How leopard affect other genes

It's not secret I love Leopard and their combos, what I love is how they affect other mutation, I also love their ability to give drastically different results.

Same mutation (Hypo Coral Glow Lesser Leopard) - 2 drastically different animals

Male 1

http://i66.tinypic.com/2cmkmbm.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/35ndc10.jpg


Male 2

http://i66.tinypic.com/2vvlxrs.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/9fmo89.jpg

Holy smokes!

Both gorgeous, but yes, very different!

I have very little knowledge on different genetics, especially in BP's, and want to ask a question that sounds relevant and like I kind of know what I am talking about. So, what kind of gene is Leopard (recessive, co-dominant, etc)?

Thank you for sharing.

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Originally Posted by dakski

Holy smokes!

Both gorgeous, but yes, very different!

I have very little knowledge on different genetics, especially in BP's, and want to ask a question that sounds relevant and like I kind of know what I am talking about. So, what kind of gene is Leopard (recessive, co-dominant, etc)?

Thank you for sharing.

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Leopard has been listed has Dominant since it first appeared however Super Leopard have been produced.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Leopard has been listed has Dominant since it first appeared however Super Leopard have been produced.

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That's awesome. A dominant trait that creates different patterns on the offspring. Pretty cool.

If I understand it right, a Super Form results from two co-dominant animals with the same gene, correct? How did they get a Super Leopard then?

Where the supers healthy and able to breed also? I thought I've read that some Super's can have issues, or am I wrong here?

Don't mind me, I've been reading up on genetics and trying to figure out my own collection and just curious.

Not trying to steal the thread at all, but appreciate any light you can shed, at your convenience of course.

Thank you Deborah!

David

Those examples really bring the point home. Nice!. I also like that Leopard seems to be somewhat of a darkening gene.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Leopard has been listed has Dominant since it first appeared however Super Leopard have been produced.

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From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

Has something changed?

Jeez you produce some beauties!!! That's a perfect example of a quality breeder producing living art! :bow:

two unique beauties!


Edit: could u post Leo x Champagne next? :)

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Originally Posted by Ax01

two unique beauties!


Edit: could u post Leo x Champagne next? :)

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Thanks and no never gonna happen ;).....I am not a champagne person unless it's in a bottle :rofl:

Again, what Ive said before. You have some truly stunning animals. Thanks for sharing. Always impressive .

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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

Has something changed?

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I would say its along the lines of the super enchi, super banana, super ghi where the super doesn't change the appearance but merely the offspring are 100% visuals.

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and both are just so beautiful in their own rite.

you and your babies are p much the reason i wanted to work with the Leopard gene, and why i chose one of your babies to be my Matriarch.

you're an inspiration Deb!!!

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

I would say its along the lines of the super enchi, super banana, super ghi where the super doesn't change the appearance but merely the offspring are 100% visuals.

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All of those are co-doms.There is a visual difference in the "Supers". Leopard was dominant last time I heard.

My snakes...

Enchi...
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/img_1079.jpg

Super Enchi
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../1/1800103.jpg

I've never really noticed much of a difference between enchi and super enchi, I always thought it to be the same.

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Amazing babies. I'm of the opinion that leopard makes everything better and this makes me want to add some lesser and coral glow to my collection. Your hatchlings are inspirational.

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Amazing babies. I'm of the opinion that leopard makes everything better and this makes me want to add some lesser and coral glow to my collection. Your hatchlings are inspirational.

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Thanks, Leopard has definitely become one of my favorite gene to work with since buying my first one in 2012, now all I have to do is incorporate it in my Clown stuff (which is on the way since this year I did Pastel Leopard Clown X Leopard)

Love the leopard morph and what it does. Awesome pics.


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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

Has something changed?

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Graziani was the first to publicly comment on Leopard being a strict dominant type mutation with a homozygous that was not visually distinct from the heterozygous. He and I discussed it on ReptileRadio back in... I want to say early 2014.

Kobylka has since put out a video wherein he said that he thinks there is a very subtle difference between the heterozygous and the homozygous, at least in some of the combos he has made. The trouble there is that all the animals he showed in the video were from Leo x Leo clutches and therefore only considered possibly homozygous and to the best of my knowledge neither he not anyone else has subsequently bred them out to confirm if his supposition was correct.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Leopard has been listed has Dominant since it first appeared however Super Leopard have been produced.

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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

From what I heard from Nerd, a "Super" Leopard was produced by someone, don't recall the name, but what is actually a homozygous dominant. No visual change, just produces 100% Leopards.

Has something changed?

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Originally Posted by asplundii

Graziani was the first to publicly comment on Leopard being a strict dominant type mutation with a homozygous that was not visually distinct from the heterozygous. He and I discussed it on ReptileRadio back in... I want to say early 2014.

Kobylka has since put out a video wherein he said that he thinks there is a very subtle difference between the heterozygous and the homozygous, at least in some of the combos he has made. The trouble there is that all the animals he showed in the video were from Leo x Leo clutches and therefore only considered possibly homozygous and to the best of my knowledge neither he not anyone else has subsequently bred them out to confirm if his supposition was correct.

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i asked this awhile back: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...pard&p=2535369 and here's the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3B85cLmNKM&t=

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

I would say its along the lines of the super enchi, super banana, super ghi where the super doesn't change the appearance but merely the offspring are 100% visuals.

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there are differences. i've noticed higher whites and softer colors overall in the Super Banana/Super CG and the Super GHI is super dark, looks to be in shed w/o the blue-ness.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

I've never really noticed much of a difference between enchi and super enchi, I always thought it to be the same.

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the pattern is cleaner, bolder but the biggest difference is in the eyestripe and neck pattern.

Wow that first banana looks like it has tri stripe in it! Very beautiful boy.

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