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Who Is Keeping Locality Boas?
Apologies to the morph crowd, morphs are beautiful and appreciated however I'm interested in seeing animals that represent what Mother Nature created.
I do realize selective breeding will somewhat change the true "Wild Color Patterns" because of breeding the best to the best in captivity.
That said, there are some extremely beautiful wild and captive bred locality boas out there. If you have one post a picture and share the background.
I'll start with my boa, Sniper.
This is a male, Barranquilla, Colombian boa constrictor. He's 7 years old, about 7 feet long and in great condition.
He was bred by Gus Rentfro (Rio Bravo Reptiles) and sold to me via Legacy Reptiles. I bought him in April, 2013 and he was about 9 months old at the time.
https://i.imgur.com/RCPbOMF.jpg
I took these photos last night. It was a cloudy evening.
https://i.imgur.com/9pZyYDm.jpg
Sniper is the only locality animal I own, I enjoy everything about him.
https://i.imgur.com/3RRiJAe.jpg
Feel free to post up your locality BCC or BCI photos in this thread as I'd like to see them.
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Re: Who Is Keeping Locality Boas?
Great thread topic, Gio!
My two locality boas.
1.0 Pokigron Suriname “Leonard” born 3/28/18. Father was a 2013 Gus Renfro holdback that changed hands a couple times, mother also from Rio Bravo bloodlines and produced I believe by Christopher Wolf.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...65c1748c74.jpg
0.1 4th generation Maxx Pink Argentine Boa “Mirabelle” born 8/17/18. Produced by Bob Guerriere at Ancient Reproductions. Technically not a true locality specific animal as we can’t be sure exactly where the original imports were collected within the natural range of this species, but pure BCO nonetheless.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...517f5f3647.jpg
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Re: Who Is Keeping Locality Boas?
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Originally Posted by jmcrook
Great thread topic, Gio!
My two locality boas.
1.0 Pokigron Suriname “Leonard” born 3/28/18. Father was a 2013 Gus Renfro holdback that changed hands a couple times, mother also from Rio Bravo bloodlines and produced I believe by Christopher Wolf.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...65c1748c74.jpg
0.1 4th generation Maxx Pink Argentine Boa “Mirabelle” born 8/17/18. Produced by Bob Guerriere at Ancient Reproductions. Technically not a true locality specific animal as we can’t be sure exactly where the original imports were collected within the natural range of this species, but pure BCO nonetheless.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...517f5f3647.jpg
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Perfect post!
Both animals are very beautiful examples.
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He is stunning gio
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Richard
The double head shot is insane. 👍👏
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Richard
The double head shot is insane. [emoji106][emoji122]
Thanks gio, they wouldn't keep still, lol
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Re: Who Is Keeping Locality Boas?
Great thread!
Feliz, the Dwarf Venezuelan BCC.
As far as I know two people are breeding these guys, here in the US anyway. Tommy Carpenter at TC Reptiles, where I bought Feliz, and I forgot the other breeder, but I can ask if anyone is interested.
He is not a Pokigron Venezuelan Boa, but a "Dwarf" Locale species that probably interbred with BI's over time, but it's not clear. Vin Russo talks about them in his book as separate locale species, as do some other people, who know about them.
Feliz was a holdback for color, but I talked Tommy into selling him to me, as he had a different holdback for pattern.
He's a total sweetheart, but a ferocious eater! There are known for both being gentle, especially for smaller boas, and being great eaters like all boas.
He will be two years old in September and weighs in at about 330G now. He should not be over 5FT when full grown. He is also a Rio Bravo line animal.
The first two pictures are recent, but the last two are from a few months ago.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/3W8Cs7R.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/QZQJjH8.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/ZOE2nFQ.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/T4wl0Fs.jpg
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Re: Who Is Keeping Locality Boas?
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Originally Posted by dakski
Great thread!
Feliz, the Dwarf Venezuelan BCC.
As far as I know two people are breeding these guys, here in the US anyway. Tommy Carpenter at TC Reptiles, where I bought Feliz, and I forgot the other breeder, but I can ask if anyone is interested.
He is not a Pokigron Venezuelan Boa, but a "Dwarf" Locale species that probably interbred with BI's over time, but it's not clear. Vin Russo talks about them in his book as separate locale species, as do some other people, who know about them.
Feliz was a holdback for color, but I talked Tommy into selling him to me, as he had a different holdback for pattern.
He's a total sweetheart, but a ferocious eater! There are known for both being gentle, especially for smaller boas, and being great eaters like all boas.
He will be two years old in September and weighs in at about 330G now. He should not be over 5FT when full grown. He is also a Rio Bravo line animal.
The first two pictures are recent, but the last two are from a few months ago.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/3W8Cs7R.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/QZQJjH8.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/ZOE2nFQ.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/T4wl0Fs.jpg
Beautiful!,
And great background info as well.
That is a unique animal.
Pokigron is in Suriname, not Venezuela so there should be no confusion there. I'd be surprised if Gus did any crossing with BCI and BCC animals. Vin maybe would as he isn't strictly a locality breeder.
Tommy Carpenter is a very good breeder and is one of few that breeds the Barranquilla, Colombian boas like the one I have.
You have a lovely snake and I think it is a perfect addition to this thread!
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Originally Posted by Gio
Beautiful!,
And great background info as well.
That is a unique animal.
Pokigron is in Suriname, not Venezuela so there should be no confusion there. I'd be surprised if Gus did any crossing with BCI and BCC animals. Vin maybe would as he isn't strictly a locality breeder.
Tommy Carpenter is a very good breeder and is one of few that breeds the Barranquilla, Colombian boas like the one I have.
You have a lovely snake and I think it is a perfect addition to this thread!
Thanks Gio!
I think I made a mistake and confused Pokigron with another type of BCC from Venezuela that are not a dwarf species. I cannot remember what they are called and apologize for my lack of knowledge here, I am still learning about localities.
Gus didn't cross. Because of their size, the thought is through history, they probably bred with smaller locale BI's at some point and that's why the males are 4-5FT and females max out about 6FT, unlike many BCC's that can get large.
Again, sorry I misspoke. Thank you for the correction and I am glad I can clarify.
Yeah, I cannot say enough about Tommy. He's an awesome guy and we stay in touch and I send pictures of Feliz.
EDIT: Paraguanera Venezuelan Boas is what everyone seems to think I have. Feliz, however, is not one, he is a different Locale Species from Venezuela.
https://www.facebook.com/CuttingEdge...6801221121339/
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Originally Posted by dakski
Thanks Gio!
I think I made a mistake and confused Pokigron with another type of BCC from Venezuela that are not a dwarf species. I cannot remember what they are called and apologize for my lack of knowledge here, I am still learning about localities.
Gus didn't cross. Because of their size, the thought is through history, they probably bred with smaller locale BI's at some point and that's why the males are 4-5FT and females max out about 6FT, unlike many BCC's that can get large.
Again, sorry I misspoke. Thank you for the correction and I am glad I can clarify.
Yeah, I cannot say enough about Tommy. He's an awesome guy and we stay in touch and I send pictures of Feliz.
EDIT: Paraguanera Venezuelan Boas is what everyone seems to think I have. Feliz, however, is not one, he is a different Locale Species from Venezuela.
https://www.facebook.com/CuttingEdge...6801221121339/
The confusion may be because Pokigron Suris are one of the smaller Suri boas.
They have been described as "dwarf" BCC boas by a German Locality breeder.
My friend has 2 Rio Bravo Pokis and the female is a 7 footer at a fairly advanced age.
Sauzo and JMCROOK both have the amazing Poki Locale.
The boa you have is probably closely related to mine.
The Barranquilla, Colombian has traits of both BCC and BCI. Only because Gus was not 100% certain the Colombians he had were not BCC, he called them BCI.
Locality animals are special!
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Originally Posted by Gio
The confusion may be because Pokigron Suris are one of the smaller Suri boas.
They have been described as "dwarf" BCC boas by a German Locality breeder.
My friend has 2 Rio Bravo Pokis and the female is a 7 footer at a fairly advanced age.
Sauzo and JMCROOK both have the amazing Poki Locale.
The boa you have is probably closely related to mine.
The Barranquilla, Colombian has traits of both BCC and BCI. Only because Gus was not 100% certain the Colombians he had were not BCC, he called them BCI.
Locality animals are special!
That is really interesting in all counts.
Thank you for the info.
I love both Feliz and Behira (my ghost BI female). I regret getting into boas so late, but also couldn’t be happier with my two. Different personalities, but both sweet and awesome animals.
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Originally Posted by Gio
The confusion may be because Pokigron Suris are one of the smaller Suri boas.
They have been described as "dwarf" BCC boas by a German Locality breeder.
My friend has 2 Rio Bravo Pokis and the female is a 7 footer at a fairly advanced age.
Sauzo and JMCROOK both have the amazing Poki Locale.
The boa you have is probably closely related to mine.
The Barranquilla, Colombian has traits of both BCC and BCI. Only because Gus was not 100% certain the Colombians he had were not BCC, he called them BCI.
Locality animals are special!
Cutting edge herps just had a litter of baranquilla born today was on his Instagram story this morning
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Everybody on this thread has some truly lovely boas! They all seem so healthy and content. This and the other locality threads are quite wonderful, and they've lead me to some great reading about the different localities and their ecology. Thanks to all of you who've been posting about your locality boas!
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Great collection of little stunners there chip07
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Very nice collection of boas!
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I’m awaiting the shipment of a San Felipe’s Ghost Rosy Boa, idk if it’s considered a BCC or BCI or not but all I know is it’s a locality. I’m very excited to receive my baby next month.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...44604b0d6a.jpg the photo is just a stock photo till Ryan sends me my Boa baby. Then there will be more photos to follow.
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I’m awaiting the shipment of a San Felipe’s Ghost Rosy Boa, idk if it’s considered a BCC or BCI or not but all I know is it’s a locality. I’m very excited to receive my baby next month. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...44604b0d6a.jpg the photo is just a stock photo till Ryan sends me my Boa baby. Then there will be more photos to follow.
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Very nice indeed, I've always admires these locality boas
Rosie boas don't have the normal boa Latin name, I found this, after I googled it, I always wondered what it was https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7799ac2195.jpg
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Are they considered BCC or BCI’s I’m still new to the boa thing? I’m very happy to be getting one of these. When I went to buy my first BP I saw a Rosy in the pet store and have wanted one every since. That was over 6 years ago. This will be my very first boa :)
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Are they considered BCC or BCI’s I’m still new to the boa thing? I’m very happy to be getting one of these. When I went to buy my first BP I saw a Rosy in the pet store and have wanted one every since. That was over 6 years ago. This will be my very first boa :)
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Neither. They are Lt, Lichanura trivirgata. BCC (Boa constrictor constrictor) and BCI (Boa constrictor imperator) are just abbreviations of their respective latin names.
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Neither. They are Lt, Lichanura trivirgata. BCC (Boa constrictor constrictor) and BCI (Boa constrictor imperator) are just abbreviations of their respective latin names.
Thank you, that explained everything perfectly, I have been looking for the meaning of both lol
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