spring and summer.

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Hey and thanks for the response! Do you find you have any issues keeping your enclosure at that temp year round? I think Mine is sitting around the same temp with just a UTH due to the room temp (all these other heat mats/lamsp on the other reptiles.)

It may have already been suggested but a must for every keeper has to be a 10 dollar digital temp gun off eBay or Amazon or whatever .

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Welcome! Even though this community can be feisty at times, it's definitely friendlier than Reddit. ;)

Regards the temps, 75 is ok but I always recommend for keepers to bump their ambient temps to at least 78. Ideal temps would be around 80-84, especially if you're not providing a constant hot spot. The reason for higher temps is warmer temperatures reduce the time required for digestion and increase overall metabolism. With the warmer temperatures your BP's body functions more efficiently.

I attached a source below for you to check out. If you scroll down, you'll find additional info regarding temps and different kind of pythons. This specific citation is for Rock Pythons but I feel that it applies to other species of pythons as well:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11024579_Effects_of_temperature_on_the_metabolic_response_to_feeding_in_Python_m olurus


The humidity isn't as important as temps unless your BP is going into shed so I wouldn't be too worries about the CHE sucking out the humidity. Once shed is coming up, you can always bump up the humidity with moss or by spraying.

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Welcome! Even though this community can be feisty at times, it's definitely friendlier than Reddit. ;)

Regards the temps, 75 is ok but I always recommend for keepers to bump their ambient temps to at least 78. Ideal temps would be around 80-84, especially if you're not providing a constant hot spot. The reason for higher temps is warmer temperatures reduce the time required for digestion and increase overall metabolism. With the warmer temperatures your BP's body functions more efficiently.

I attached a source below for you to check out. If you scroll down, you'll find additional info regarding temps and different kind of pythons. This specific citation is for Rock Pythons but I feel that it applies to other species of pythons as well:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11024579_Effects_of_temperature_on_the_metabolic_response_to_feeding_in_Python_m olurus


The humidity isn't as important as temps unless your BP is going into shed so I wouldn't be too worries about the CHE sucking out the humidity. Once shed is coming up, you can always bump up the humidity with moss or by spraying.

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Thanks so much for the information. I am running the CHE now based off the feedback I got here, so at the coolest my hot side is 82. I do have a constant 90-91 hotspot on the UTH under the hot hide, but better safe than sorry, I’ll run the CHE as well. Will it hurt the BP if the humidity drops down to 50ish when not shedding? I’ve heard too low and too high can cause RIs.

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Thanks for the suggestion Zincubus. You may have missed it in my wall of text original post but I do use an infrared temp gun to test hot spots. I have a few other basking reptiles so it was a must for them. When the BP came home I was a head of the game so to speak


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Will it hurt the BP if the humidity drops down to 50ish when not shedding? I’ve heard too low and too high can cause RIs.

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Not at all. If your BP isn't shedding, there's no reason to have high humidity. I run all of my terrariums at 82 ambient temps with 40-60 humidity.

If anything, high humidity and low temps can cause RI in the first place.

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Not at all. If your BP isn't shedding, there's no reason to have high humidity. I run all of my terrariums at 82 ambient temps with 40-60 humidity.

If anything, high humidity and low temps can cause RI in the first place.

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Awesome, thanks so much for the info. This forum has been night and day more helpful than Reddit and you guys are way friendlier. I’ll leave the CHE running and just mist if I need to.

I will tell you he got here from Wilbanks Tuesday and crushed his first feeding this evening, so at least that went well!


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I will tell you he got here from Wilbanks Tuesday and crushed his first feeding this evening, so at least that went well!


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Mike has great animals! My Pied boy came from him as a hatchling and he's about to turn 7 years old in December.

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Mike has great animals! My Pied boy came from him as a hatchling and he's about to turn 7 years old in December.

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I know! Prices are really reasonable too! I picked up a orange dream kingpin, beautiful boy, on the off chance that I want to breed done the road, not nearly as expensive as I thought he’d be.


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Welcome! Lots to learn here! Thought I'd chime in since I use CHE's and a UTH. -I have a 5 year old male in an animal plastics cage, but I had him in a 40gal for his first two years-

I keep my UTH at 91 and that side of his tank covered with a very thin layer of coco fiber and sphagnum moss mix (he loves to urinate in his warm hide) - he also has 60 watt CHE on the same side of the tank. Both are on their own thermostats (Herpstat EZ2). In the winter I usually have to add a second CHE on the opposite side of his tank since his tank is so long that the cool side gets too cool.

To maintain humidity I have two little sauce dishes, one in each rear corner, that has damp (not dripping) sphagnum moss in it and a large lufa-type natural sponge in the middle of the tank. I just moisten these with once or twice a day with warm water. As the moss dries from the CHE's it releases the moisture and usually keeps at 50-55% in the winter. In the summer I only have the sponge if I'm going away for more than 24 hours. With just one moss on the cool side his humidity hovers around 49-53%, when he's in shed I moisten the coco fiber over the CHE which releases really nice humidity for a few days - usually keeps it around 60-70%.

With a glass tank you will have slightly more trouble, but covering 2/3 of the lid tightly with foil should help. Good luck with your noodle!

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Welcome! Lots to learn here! Thought I'd chime in since I use CHE's and a UTH. -I have a 5 year old male in an animal plastics cage, but I had him in a 40gal for his first two years-

I keep my UTH at 91 and that side of his tank covered with a very thin layer of coco fiber and sphagnum moss mix (he loves to urinate in his warm hide) - he also has 60 watt CHE on the same side of the tank. Both are on their own thermostats (Herpstat EZ2). In the winter I usually have to add a second CHE on the opposite side of his tank since his tank is so long that the cool side gets too cool.

To maintain humidity I have two little sauce dishes, one in each rear corner, that has damp (not dripping) sphagnum moss in it and a large lufa-type natural sponge in the middle of the tank. I just moisten these with once or twice a day with warm water. As the moss dries from the CHE's it releases the moisture and usually keeps at 50-55% in the winter. In the summer I only have the sponge if I'm going away for more than 24 hours. With just one moss on the cool side his humidity hovers around 49-53%, when he's in shed I moisten the coco fiber over the CHE which releases really nice humidity for a few days - usually keeps it around 60-70%.

With a glass tank you will have slightly more trouble, but covering 2/3 of the lid tightly with foil should help. Good luck with your noodle!

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Question for you... how do you place a CHE in an Animal Plastics enclosure? I have an AP enclosure as well, with RHP, but just curious how you use the CHE. Do you have a hole on top of the enclosure?

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Question for you... how do you place a CHE in an Animal Plastics enclosure? I have an AP enclosure as well, with RHP, but just curious how you use the CHE. Do you have a hole on top of the enclosure?

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To my surprise, AP offers a circle to be cut out on top and they cover it with a screen. It's an additional "option".

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To my surprise, AP offers a circle to be cut out on top and they cover it with a screen. It's an additional "option".

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Not sure if you're still checking older posts, but just wanted to tell you your advice worked well! A little trial and error over the past week with a CHE and dimmer, but my ambient temps are in the 80s now and my humidity has been sitting comfortable in the 60s for a couple of days now with no misting needed. Still running the UTH at 90 under the hot hide, but other than that I think we're finally in a comfortable spot!

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Not sure if you're still checking older posts, but just wanted to tell you your advice worked well! A little trial and error over the past week with a CHE and dimmer, but my ambient temps are in the 80s now and my humidity has been sitting comfortable in the 60s for a couple of days now with no misting needed. Still running the UTH at 90 under the hot hide, but other than that I think we're finally in a comfortable spot!

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That awesome! Great job on tinkering with the CHE. Honestly, the initial setup is the hardest thing. Sounds like you have things dialed in.

Let me know if you notice a behavior change with your BP. I'm always interested to see if their behavior changes during warmer temps. Also, be sure to keep an eye on that CHE during warmer weather since you only have it on a dimmer.

If you ever make a leap into PVC enclosures like Animal Plastics, things get even easier. You don't have to monitor temps as much and humidity stays relatively the same.

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That awesome! Great job on tinkering with the CHE. Honestly, the initial setup is the hardest thing. Sounds like you have things dialed in.

Be sure to keep an eye on that CHE during warmer weather since you only have it on a dimmer.

If you ever make a leap into PVC enclosures like Animal Plastics, things get even easier. You don't have to monitor temps as much and humidity stays relatively the same.

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I will for sure. I work from home and looks like will continue to do so, and all my guys are in my office. It's a little warm for me lol but perfect for them so I don't complain. I think it helps a lot that my warmer temp animals are in here keeping the ambient temps up. I am looking at the PVC enclosures specifically the Animal Plastics, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm still debating on if I want to go ahead and get the order in (since their lead times are a little long) or wait until my guy gets a little bigger. I guess it doesn't really matter lol

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I'm still debating on if I want to go ahead and get the order in (since their lead times are a little long) or wait until my guy gets a little bigger. I guess it doesn't really matter lol

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Yea, take your time. There's no hurry.

If you do pull the trigger, look into the T10. It has a little bit more height, which makes a difference when you clean. Also, splurge on the divider. It cuts the enclosure in half so it makes keeping a small BP much easier. Once your BP gets up to size, you can take it out.

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Yea, take your time. There's no hurry.

If you do pull the trigger, look into the T10. It has a little bit more height, which makes a difference when you clean. Also, splurge on the divider. It cuts the enclosure in half so it makes keeping a small BP much easier. Once your BP gets up to size, you can take it out.

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I'm glad you brought that up I was actually going to ask. I've seen some back and forth about smaller BPs in big enclosures specifically when I started looking into the T10. Some folks say it's a no no but others have said it's cool if you have enough clutter. I think I'd like to go with a RHP and I'm wondering if the divider would interfere with that.

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I'm glad you brought that up I was actually going to ask. I've seen some back and forth about smaller BPs in big enclosures specifically when I started looking into the T10. Some folks say it's a no no but others have said it's cool if you have enough clutter. I think I'd like to go with a RHP and I'm wondering if the divider would interfere with that.

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Yea, everyone has different way of keeping so you'll get different opinions on the matter. It all comes down to what works for you and your animal.

I'm currently running a Reptile Basics 80 watt RHP and it fits perfectly on one side so you shouldn't have any issues.

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Yea, everyone has different way of keeping so you'll get different opinions on the matter. It all comes down to what works for you and your animal.

I'm currently running a Reptile Basics 80 watt RHP and it fits perfectly on one side so you shouldn't have any issues.

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So the more and more I watch my humidity fluctuate, even though it's way more stable than it was, the more I think I need to just go ahead and pull the trigger on a AP enclosure and tough it out for the few months it'll take to get. Last question I promise. The T10 looks like the way to go, and I'm just going to have them install a RHP for me. Do you have any issues with the RHP drying out the enclosure? Also does the RHP do a good job keeping both the ambient temp up AND keeping your warm hide at the appropriate temp? I ask that because it doesn't seem like you can use a UTH on these because the pvc is so thick, but I may just need to be educated lol.

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So the more and more I watch my humidity fluctuate, even though it's way more stable than it was, the more I think I need to just go ahead and pull the trigger on a AP enclosure and tough it out for the few months it'll take to get. Last question I promise. The T10 looks like the way to go, and I'm just going to have them install a RHP for me. Do you have any issues with the RHP drying out the enclosure? Also does the RHP do a good job keeping both the ambient temp up AND keeping your warm hide at the appropriate temp? I ask that because it doesn't seem like you can use a UTH on these because the pvc is so thick, but I may just need to be educated lol.

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Don't be afraid to ask as many questions as you have, that's the whole point of this forum.

Also, don't overthink it. If your humidity fluctuates between 40-60, you're fine. Unless your BP is shedding, you don't need to have constant high humidity.

The RHP doesn't dry out the enclosure at all. The humidity will depend of what kind of bedding you're using though. I personally use the Coconut Husk and it works out great. The RHP does a great job at providing ambient temps. With that being said, size does matter so make sure you get the right wattage. Also, it's not always going to be on. So if you're looking for that constant "hot spot", you're not going to get it. AP enclosures do have a cut-out for UTH probe underneath so you can install one. You will have to play with the temp, but it absolutely possible to heat it up. Personally, I don't a "hot spot", just ambient temp of about 82 but that goes back to the notion of everyone doing things what work for them.

At the same time invest in a proportional thermostat. I personally have the Spyder Robotics Herpstat, but there's other ones as well.

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Don't be afraid to ask as many questions as you have, that's the whole point of this forum.

Also, don't overthink it. If your humidity fluctuates between 40-60, you're fine. Unless your BP is shedding, you don't need to have constant high humidity.

The RHP doesn't dry out the enclosure at all. The humidity will depend of what kind of bedding you're using though. I personally use the Coconut Husk and it works out great. The RHP does a great job at providing ambient temps. With that being said, size does matter so make sure you get the right wattage. Also, it's not always going to be on. So if you're looking for that constant "hot spot", you're not going to get it. AP enclosures do have a cut-out for UTH probe underneath so you can install one. You will have to play with the temp, but it absolutely possible to heat it up. Personally, I don't a "hot spot", just ambient temp of about 82 but that goes back to the notion of everyone doing things what work for them.

At the same time invest in a proportional thermostat. I personally have the Spyder Robotics Herpstat, but there's other ones as well.

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Maybe I should just take a breather and see how things go for a bit then lol. I'm sitting in the 80s right no and at 57% on the hot end 65% on the cool end. I think I'm just stressing because my other animals are low humidity so I don't have to worry about it. I keep crested geckos as well, but of course they don't need heat so I can just spray them once a day and they sit in the 70-80% range all day and night. I'll keep an eye on it over the long weekend and maybe reevaluate next week.

Thanks so much for all your advice by the way, this forum is fantastic!

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Originally Posted by Hugsplox

Maybe I should just take a breather and see how things go for a bit then lol.

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Yea, don't stress yourself out too much over the humidity. As long as your temps are on point, you're good. Once you see your BP going into shed, you can bump up humidity or put some damp sphagnum moss in his hides and call it a day.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Misha

Yea, don't stress yourself out too much over the humidity. As long as your temps are on point, you're good. Once you see your BP going into shed, you can bump up humidity or put some damp sphagnum moss in his hides and call it a day.

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Yeah I’m of that feeling as well ..

I spray the vivs when I remember but I spray daily if one goes into shed and then as soon as it’s eyes clear and it gets the colour back I up the spraying two or three times daily- 100% perfect sheds each time


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