I need advice about thermometer.

Hello everyone. I have Herpstat for my rack and have the probe in contact under the heat tape. My question is what is a good and affordable thermometer to check the hot spots in each tub. I have two cheap amazon infrared thermometer. A Nubee and etekcity. They are CRAP! Not accurate at all. Anyone have an opinion about thermometers and which one to get. I really don’t want to spend $150 on a fluke if I can help it. Thanks for your time.

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Originally Posted by Jolan4

Hello everyone. I have Herpstat for my rack and have the probe in contact under the heat tape. My question is what is a good and affordable thermometer to check the hot spots in each tub. I have two cheap amazon infrared thermometer. A Nubee and etekcity. They are CRAP! Not accurate at all. Anyone have an opinion about thermometers and which one to get. I really don’t want to spend $150 on a fluke if I can help it. Thanks for your time.

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I use a SensorPush in all my enclosures. I screw it 3” up the wall so it doesnt get pissed on.. thats sends Ambient and Humidity to my Phone screen. Then when ever I need to dial a enclosure in I just set it in the area and leave it for 4 hours monitoring the temp... works like a charm. They are $50 and like I said I have one in every enclosure. I love them.
As far as a Laser, I just use a cheap Lowes one to check a Snakes Body Temp, like you say ive had problems with them for surfaces because ive learned Substrates differ a reading. My Butcher Paper gets false readings in particular. What a surface is made of differs what kind of heat it absorbs and messes up the laser reading.
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Do those SensorPush thermometers keep a history or log, even when you don't actively check the temps?

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Just curious what method you are using to check your thermometer to say that they are both crap? I test mine on the wall right next to my HVAC thermostat. Those are typically very accurate and my cheap infrared is always spot on. I have two thermostats that are identical and one of them is off by 4 or 5 degrees and the other is spot on. So if you are trusting the readout on your thermostat to be accurate it could be wrong. My hot side thermostat probe shows 94-95 degrees when the surface is at 89-90. The cools side sits on 80 and it stays at 80.

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Originally Posted by Charles8088

Do those SensorPush thermometers keep a history or log, even when you don't actively check the temps?

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Yes.

I wrote a review here for them.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ghlight=sensor

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Originally Posted by CALM Pythons

I use a SensorPush in all my enclosures. I screw it 3” up the wall so it doesnt get pissed on.. thats sends Ambient and Humidity to my Phone screen. Then when ever I need to dial a enclosure in I just set it in the area and leave it for 4 hours monitoring the temp... works like a charm. They are $50 and like I said I have one in every enclosure. I love them.
As far as a Laser, I just use a cheap Lowes one to check a Snakes Body Temp, like you say ive had problems with them for surfaces because ive learned Substrates differ a reading. My Butcher Paper gets false readings in particular. What a surface is made of differs what kind of heat it absorbs and messes up the laser reading.
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Are you having problems with the phone app? I checked the reviews and seems that lately people are having problems were the sensor doesn't send information to their phones and they need to keep downloading the app. It seems all the bad reviews I saw are from recent months. I don't ask dakski because he has the gateway, so he might be OK.

I test them with ice water and boiling water. Ice water should be right around 32 degrees F. and boiling should be around 212 degrees F.

Those sensor push things are cool but isn’t that more for ambient temps?

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Originally Posted by Jolan4

I test them with ice water and boiling water. Ice water should be right around 32 degrees F. and boiling should be around 212 degrees F.

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They aren't designed to read liquid temps. And you realize boiling water boils ABOVE 212 too right?

Sorry, but this isn't an accurate test.

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I test them with ice water and boiling water. Ice water should be right around 32 degrees F. and boiling should be around 212 degrees F.

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Those sensor push things are cool but isn’t that more for ambient temps?

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Originally Posted by Craiga 01453

They aren't designed to read liquid temps. And you realize boiling water boils ABOVE 212 too right?

Sorry, but this isn't an accurate test.

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Yes, the sensor push are for ambient temps.

I agree with Craig that's not the best test. Hit your wall thermostat at the same distance you would hit the tank floor and they should be within 1F of each other.

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Originally Posted by Charles8088

Do those SensorPush thermometers keep a history or log, even when you don't actively check the temps?

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Are you having problems with the phone app? I checked the reviews and seems that lately people are having problems were the sensor doesn't send information to their phones and they need to keep downloading the app. It seems all the bad reviews I saw are from recent months. I don't ask dakski because he has the gateway, so he might be OK.

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Never have a problem. Could be what Phone they have. The Iphone app works perfect.


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Originally Posted by Jolan4

Those sensor push things are cool but isn’t that more for ambient temps?

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Yes I have them mounted for ambient, But I have one that I pace around when I am dialing in new enclosures. I will put it under my RHP for example for 24hrs to set hot spot.. then move it to the cool side under the coolside RHP in 8’ enclosures... they are a Object so they heat up to surface temp directly under RHP’s.
Great tool.


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Originally Posted by dakski

Yes, the sensor push are for ambient temps.

I agree with Craig that's not the best test. Hit your wall thermostat at the same distance you would hit the tank floor and they should be within 1F of each other.

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A wall thermostat is not a good way to dial in a laser. The wall thermistat reads ambient, your wall is cooler or warmer depending on if it’s an interior or exterior wall so the laser picks up on that instead. My lasers are off 3-4 degrees from ambient wall thermometers/Tstats and I bought a couple of the best ones I could that were under $100.
Just like myself sometimes we look into things to much. All thermometers are said to be within 1 to 3° off and that will not bother these animals. Sometimes I have to remind myself the weather they live in isnt exact either. Hahahaa


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Originally Posted by Craiga 01453

They aren't designed to read liquid temps. And you realize boiling water boils ABOVE 212 too right?

Sorry, but this isn't an accurate test.

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After doing a little research, it turns out the ice water test IS an accurate test. https://www.thermoworks.com/pdf/IR-G...structions.pdf

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Originally Posted by Craiga 01453

They aren't designed to read liquid temps. And you realize boiling water boils ABOVE 212 too right?

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Old thread...but just gotta put in a word in case folks run across this. Liquid water at normal atmospheric pressures cannot be >212F. The pot can be hotter, but water at sea level cannot be hotter than 212F; above that it becomes steam. Steam can absolutely be hotter than 212F, but at this point it's no longer liquid water, it's a gas. This is why pressure cookers work the way they do.