Strength & Balance

My BP falls over quite a bit when he’s out at night, he goes up the walls of the viv then sometimes flops down with a loud thump, he occasionally lands on the log or the water bowl & occasionally the metal lock and sometimes knocks his head on them.
Don’t know if this means anything.
Does he not have the strength to keep his balance when climbing up things?

When I go to pick him to get him out for a bit he feels limp an doesn’t tense his body.
Could it be that he feels comfortable being handled?
Again I don’t know if any of this means anything.
Would like to know if this is normal or not & or am I just being paranoid about everything he does.


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It is normal, that's just what happens when snakes try to climb up smooth walls. LOL

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It is normal, that's just what happens when snakes try to climb up smooth walls. LOL

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Would he not get hurt/injured falling on to solid objects?


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Would he not get hurt/injured falling on to solid objects?


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He won't as long as the objects aren't sharp. It's not high enough for them to get hurt.

If he is being constantly active at night though, it generally means he is either hungry and you could be feeding more/larger prey items. Or he is too cold or insecure/the temps or hides are not appropriate. I don't know your husbandry, so I'm just posting info if you wanted to look into it.

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He won't as long as the objects aren't sharp. It's not high enough for them to get hurt.

If he is being constantly active at night though, it generally means he is either hungry and you could be feeding more/larger prey items. Or he is too cold or insecure/the temps or hides are not appropriate. I don't know your husbandry, so I'm just posting info if you wanted to look into it.

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I’ll post them later so you can have a look.


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Originally Posted by redshepherd

He won't as long as the objects aren't sharp. It's not high enough for them to get hurt.

If he is being constantly active at night though, it generally means he is either hungry and you could be feeding more/larger prey items. Or he is too cold or insecure/the temps or hides are not appropriate. I don't know your husbandry, so I'm just posting info if you wanted to look into it.

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Cold end
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Hot end
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Cold end
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Hot end
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The cold end I keep within 79*f and 83*f
The hot end is usually a stable 85*f-86*f
The surface temps:
Hot end. 85*f - 90*f
Cold end. 79*f - 83*f
Surface temp is checked with a temp gun.

I use two digital hygrometer’s, one in the centre of the viv & the other which is only a small one I put next to the hide he stays in, I switch ends depending on which side he’s at.
I try to keep it within 50% - 60%.



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Those are fair temps! How much does he weigh and what are you feeding him, and how often? Though I'm guessing you probably feed him properly, since everything else is correct. Some bp's just decide to be very active at night.

One of mine isn't active at all, though I sometimes wish she was. :oops:

I have four boys, it’s not unusual to find one up, or just sitting out in the open. I get a bit more cruising this time of the year, assuming looking for love. What I hate is when they flip a hide and it makes so much noise bouncing off the glass. My God for such a light object it scares or wakes half the house lmao. Almost as funny as when they really rip one and it’s crazy loud. It makes me smile just thinking about it!

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I have four boys, it’s not unusual to find one up, or just sitting out in the open. I get a bit more cruising this time of the year, assuming looking for love. What I hate is when they flip a hide and it makes so much noise bouncing off the glass. My God for such a light object it scares or wakes half the house lmao. Almost as funny as when they really rip one and it’s crazy loud. It makes me smile just thinking about it!

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Same here I keep him in my room which is in the loft/attic. At night I turn the sound from the tv off, put headphones on and still hear him thumping away.


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But you mentioned when you go to pick him up he feels limp in your hand and doesn't tense up that's a bit unusual for a snake
What morph is he?

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Those are fair temps! How much does he weigh and what are you feeding him, and how often? Though I'm guessing you probably feed him properly, since everything else is correct. Some bp's just decide to be very active at night.

One of mine isn't active at all, though I sometimes wish she was. :oops:

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He’s just been switched to small rats. Feed once a week.
I currently don’t have scales that he’ll fit in, looking to get one soon, he’s outgrew the one I have now. But he’s definitely gained weight since the beginning of December.

One more question about my original post about him being ‘limp’ or squishy when picking him up.
Should I be concerned about that at all?

*Late replying it was about 5am here (UK) when I sent the first post. Don’t know if you’re in the US or not.


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But you mentioned when you go to pick him up he feels limp in your hand and doesn't tense up that's a bit unusual for a snake
What morph is he?

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Was told citrus pastel coral glow. But might be different.
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Could be I'm not the best with morphs
The reason I asked is because some of the spider morphs have neurological problems

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Could be I'm not the best with morphs
The reason I asked is because some of the spider morphs have neurological problems

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Ye I’ve read about them some have a head wobble or something.

So do you reckon this is anything worth concerning myself with?


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If you can do a video of it the next time he does it and post it I think that would be very helpful

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If you can do a video of it the next time he does it and post it I think that would be very helpful

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Do you mean picking him up? (limp)
He doesn’t have a head wobble or anything.


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No I was referring to what you said he does in the enclosure if you can video that

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No I was referring to what you said he does in the enclosure if you can video that

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Oh. Falling. Ye I’ll try an post something later.


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No, it is normal for a docile snake to be "limp" or relaxed when being picked up, as long as their head is not limp.

Only very nervous snakes would tense up or wrap themselves into a ball.

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No, it is normal for a docile snake to be "limp" or relaxed when being picked up, as long as their head is not limp.

Only very nervous snakes would tense up or wrap themselves into a ball.

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Head doesn’t go limp.
Does that mean he’s ok?

Only wraps himself up in a ball when I have take him out for cleaning. Which I do during the day.


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Head doesn’t go limp.
Does that mean he’s ok?

Only wraps himself up in a ball when I have take him out for cleaning. Which I do during the day.


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Yes he is fine. I just meant that Jellybeans comment was not accurate. It's not unusual for a ball python to not tense up if they're used to being handled or just have relaxed personalities, especially adults.

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But you mentioned when you go to pick him up he feels limp in your hand and doesn't tense up that's a bit unusual for a snake
What morph is he?

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Yes he is fine. I just meant that Jellybeans comment was not accurate. It's not unusual for a ball python to not tense up if they're used to being handled or just have relaxed personalities, especially adults.

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Thanks. Nearly panicking then.
I try to get him out as much as I can without stressing him out.
& Apart from the day I got him he hasn’t struck at me since which was last February. So nearly a year :).
If you’re wondering how old he is, he’s around one an a half maybe older by a month or two.


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Forgive me for worrying you.
Each individual snake can react different to situations
For example mine is ad laid-back as you get but when I pick him up he tenses for 2 or 3 seconds

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