What is a Harlequin BP

Everytime I see an ad for one of these, the snakes never look the same.

What is it that makes a BP a Harlequin?

I can't find anything on a Harlequin BP, how ever there are Harlequin Boa Constrictors.

to my knowledge they haven't been proven genetic yet. a few breeders might be working on some lines, but more breeding has to be done. alot of the ads you see now are oddball ch imports.


vaughn

Agreed in some respects. All "Harlequins" do not look alike. True, there are some questionable appearing animals out there; they may or may not be Harlequins. I'm not saying that all of them are not; they would have to be bred to prove it.

As I understand it, Harlequins have less yellow than a normal (What is normal anymore???) and are at least partially striped. Within these sections of striping there are off centered sections with dark spots. Some call them keyholes, think of an old skeleton key lying on the spine of the snake.

Some Harlequins have shown to be genetically reproducible, in that Harlequin bred to normal equals approximately half normal and half Harlequin. Others have speculated that Harlequin = Phantom. THIS NEEDS TO BE PROVEN. It takes time to line breed any Ball Python, hopefully someone is working towards that now to see if Harlequin + Harlequin = Super Phantom. Again this HAS NOT been proven and is a guess at this point.

Still others have said that Harlequins are a more brown version of a Mojave, again speculation only.



Somebody prove something already!



Thanks!


Chad Schwinn
www.ChadSchwinnReptiles.com

can anyone post a pic of one?

Check here. Adam posted a pic of one of the nicest I have seen yet (he actually has a pair).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...balls/1j18.jpg

OH MY GOD!!!!i think zulu is a harlequin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what do you guys think? hes the snake all curled up
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1630_thumb.jpg
he has that broken stripe down his back!

Mr python.. no that's a normal snake. Do you see how aberrant the stripe is on the pic in the link?

oooh, yes. nvm then:oops: i have a better pic of him though if you want to see him better that one doesnt even show his whole body, brb



nevermind i dont have enough room on my file to up load it

I beleive that they are just a fluke, but thats just me.. I personally look for a "morph" that looks different than the WT.. Now if it had pyrimids on its sides..lol

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Check here. Adam posted a pic of one of the nicest I have seen yet (he actually has a pair).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...balls/1j18.jpg

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SPJ,

Adam Richardson took that picture, but I believe those animals belong to John at JASballs. I'll try to track him down and get him to comment. But you are correct, that looks like an excellent Harlequin as I understand the mutation!

Thanks!

Hey that is my Harli!! LOL. I dont know what I will get from him. He will breed the female in the pic and a few Normals. Next year he will go on a few codom females. And I know i'll get some interesting stuff from that!! Here is an old pic of him..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...harlequin2.png

I got this as a "gold stripe" however she has the two "keyholes" in her stripe. What do ya'll think???

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...dstripe2-2.jpg


Second picture is the 2 females I have

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...dstripes-2.jpg

Here is a female I've been working with. She didn't do anything for us last year, but she's locking consistantly with a lemon blast male this year. I can't wait to see what she throws.

She definitely has a few of the give-aways that harlequins have. Not saying she's a harlequin because we don't know. She was originally bought as a WC hatchling, then sold to us when she didn't produce for the other guy. I've always thought she looked very similar to a harlequin, but time will be the true test I suppose.

What do you think of the dueling earth worms on her back? lol

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/IMG_0467.jpg

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I got this as a "gold stripe" however she has the two "keyholes" in her stripe. What do ya'll think???

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...dstripe2-2.jpg


Second picture is the 2 females I have

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...dstripes-2.jpg

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There is definitely something "stripey" going on with those. Beautiful animals. :)

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Check here. Adam posted a pic of one of the nicest I have seen yet (he actually has a pair).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...balls/1j18.jpg

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The one on the top left is definitely something out of the ordinary. That is by far the best looking Harley I've seen. Granted, I think there still needs to be more info on the morph before any solid conclusions can be made.

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/100e2169.jpg

any 1 know what this is?

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/93108/8...v8ZKJFAWCw.jpg

This is my harlequin male. They have also been refered to as widestripes. Some have been proven genetic but alot of animals displaying the "harlequin markers" do not. Some people have produced some amazing animals from thier harlequins. Google harlequin x fire and see some nice looking fires that someone produced. As has already been stated, much more time is needed to figure out exactly what is going on with this morph, or if there even is anything going on. I am very interested about working on this project and due to the number of debates and questions this topic inspires, I will be sure to keep everyone posted on my progress. So far this season he has had multiple locks with a dinker female and a spider. If it does prove to be an inheritable trait, I'm pretty excited about the prospect of a harlequin spider.

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http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/100e2169.jpg

any 1 know what this is?

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AWESOME. That's what that is.


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We bred this female
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9a5f5da2.jpg

To this male
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa0a4fed1.jpg

And produced these
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps83dabe06.jpg

VERY cool! I'm rather impressed with the looks of the top right and middle one. The bottom right almost looks enchi with the banding.