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  • 08-19-2018, 03:43 AM
    Neilp
    Red ring on tail after shed?
    Hi guys,
    I have a banana Mojave male about 600g who shed last night but now she has a red ring on his tail about 5mm from the tip, it looks as if he had an elastic band on it, any ideas? I have booked him in with the vet tomorrow morning. I will post some pics when i get chance. My problem is i dont have a proper reptile vet near me so wanted to get some idea so i can point them in the right direction.
    Thanks guys.
  • 08-19-2018, 05:30 AM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Sounds like there been a few images tips left that hasn't been noticed, this can be as bad as unshed eye caps, that should always be checked as it can cut circulation off if too many left on like an elastic band would be, any pics?

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  • 08-19-2018, 06:07 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    Sounds like there been a few images tips left that hasn't been noticed, this can be as bad as unshed eye caps, that should always be checked as it can cut circulation off if too many left on like an elastic band would be, any pics?

    Hi, i cant do pics yet as not at home but as soon as i get home.
    I have only had the snake for about 2 months but his tail does look like it is slightly shriveled so the shed thing would make sense, i didnt notice it when i bought him as i was over excited about getting a new snake lol.
    If it is that will he need it amputated or is there something the vet can do?
    Thanks for replying.
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  • 08-19-2018, 06:27 AM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Sorry ment shed tail tips not images, stupid phone autocorrected it, lol
    I always use Tapatalk to upload pics, far quicker and easier.
    It can be quite see thru some times and not always noticeable, but snakes have been known to loose the tail tips in really severe cases, post some pics when you can


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  • 08-19-2018, 07:19 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Hi, ive a pic now, how do i put it on this chat or can i send you it by pm if thats easier?
  • 08-19-2018, 07:24 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    Sorry ment shed tail tips not images, stupid phone autocorrected it, lol
    I always use Tapatalk to upload pics, far quicker and easier.
    It can be quite see thru some times and not always noticeable, but snakes have been known to loose the tail tips in really severe cases, post some pics when you can

    Hi richard, how do i put the pic up lol or can i send you a pm? Email or something lol
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  • 08-19-2018, 07:31 AM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    I always upload pics thru Tapatalk, but you can pm me if you would like,click on my name and it will say message and attach it to that

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  • 08-19-2018, 08:10 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    I always upload pics thru Tapatalk, but you can pm me if you would like,click on my name and it will say message and attach it to that
    Hi mate sorry, i tried that and no option to sttach anything
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  • 08-19-2018, 08:24 AM
    Neilp
    Red ring on tail after shed pic.
    Sorry i could not add a photo to my previous post. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bb42e6793c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1946fef0e9.jpg

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  • 08-19-2018, 08:25 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Hi mate got a pic up on a new post.
  • 08-19-2018, 08:26 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Got a pic up mate on a new post
  • 08-19-2018, 08:29 AM
    scallahan1
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed pic.
    I'm no expert, but it looks like the tip of the tail might not have shed properly and the shed is cutting off flow to the tail tip

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  • 08-19-2018, 08:37 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed pic.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scallahan1 View Post
    I'm no expert, but it looks like the tip of the tail might not have shed properly and the shed is cutting off flow to the tail tip

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    Yer thanks mate, thats what another guy thinks, i just hope it can be sorted out for the little guy.

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  • 08-19-2018, 09:15 AM
    bcr229
    Those are several build-ups from past sheds. Over time they dry out and cut off circulation. Eventually the tip dies and falls off if the snake is lucky, if not it goes septic and the snake dies from a blood infection.

    Until you can get to the vet you can apply Neosporin without painkiller to the tail tip to soften the old shed and encourage it to come off so blood can flow again.

    Also fix your husbandry, your humidity is way too low.
  • 08-19-2018, 09:16 AM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed pic.
    Ouch ,poor thing yes I would say it’s been a fair few stuck sheds that’s been left that’s caused that


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  • 08-19-2018, 10:11 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Those are several build-ups from past sheds. Over time they dry out and cut off circulation. Eventually the tip dies and falls off if the snake is lucky, if not it goes septic and the snake dies from a blood infection.

    Until you can get to the vet you can apply Neosporin without painkiller to the tail tip to soften the old shed and encourage it to come off so blood can flow again.

    Also fix your husbandry, your humidity is way too low.

    My humidity is fine, ive only had the snake for 2 months and shed yesterday but thanks for your input.

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  • 08-19-2018, 10:16 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Threads have been merged
  • 08-19-2018, 10:19 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Threads have been merged

    Thanks Deborah.

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  • 08-19-2018, 10:22 AM
    Bogertophis
    That looks rather sore, but at least the redness alerted you this time...apparently you've missed some stuck "sheds" on the tail tip, the last few times. This
    never happens with just one shed...

    Cannot tell from here if any shed skin remains...need to view super-close for that, and your BP might lose the very tip, even with vet help, but here's to
    hoping you caught it in time? I could be wrong, but I think the redness is from the old (stuck) shed skin coming off this time around, as when it stays on
    you typically don't see the redness at all (that's the blood supply and it's cut off by the constriction of the stuck-on shed). Now it's inflamed because the
    circulation is suddenly there again...sure hope it can heal & maybe the vet can help ensure that it does. The tail tip of a snake is a bit like our feet are to
    us: the slowest to heal because the furthest from heart (poorest blood circulation). That's why it doesn't take much to cut off the blood supply to the tail
    tip when several sheds are left, stuck-on...they cut off what little blood supply there is.
  • 08-19-2018, 10:26 AM
    Bogertophis
    And by the way, light colored & albino snakes should come with a warning label & maybe a jeweler's loupe: it's much harder to see stuck shed skin on them. ;)
  • 08-19-2018, 10:31 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    That looks rather sore, but at least the redness alerted you this time...apparently you've missed some stuck "sheds" on the tail tip, the last few times. This
    never happens with just one shed...

    Cannot tell from here if any shed skin remains...need to view super-close for that, and your BP might lose the very tip, even with vet help, but here's to
    hoping you caught it in time? I could be wrong, but I think the redness is from the old (stuck) shed skin coming off this time around, as when it stays on
    you typically don't see the redness at all (that's the blood supply and it's cut off by the constriction of the stuck-on shed). Now it's inflamed because the
    circulation is suddenly there again...sure hope it can heal & maybe the vet can help ensure that it does. The tail tip of a snake is a bit like our feet are to
    us: the slowest to heal because the furthest from heart (poorest blood circulation). That's why it doesn't take much to cut off the blood supply to the tail
    tip when several sheds are left, stuck-on...they cut off what little blood supply there is.

    Thanks for reply, this is his first shed with me, ive only had him for 2 months.
  • 08-19-2018, 10:59 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    And by the way, light colored & albino snakes should come with a warning label & maybe a jeweler's loupe: it's much harder to see stuck shed skin on them. ;)

    Thanks for that, i don't feel so guilty now for not noticing it when i bought him, it is his first shed with me and im on top of it, i have 5 other ball pythons that ive had for over a year and no such problems. It doesnt help when people commenting without reading through the coments saying its my fault because my humidity is wrong which it isnt.
    Thanks mate.
  • 08-19-2018, 11:11 AM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neilp View Post
    Thanks for that, i don't feel so guilty now for not noticing it when i bought him, it is his first shed with me and im on top of it, i have 5 other ball pythons that ive had for over a year and no such problems. It doesnt help when people commenting without reading through the coments saying its my fault because my humidity is wrong which it isnt.
    Thanks mate.

    I didn't see the other thread either (fyi), I guess these were merged. Anyway, this was a slow problem in the making, it didn't start with you, & having had this experience now, I bet you'll be paying closer attention from now on. It's VERY easy to miss on pale snakes. It's not about blame, it's about fixing whatever is wrong.
  • 08-19-2018, 11:21 AM
    Neilp
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I didn't see the other thread either (fyi), I guess these were merged. Anyway, this was a slow problem in the making, it didn't start with you, & having had this experience now, I bet you'll be paying closer attention from now on. It's VERY easy to miss on pale snakes. It's not about blame, it's about fixing whatever is wrong.

    Exactly, and im on it on day one, with a vet check on day 2 as that was the first appointment i could get. I love my snakes and do my hardest to give them the best of care i can, ive only had snakes just over a year and i know im still a beginner but im doing my best and my other snakes are doing great.

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  • 08-20-2018, 06:42 AM
    Neilp
    Update after vet check
    Hi guys, took my snake to the vet today and she basically said the reason why it is coming out with the red rings is because as you guys have said she has not been shedding properly with previous owner and because my husbandry is correct she is now shedding properly which is allowing blood flow to the tail, so basically i am to carry on with what im doing and see how it looks on the next shed, worse case he may need the very end cut off but she thinks it may be ok now she is in the correct environment.
    He was in a vivarium with previous owner so probably very dry.
    Anyway positive outcome sounds like.
    Thanks for your help and i will let you know how he looks after next shed.
    Cheers.
  • 08-20-2018, 08:47 AM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Well that’s good news,keep up the good work and it should soon start to look a lot better


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  • 08-20-2018, 09:39 AM
    Ronniex2
    Re: Red ring on tail after shed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I didn't see the other thread either (fyi), I guess these were merged. Anyway, this was a slow problem in the making, it didn't start with you, & having had this experience now, I bet you'll be paying closer attention from now on. It's VERY easy to miss on pale snakes. It's not about blame, it's about fixing whatever is wrong.


    Understood but the people here are going to "assume", and I mean only because they are so passionate, that it would be something we did not catch, weather we are a regular member with 1- 2 snakes or a super monitor that has been doing this for decades.. if you can take the emotions out of their concerns you’ll see it is in the best interest of your animal, the internet does not have all the answers and when you run across them, it is sometimes from a book... here you got actual experience and educated people who can offer sound advice and HELP when you post your concerns.

    I dislike negative criticism as much as the next, but it is what you have to deal with when discussing topics that people are fervent about lol... trust, I dread having to post another … "can someone help me!" post...
    But for my babies... No vet visit, or members criticism will stop me from trying to help my beauties.. Even if someone is telling me something I am already aware of like humidity or temps... But sometimes we do over look things ... something as simple as record keep from now on with him as you move forward with recovery, I do hope all goes well and he makes a full recovery.. Thanks again for the post.. Its threads like this that will help someone else one day and maybe you can help them out with your success
    :salute:
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