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  • 04-28-2019, 03:00 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    So according to the chart, Gargamel should be eating approximately 100 g per feeding. Since I have frozen fuzzies, I was going to try and use them up first before buying rats. That being said, I should feed him more than one at a time. How long between fuzzies should I wait to offer another?

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  • 04-28-2019, 03:06 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Feeding Multiple Fuzzies.
    According to the chart, Gargamel should be eating around 20 g per feeding. Seeing as I have already bought frozen mouse fuzzies, I would like to use them up before I buy frozen rats. How long should I wait to try and feed a second fuzzy after the first is taken?

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  • 04-28-2019, 03:06 PM
    Bogertophis
    Some snakes will eat multiple prey items & others will quit after one. No way to know if yours will until you try, but if I were you, I'd thaw a couple to have
    them ready, immediately one after another. You don't want to leave much time between prey items, as it's harder for them to digest that way & can result in
    a regurge, when undigested is added to partially-digested stuff. If Gargamel is a fairly bold feeder, hopefully he'll keep going. Optimal time is usually evening,
    & most BPs feel safer when peeking out of their hides ("ambush predators"), & if the room lighting is dim, that too can help. Reduce commotion too (others in
    room etc).
  • 04-28-2019, 03:08 PM
    Bogertophis
    oops? duplicate post?
  • 04-28-2019, 03:10 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    That is exactly my problem. last week was my first successful feeding and he would not take it from me. I had to drop feed it. He did not take it until after I went to bed so I may just drop to in there at once for him. Do you think that would be okay?

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  • 04-28-2019, 03:10 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Re: Feeding Multiple Fuzzies.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    oops? duplicate post?

    Yes my phone would not update and it did not show so I reposted. Is there a way to delete this one?

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  • 04-28-2019, 03:36 PM
    Bogertophis
    Not sure, I just "reported" it as a duplicate post, we'll see if mods catch it?
  • 04-28-2019, 03:37 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by indygunnerguy View Post
    That is exactly my problem. last week was my first successful feeding and he would not take it from me. I had to drop feed it. He did not take it until after I went to bed so I may just drop to in there at once for him. Do you think that would be okay?

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    Sure. All you can do is try...see if he takes two, & if he does, maybe 3 is worth trying? Snakes will be snakes...:D

    I'm very "spoiled" by my colubrids...taking prey right from the tongs... (don't hate me, lol)
  • 04-28-2019, 03:50 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Hopefully we are talking rats here and not fuzzy mice ??




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  • 04-28-2019, 03:54 PM
    pretends2bnormal
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Hopefully we are talking rats here and not fuzzy mice ??




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    The duplicate thread said fuzzy mice, I think.

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  • 04-28-2019, 03:56 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Hopefully we are talking rats here and not fuzzy mice ?? ....

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by indygunnerguy View Post
    ... I was going to try and use them up first before buying rats...

    Pretty safe bet we're talking about mice...:confusd: But never hurts to make sure...
  • 04-28-2019, 03:59 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by indygunnerguy View Post
    So according to the chart, Gargamel should be eating approximately 100 g per feeding. Since I have frozen fuzzies, I was going to try and use them up first before buying rats. That being said, I should feed him more than one at a time. How long betwee&n fuzzies should I wait to offer another?

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    Based on the pic of your snake https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-Meet-Gargamel!! what is highlighted is physically IMPOSSIBLE, even a large adult Male would not need a 100 gram rat, 85 at most.

    Your snake at this time need a prey no bigger than it's girth size.
  • 04-28-2019, 04:03 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Threads have been merged there is no need for multiple identical threads.

    Thank you.
  • 04-28-2019, 04:27 PM
    gunkle
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Based on the pic of your snake https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-Meet-Gargamel!! what is highlighted is physically IMPOSSIBLE, even a large adult Male would not need a 100 gram rat, 85 at most.

    Your snake at this time need a prey no bigger than it's girth size.

    Wow. Yeah. I second that. I think you did something wrong in your math to come up with 100g for that little cutie. How much does he weight? As a helpful idea some recommend 10 - 15% of body weight of the snake. So take the weight of snake X .10 and weight of snake X .15 and feed something weighting in that vicinity. Also going by the girth as Deborah states. Your snake would have to be 1000g or so to need a meal that size.
  • 04-28-2019, 05:02 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Pretty safe bet we're talking about mice...:confusd: But never hurts to make sure...

    Yeah they are fuzzy mice.

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  • 04-28-2019, 05:05 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gunkle View Post
    Wow. Yeah. I second that. I think you did something wrong in your math to come up with 100g for that little cutie. How much does he weight? As a helpful idea some recommend 10 - 15% of body weight of the snake. So take the weight of snake X .10 and weight of snake X .15 and feed something weighting in that vicinity. Also going by the girth as Deborah states. Your snake would have to be 1000g or so to need a meal that size.

    Yes sorry it is 10-16 g. I was using my phone and it auto-corrected to 100. This is the chart I was referring to...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...020f87ab3b.jpg

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  • 04-28-2019, 05:30 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    I’ve never had very young Royals but always thought that they started out on small mice and never anything smaller ??


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  • 04-28-2019, 05:32 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I’ve never had very young Royals but always thought that they started out on small mice and never anything smaller ??


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    Yeah I found that out about a week after I bought him. This is my first and I didn't know any better lol. I bought this from a pet store and that's what they said they've been feeding him. I've learned a lot from the forum in the last couple of weeks that's for sure!

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  • 04-28-2019, 07:46 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by indygunnerguy View Post
    Yeah I found that out about a week after I bought him. This is my first and I didn't know any better lol. I bought this from a pet store and that's what they said they've been feeding him. I've learned a lot from the forum in the last couple of weeks that's for sure!

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    That's why we're here...pet stores often under-feed their snakes: it saves them $ but mostly they don't want the snakes out-growing the little display cages they have
    them in...and they also know most buyers prefer to buy young (small) snakes, just like puppies & kittens are typically considered cuter, versus adult dogs & cats.

    FYI- ball pythons have fairly big heads & relatively wide bodies, so hopper mice (small, eyes open, just weaned) are the appropriate size prey even for hatchling BPs.
    Unless you can get them to take comparably-sized rat fuzzies (eyes closed). The only hitch with hopper mice is that with eyes open, they may bite back...and many
    snakes won't start off feeding on f/t, in which case fuzzies (eyes closed, either rats or mice) are the safer choice. Hopper mice (live) can be also quite active, & many
    BPs may hesitate to take them, especially for a first feeding, but you never know. Their instincts are to eat, but in the wild they presumably don't have humans hanging
    about watching & making them nervous either.
  • 04-28-2019, 07:50 PM
    indygunnerguy
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    That's why we're here...pet stores often under-feed their snakes: it saves them $ but mostly they don't want the snakes out-growing the little display cages they have
    them in...and they also know most buyers prefer to buy young (small) snakes, just like puppies & kittens are typically considered cuter, versus adult dogs & cats.

    FYI- ball pythons have fairly big heads & relatively wide bodies, so hopper mice (small, eyes open, just weaned) are the appropriate size prey even for hatchling BPs.
    Unless you can get them to take comparably-sized rat fuzzies (eyes closed). The only hitch with hopper mice is that with eyes open, they may bite back...and many
    snakes won't start off feeding on f/t, in which case fuzzies (eyes closed, either rats or mice) are the safer choice. Hopper mice (live) can be also quite active, & many
    BPs may hesitate to take them, especially for a first feeding, but you never know. Their instincts are to eat, but in the wild they presumably don't have humans hanging
    about watching & making them nervous either.

    Thankfully it doesn't look like he's malnurished. I'm going to try to feed him two f/t mouse fuzzies tonight and see how it goes [emoji1694]

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  • 04-28-2019, 08:15 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Feeding More Than One Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by indygunnerguy View Post
    Yeah I found that out about a week after I bought him. This is my first and I didn't know any better lol. I bought this from a pet store and that's what they said they've been feeding him. I've learned a lot from the forum in the last couple of weeks that's for sure!

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    Ahh

    Well good luck and welcome to the snake addiction :)


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