PETA Calls For An Investigation

so there's a movie filming in AL and the crew decapitated and killed a snake while clearing the brush. the snake was just minding it's own business and i don't agree w/ how they handled the situation. another member of the crew or someone blew the whistle and now PETA is investigating.

story here: https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2...n-alabama.html

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PETA calls for probe after snake killed during filming of Netflix movie in Alabama

The supposed decapitation of a snake during the filming of a movie at Oak Mountain State Park has drawn the ire of PETA, which is calling for investigations by police and conservation enforcers.

The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has sent letters to the Pelham Police Department and the Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources requesting they look into the matter.

According to PETA, they received a report last week that the reptilian slaying happened when crew members of Netflix’s “The Devil All the Time” encountered a snake with red markings – possibly a species of the nonvenomous king snake – while moving rocks in order to prepare a path for foot traffic. “After reporting the presence of the snake to the assistant director Brian Bettwy, the snake was decapitated,’’ according to a letter written by PETA lawyer David Schwartz.

A “whistleblower” tipped off PETA, the organization said. “According to the report, the snake was not posing a threat to, or otherwise manifesting signs of preparing to strike, any member of the film crew during and after the snake’s discovery,’’ Schwartz wrote.

He went on to say no snake handler was present on the set, which is a common practice in the industry when filming in areas where snakes might be encountered. Also, he said, no attempt was made by anyone with the production company to contact a park ranger, state wildlife officer or any other person with authority to handle wildlife before the snake was decapitated.

PETA claims the decapitation of the snake violates regulations pertaining to state parks, which designate each state park as a game and wildlife sanctuary and make it “unlawful for any person to…kill…any wild animal” in any state park.

The American Veterinary Medical Association, according to PETA, does not consider decapitation without the use of an anesthetic prior to decapitation, and without the immediate destruction of the brain after decapitation. Snake “have a slow metabolism and high tolerance to hypoxia. As a result, the brain and other parts of the nervous system can continue to function – and thus the animal remains sensible to pain – for up to one hour after decapitation unless the brain is immediately destroyed. Such a procedure requires expertise and dexterity which cannot be acquired or adequately carried out by laypersons.”

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and here: https://patch.com/alabama/pelham-al/...-netflix-movie

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PETA Wants Probe In Killing Of Snake On Set Of Netflix Movie

PETA is demanding a probe into the reported killing of a snake during the filming of a Netflix movie in Alabama.

PELHAM, AL - The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants an investigation into the reported killing of a snake during the filming of a Netflix movie in Pelham. A whistleblower has reported to PETA that a snake was deliberately killed on the set of the movie The Devil All the Time, which is currently being filmed in Oak Mountain State Park.

PETA sent a letter calling on the Pelham Police Department to investigate the incident to see whether Alabama's Cruelty to Animals Law was violated. PETA has also notified Alabama's Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, as the snake was reportedly killed within a state park.

According to the whistleblower—who contacted PETA's Animals in Film and Television Division whistleblower hotline—there was no snake wrangler on location and the animal posed no threat to the cast or crew before being decapitated. "Decapitation is an extremely cruel method of killing snakes because due to their unique physiology, a snake can remain sensible to pain for up to one hour after their head is severed from the body," PETA said in a release.

Earlier this week, PETA sent a letter to the film's director, Antonio Campos, asking for more information about the incident, but the group has received no answer, according to a PETA statement.

"We were told that this snake was simply in his or her natural habitat—under a rock, doing what snakes do—when someone reportedly came along, moved the rock, and killed the wild animal just for being there," said PETA Senior Vice President Lisa Lange. "PETA is asking anyone with more information about this incident to contact our whistleblower hotline."

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Humans really do suck sometimes.

Happens WAY too often...:tears: ......glad it was reported though. :taz::mad:

Flame suit on, because some aren't going to like this, but its the reality of the situation. I live in Alabama. This happened in a very rural area where care for a snake bite would have been minimal at best. We have coral stakes here and king snakes that mimic them. Honestly, If I didn't know which one I had on my hands I would probably have killed it as well (I am capable of telling the difference but someone not from here may not be), given that they have a large amount of people who don't know the area or the wildlife tromping through the woods. It was just too dangerous to leave it and hope it went away if it was venomous. Based on my experience with them, they don't scare easily. It would still have been in the area and its likely someone would have gotten bitten. In this case, the people take precedence.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

Flame suit on, because some aren't going to like this, but its the reality of the situation. I live in Alabama. This happened in a very rural area where care for a snake bite would have been minimal at best. We have coral stakes here and king snakes that mimic them. Honestly, If I didn't know which one I had on my hands I would probably have killed it as well (I am capable of telling the difference but someone not from here may not be), given that they have a large amount of people who don't know the area or the wildlife tromping through the woods. It was just too dangerous to leave it and hope it went away if it was venomous. Based on my experience with them, they don't scare easily. It would still have been in the area and its likely someone would have gotten bitten. In this case, the people take precedence.

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So while walking downtown u see a person and u can't tell if they're a serial killer or just a regular average Joe, but to keep urself safe u kill them anyway?

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Originally Posted by Toad37

So while walking downtown u see a person and u can't tell if they're a serial killer or just a regular average Joe, but to keep urself safe u kill them anyway?

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A ridiculous comparison and you know that. Would be ok if your boss chose allow a known venomous snake to remain loose in your worksite, and hope it didn't bite someone? That's basically what this situation was. The staff had a responsibility for the safety of their employees.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

A ridiculous comparison and you know that. Would be ok if your boss chose allow a known venomous snake to remain loose in your worksite, and hope it didn't bite someone? That's basically what this situation was. The staff had a responsibility for the safety of their employees.

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From the sound of it, their true responsibility to their workers and crew was to have a snake handler (which is stated as standard in the industry) at the worksite to deal with relocating it far enough away to not pose a risk to the crew & make a positive ID if it were venomous and if further action may have been needed at that point. It was not their responsibility for someone not there or trained for the purpose to kill it before anyone even took the time to seek out the appropriate ID & legal guidance for a snake that was stated as not acting defensive and not striking at the time of its death.

In most places, killing a wild snake like this is illegal regardless of if it is venomous.

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Originally Posted by pretends2bnormal

From the sound of it, their true responsibility to their workers and crew was to have a snake handler (which is stated as standard in the industry) at the worksite to deal with relocating it far enough away to not pose a risk to the crew & make a positive ID if it were venomous and if further action may have been needed at that point. It was not their responsibility for someone not there or trained for the purpose to kill it before anyone even took the time to seek out the appropriate ID & legal guidance for a snake that was stated as not acting defensive and not striking at the time of its death.

In most places, killing a wild snake like this is illegal regardless of if it is venomous.

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Actually, it isn't illegal in this state. They are considered nuisance animals. I am not going to argue. I have said what i think, based on what I know about the area, and the situation. Given the remote location, limited access to medical care, ect I would have done the same. It was really the only option they had to ensure the safety of the crew. It is ridiculous to expect they would employ a snake handler on the off chance the MIGHT see a snake and need it removed. That's like saying I should have my doctor on hand every second just in case i have a heart attack.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

Actually, it isn't illegal in this state. They are considered nuisance animals. I am not going to argue. I have said what i think, based on what I know about the area, and the situation. Given the remote location, limited access to medical care, ect I would have done the same. It was really the only option they had to ensure the safety of the crew. It is ridiculous to expect they would employ a snake handler on the off chance the MIGHT see a snake and need it removed. That's like saying I should have my doctor on hand every second just in case i have a heart attack.

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No it's like saying if you were trying to get pregnant, you should have a obgyn because it's the responsible thing to do. In their profession they know they might encounter venomous snakes because of where they're filming. It's the same as if you were planning to conceive a baby, it would be irresponsible not to have an ob Dr because you know what could happen. It's not apples to oranges here. It's the reality of being an adult and a responsible and respectful human being.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

Actually, it isn't illegal in this state. They are considered nuisance animals. I am not going to argue. I have said what i think, based on what I know about the area, and the situation. Given the remote location, limited access to medical care, ect I would have done the same. It was really the only option they had to ensure the safety of the crew. It is ridiculous to expect they would employ a snake handler on the off chance the MIGHT see a snake and need it removed. That's like saying I should have my doctor on hand every second just in case i have a heart attack.

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Anyone with any respect for wildlife can manage to move a snake into a tall plastic trash-can with a snake hook, & take it far enough away to be sure of not seeing it again.

Remember that they were working in the snake's home, it wasn't invading theirs. Standard practice & common sense dictated they were obliged to have an experienced
person on site for any wildlife encounters...it's attitudes like theirs (& yours) that will push our wildlife to extinction.

Whether it's for people or animals, I'm not a fan of "stand your ground" laws, because in reality, they're nothing but a "free pass" to kill others.

I don’t know a single person that doesn’t know the old saying. Red against black well who cares leave it alone and it won’t bite u!!

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Anyone with any respect for wildlife can manage to move a snake into a tall plastic trash-can with a snake hook, & take it far enough away to be sure of not seeing it again.

Remember that they were working in the snake's home, it wasn't invading theirs. Standard practice & common sense dictated they were obliged to have an experienced
person on site for any wildlife encounters...it's attitudes like theirs (& yours) that will push our wildlife to extinction.

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I wouldn't have attempted to move a potentially deadly snake. Like it or not, it's the practical reality of life in a rural area. Sometimes its necessary to kill a snake for your own safety or the safety of someone else. These snakes aren't going extinct any time soon. They are thriving. We will just have to disagree on this.

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Originally Posted by Toad37

No it's like saying if you were trying to get pregnant, you should have a obgyn because it's the responsible thing to do. In their profession they know they might encounter venomous snakes because of where they're filming. It's the same as if you were planning to conceive a baby, it would be irresponsible not to have an ob Dr because you know what could happen. It's not apples to oranges here. It's the reality of being an adult and a responsible and respectful human being.

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No, it isn't reasonable to expect that they would need a snake handler where they were filming. Have you ever been there? I have and I know the area. This wasn't at all a likely occurrence. It isn't crawling with snakes, far from it. They really should have been fine. This was a chance encounter that no one would have reasonably foreseen. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Originally Posted by Danger noodles

I don’t know a single person that doesn’t know the old saying. Red against black well who cares leave it alone and it won’t bite u!!

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In the reptile community or thse who live in the area sure, but an LA film crew who have probably never even been in the woods? not likely

No bubbles bursted here. My morals are perfectly intact inside their bubble.


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What happened here tho?:confusd:

I was going to say, its my understanding that coral snakes are not highly aggressive. Bites from coral snake are rare and often require someone to step on them barefoot or attempt to handle them bare handed. Since 1967 there appear to be two cases of death from coral snake bites- one of which the man didn't seek treatment. (http://thevenominterviews.com/2016/0...-coral-snakes/)


So killing a snake because you can't ID it... let's face it attacking the animal is putting the people at a much larger risk then leaving it alone. Its a bad tradition built on fear, not one built on logic. We have that out here with people and rattlesnakes. Everyone seems to think killing a rattlesnake is a public service to protect others.
All they end up doing is breaking the law and putting themselves at risk for a painful snake bite.

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Originally Posted by Timelugia

I was going to say, its my understanding that coral snakes are not highly aggressive. Bites from coral snake are rare and often require someone to step on them barefoot or attempt to handle them bare handed. Since 1967 there appear to be two cases of death from coral snake bites- one of which the man didn't seek treatment. (http://thevenominterviews.com/2016/0...-coral-snakes/)


So killing a snake because you can't ID it... let's face it attacking the animal is putting the people at a much larger risk then leaving it alone. Its a bad tradition built on fear, not one built on logic. We have that out here with people and rattlesnakes. Everyone seems to think killing a rattlesnake is a public service to protect others.
All they end up doing is breaking the law and putting themselves at risk for a painful snake bite.

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I have had some experience encountering coral snakes that runs contrary to this, a fair amount actually. One actually chased me once.

I can see your point about endangering oneself, but when you are dealing with an aggressive snake that is unlikely to back down and slither off, which has been my experience with corals in the area, it’s a different situation.

Look, it’s ok if you don’t agree with me, all I am saying is that I have actual experience in the area and I can see how it would be warranted based on what I know. It isn’t popular, but its my experience.


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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

Humans really do suck sometimes.

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I say that ALL the time. It's sad, but true.

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Originally Posted by Danger noodles

I don’t know a single person that doesn’t know the old saying. Red against black well who cares leave it alone and it won’t bite u!!

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The exact saying words vary a bit, but the idea is: red touching yellow can kill a fellow, red touching black is a friend to Jack...

The trouble is that if you follow that rule, you're likely to be killing a harmless shovelnose or Western (or Texas) longnose snake, since coral snakes are adept at hiding,
and even IF you find one, they are so small as to have a hard time getting a hold of you for envenomation to occur. Coral snakes are in the elapid family & have serious
venom, but their fixed front fangs are weak & small, & non-retractable. You'd mostly need to try hard (pick up, or step on with bare feet) to get bit. Unlike a rattlesnake,
their fangs cannot swing forward to envenomate a flat surface (like your leg) even with their mouth open wide- they must get their mouth around their prey to be effective.
According to livescience.com, it's hard enough for them to get their teeth into human skin, much less leather boots. Some of them would rather hide their head & produce
microfarts to scare off predators...boy, that takes a real macho person to kill one, doesn't it? How pathetic...

https://www.livescience.com/43938-co...rts-facts.html

Could everyone just learn to walk away & stop killing our wildlife please??? If you're that freaking afraid, you belong living in a freaking city.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

I have had some experience encountering coral snakes that runs contrary to this, a fair amount actually. One actually chased me once.

I can see your point about endangering oneself, but when you are dealing with an aggressive snake that is unlikely to back down and slither off, which has been my experience with corals in the area, it’s a different situation.

Look, it’s ok if you don’t agree with me, all I am saying is that I have actual experience in the area and I can see how it would be warranted based on what I know. It isn’t popular, but its my experience.


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It's not so much that I don't agree with you...I don't even believe you. If it chased you, it wasn't a coral snake. Few snakes act aggressively. I've seen a coachwhip
come towards me (& have heard the same from others) but few snakes like to tangle with humans at all...at least in this country. BTW, coachwhips are harmless, &
that one was being mobbed by birds until I chased off the birds...so he was in a panic when I got there & didn't realize I was helping him. I did not get bit...I walked
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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

It's not so much that I don't agree with you...I don't even believe you. If it chased you, it wasn't a coral snake. Few snakes act aggressively. I've seen a coachwhip
come towards me (& have heard the same from others) but few snakes like to tangle with humans at all...at least in this country. BTW, coachwhips are harmless, &
that one was being mobbed by birds until I chased off the birds...so he was in a panic when I got there & didn't realize I was helping him. I did not get bit...I walked
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Believe what you want. I have been chased by the coral and by a cottonmouth.


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Let me preface this with I live in the south and I live in the country (obviously not born or raised here), I love the people here but….when you are in the south and talk to country people the amount of ignorance is pretty mind-blowing, mention a snake to a southern country person and they will tell you “a good snake is a dead snake”, it’s not just old people either, it’s such an issue in GA they have been pleading for people not to kill snakes having to explain to them because most of the time they actually kill good snakes that eats the bad ones, even simplify to that level they still think a good snake is a dead one.

I am sure the religious upbringing in combination with teaching your kids that you should fear certain animals does not help.

Should you fear some animals? Yes, should you kill them? I wouldn’t, you see a snake just walk away it’s that simple, if it’s in your barn or house, move away from the area call someone to relocate the animal.

Here sadly it’s cut it’s head off, or run over it with your car 10 times or decapitate it and ask questions later, and most of the time they kill non venomous snakes and those are usually the same people that will brag about it on social media thinking it’s makes them look like bad asses.
Sad but true.

As for PETA investigating animal cruelty it's like the pot calling the kettle black.

The PETA article started this conversation, but I EXPECT better of members here...of people who understand & like snakes...c'mon folks, we have to lead &
educate! If not us...who???

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

Believe what you want. I have been chased by the coral and by a cottonmouth...

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While I can't say I've experienced being chased by a cottonmouth, I've heard that from so many that I'll rate that as a "maybe so"?
Either way, they come off as "cranky", but this discussion was about coral snakes, & I did say "few" snakes come off as aggressive.
The thing is, when people are terrified of snakes, it doesn't take much to convince them they are being "chased". :rolleyes: I'd love some
actual statistics of how many were actually "caught" by those snakes, lol. Remember, you aren't glued to the ground...just walk away!

I like finding timber rattlers around here. Most locals freak out, scream and shoot it. I just go observe like a nature documentary, until the Rattlesnake gets abboyoed by my presence and leaves. (They always leave, if unprovoked)
The people that attack and provoke them are more likely to get bit, than a casual peaceful observer.
But we as snake keepers know that, and most do not.


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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

The PETA article started this conversation, but I EXPECT better of members here...of people who understand & like snakes...c'mon folks, we have to lead &
educate! If not us...who???



While I can't say I've experienced being chased by a cottonmouth, I've heard that from so many that I'll rate that as a "maybe so"?
Either way, they come off as "cranky", but this discussion was about coral snakes, & I did say "few" snakes come off as aggressive.
The thing is, when people are terrified of snakes, it doesn't take much to convince them they are being "chased". :rolleyes: I'd love some
actual statistics of how many were actually "caught" by those snakes, lol. Remember, you aren't glued to the ground...just walk away!

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Do you have any idea how fast a cottomouth can move? You don't "walk" away, thats for sure. I am not and have never been afraid of snakes. I am the first one advocating for leaving the rat snake alone to catch rats. I do have a healthy respect for venomous ones, however, and when a venomous snake is a threat to people something needs to be done. I know you would say they are never a treat to people, but I would beg to differ. Humans and venomous snakes occupying the same immediate area is a recipe for disaster.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

Do you have any idea how fast a cottomouth can move? ..... I know you would say they are never a treat to people, but I would
beg to differ. Humans and venomous snakes occupying the same immediate area is a recipe for disaster.

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Yes, I do, & I think you mean "threat"? :D Then stay out of their area...didn't you ever learn to share? A planet covered with nothing but humans is not a pretty sight,
nor is it viable. We need a balance of nature & the whole web of living creatures of all shapes & sizes, trust me. It's the mass production of humans that is making a
mess of things...wildlife pretty much keeps itself in balance when humans don't muck it up & try to claim the entire territory as their own back yard. :snake: The native
Americans figured that out, but look what "we" did to them...

When humans kill off certain species, it upsets the balance & then other things proliferate in a negative way. If you fancy living in a perfectly paved over 'safe' world,
there are plenty of cities to choose from. But I think you'll soon find that some % of humans pose far more danger than a few venomous snakes...;)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Yes, I do, & I think you mean "threat"? :D Then stay out of their area...didn't you ever learn to share? A planet covered with nothing but humans is not a pretty sight,
nor is it viable. We need a balance of nature & the whole web of living creatures of all shapes & sizes, trust me. It's the mass production of humans that is making a
mess of things...wildlife pretty much keeps itself in balance when humans don't muck it up & try to claim the entire territory as their own back yard. :snake: The native
Americans figured that out, but look what "we" did to them...

When humans kill off certain species, it upsets the balance & then other things proliferate in a negative way. If you fancy living in a perfectly paved over 'safe' world,
there are plenty of cities to choose from. But I think you'll soon find that some % of humans pose far more danger than a few venomous snakes...;)

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You do realize correcting other's typos and grammar is a little petty?
So when a a rattlesnake chooses to nest in my yard(happened to us), I should just move, or not worry about whether my young children will get bitten? That is ridiculous.

What's petty is you keep going on and on about a repressed childhood memory of an imaginary snake chasing you. We get it. Let's move on with our lives.

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Originally Posted by Toad37

What's petty is you keep going on and on about a repressed childhood memory of an imaginary snake chasing you. We get it. Let's move on with our lives.

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Not a repressed memory, I remember it just fine, always have. Nothing "imaginary" about it. Real snakes on both occasions i was chased and real snakes breeding in our front yard. One incident I was a young teen and the other a young adult so not really "childhood"' either.

I realize it makes you guys feel better to believe it didn't happen and that conflicts between humans and reptiles don't happen unless humans provoke or mistreat them, but that just isn't the case. Yes, leaving the area is the asnwer most of the time, but not always. Sometimes that simply isn't possible. We had a 4 year old at home when there was a den of rattlesnakes about 30 ft from our door. That was simply NOT a safe situation. I have had many encounters with reptiles over the course of my life, and I have only ever had to kill the one who wouldn't stop coming back to the den in the yard. It just wasn't safe for the children. Sorry, but I am not willing to risk the life of a child for a one stubborn snake. I am just saying that I can see how it might have been necessary in this situation, and it often is in others. I would be happy to move on if you guys could quit accusing me of lying.

I know a guy in a GA reptile group (on FB) that actually clears sites of snakes and is a snake wrangler as his profession. I think he works sites in GA for the film industry, not sure about AL though. He told the group once that he is the first one in and the last one out and has to clear all venomous snakes and then relocate or put them back when they finish. So I do think it is standard practice in the industry to have such a person on site when working rural areas... In that regard, yes, the crew screwed up.

That said, I can totally relate to Reptilemom25's point. If I was in charge of the safety of a crew and had no idea what kind of snake I had just found, then I can see them killing it fearing for the crew's safety. Were there better ways to handle the situation? Yes, of course, but the reality is that didn't happen and someone had to go on their "best judgement". For a person that probably had zero knowledge of snakes and was likely from the city, that "best judgement" was not what most of us would have done but I don't think we should virtually crucify them for it.

I live in GA and was raised in a religious family here, so I don't think the irrational fear of snakes has anything to do with geography or religion. I believe it is more about what is learned directly from parents and close relatives when young. I would hazard that if you polled the same number of northern "city slickers" and southern "red necks" most would probably lean on the side of killing any snake they find. It is sad that this is our reality, but better education about wildlife will hopefully help the situation improve.

There have been many cases of untrained people trying to move venomous snakes and ending up getting bitten, so I'd say that if one hasn't had venomous handling training, it is better to leave the snake alone or call someone to move it. If you are in a really rural area without access to someone to help, then that becomes a very tough decision to make if the snake is, say, inside your house... I have luckily not been in that situaion myself, so I will not pass judgement on someone who has.

Lastly, to GA residents, I think the GA reptile society hosted venomous snake traning sessions earlier this year. I am not sure if they will be doing them again at some point, but it might be worth checking out if you are interested in learning how to safely relocate venomous. Other state's herp societies might also have similar training available.

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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

Not a repressed memory, I remember it just fine, always have. Nothing "imaginary" about it. Real snakes on both occasions i was chased and real snakes breeding in our front yard. One incident I was a young teen and the other a young adult so not really "childhood"' either.

I realize it makes you guys feel better to believe it didn't happen and that conflicts between humans and reptiles don't happen unless humans provoke or mistreat them, but that just isn't the case. Yes, leaving the area is the asnwer most of the time, but not always. Sometimes that simply isn't possible. We had a 4 year old at home when there was a den of rattlesnakes about 30 ft from our door. That was simply NOT a safe situation. I have had many encounters with reptiles over the course of my life, and I have only ever had to kill the one who wouldn't stop coming back to the den in the yard. It just wasn't safe for the children. Sorry, but I am not willing to risk the life of a child for a one stubborn snake. I am just saying that I can see how it might have been necessary in this situation, and it often is in others. I would be happy to move on if you guys could quit accusing me of lying.

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I don't think you are lying. I think that there are always exceptions to the rule, abnormality, deviancy... Whatever you want to call it. It does happen and just because it is rare does not mean it did not happen.

However, it is just that: a rare occurrence. If it happened with almost every coral snake, or cotton mouth, in every encounter, then you definitely have across something extraordinary. Generalizing how something as a whole must behave based on 1 or 2 or even 3 encounters...

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Originally Posted by Cheesenugget

I don't think you are lying. I think that there are always exceptions to the rule, abnormality, deviancy... Whatever you want to call it. It does happen and just because it is rare does not mean it did not happen.

However, it is just that: a rare occurrence. If it happened with almost every coral snake, or cotton mouth, in every encounter, then you definitely have across something extraordinary. Generalizing how something as a whole must behave based on 1 or 2 or even 3 encounters...

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Thank you at least someone blaze I’m not making it up
I’m not generalizing I’m simply pointing out that it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that the snake would’ve caused problems. It’s also not be on the realm of possibility that an inexperienced person might have Decided that it poses a threat when it really did not. I can see how someone without experience with snakes would make the decision that to keep their people safe it be eded to be killed. I can also see how it could possibly pose a real problem and need to be dealt with.


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