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  • 05-01-2018, 11:47 AM
    Skyrivers
    So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Since he is a platinum Motley according to the pet store I felt Monty Python was a good name for him we're going to call him Monty. He is enjoying one of my new High Scales enclosures for the time being. In quarantine for a while though.

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  • 05-01-2018, 12:19 PM
    tttaylorrr
    color me surprised that you decided to keep him, lol. :P you should have named him Houdini, because he appeared out of thin air!!! hahaha.

    congrats!
  • 05-01-2018, 12:20 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    I know right?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    color me surprised that you decided to keep him, lol. :P you should have named him Houdini, because he appeared out of thin air!!! hahaha.

    congrats!

  • 05-01-2018, 01:03 PM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    I'm glad Monty found a good home. Very nice looking critter.
  • 05-01-2018, 02:50 PM
    Ax01
    aren't those the same pix u supposedly took yesterday morning, of the Retic your neighbor supposedly found, the same day u were supposedly picking up your new enclosures?

    either way, congrats on Monty. i hope he grows up to be a real big boy!
  • 05-01-2018, 02:57 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    aren't those the same pix u supposedly took yesterday morning, of the Retic your neighbor supposedly found, the same day u were supposedly picking up your new enclosures?

    either way, congrats on Monty. i hope he grows up to be a real big boy!

    Photos are same. I picked up the enclosures Saturday. Was a 5 hour drive one way to save shipping.
  • 05-01-2018, 03:08 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    :confusd:
    Okay so this snake is not a cheap snake so I'd be rather surprised someone would just dump it (although not totally unheard of) assuming this is what really happened. Your neighbor just 'found' it yesterday.
    Did you really do due diligence in trying to find it's owner before just deciding 'okay it's mine now'?
    I understand you are excited, but if *you* lost this, wouldn't you hope someone would try their best to find you to return him?

    Sorry for being so skeptical but seen a lot in this hobby.
  • 05-01-2018, 03:24 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    :confusd:
    Okay so this snake is not a cheap snake so I'd be rather surprised someone would just dump it (although not totally unheard of) assuming this is what really happened. Your neighbor just 'found' it yesterday.
    Did you really do due diligence in trying to find it's owner before just deciding 'okay it's mine now'?
    I understand you are excited, but if *you* lost this, wouldn't you hope someone would try their best to find you to return him?

    Sorry for being so skeptical but seen a lot in this hobby.

    Posted n local animal facebook group we use to track out cats and dogs that wonder off and animal shelter said no one was looking for it yet. If owner shows up would happily return it. If not I would totally provided a good home for him. Where have I failed here?

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  • 05-01-2018, 03:35 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    You mentioned in the other thread a neighbor had just recently moved away. Any way to contact them?
  • 05-01-2018, 03:36 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    You mentioned in the other thread a neighbor had just recently moved away. Any way to contact them?

    Not that I know of.

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  • 05-01-2018, 03:53 PM
    bcr229
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    Not that I know of.

    US mail, send a letter. Post office will forward it if the neighbor set up forwarding to their new residence address.
  • 05-01-2018, 06:28 PM
    Sauzo
    To play devils advocate here, if someone 'lost' that snake and really was concerned, i would imagine they would be checking all the places that the OP already let know. And if it was the person who moved and they were worried, I'm sure they would have contacted the neighbors asking. I mean how do you 'lose' your snake and not notice it until after you have moved lol. I check on my gang every morning i wake up so i would know right away if one was missing.

    Honestly, it is not the OPs responsibility to go out searching for the owner It is is the owners responsibility. On the flip side, the OP should not try and conceal the fact he found the snake which to me it sounds like he isnt as he posted on FB(im guessing the local reptile club there) and has let animal control and whatever other 'lost and found' there is for pets in his area.

    Also to the OP, if someone claims it, make sure they show some kind of proof like a receipt from the breeder or contact info so you can call the breeder and actually ask the breeder is 'Joe' actually bought a snake from him as that retic does look young so I'm sure whoever sold it would remember. Any Joe can just say "Oh you found my lost retic. Im so glad, Can I have him back". When in reality, that isnt his real owner and the guy just saw you post a lost and found retic and he wants to claim it to keep or sell.
  • 05-01-2018, 06:37 PM
    AnnieHeart
    I like the name you chose.:) What a crazy find!!:O
  • 05-01-2018, 06:38 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
  • 05-01-2018, 08:27 PM
    C.Marie
    Such a gorgeous noodle, looks so inquisitive , great coloring congratulations on your new family member best wishes always :D
  • 05-01-2018, 08:30 PM
    Tigerhawk
    He looks great, enjoy your new snake. If the original owner wanted it. They should put forth some effort to find him. They Probably let him go after they realized they were over there head. Just give him a good home as I’m sure you will, and move on.
  • 05-02-2018, 12:25 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    Looking at those new photos, my bf said it looks more like a sunfire motley than a platinum motley.
    I don't know all the subtle differences in the morphs, so I don't know but thought I should mention it.
  • 05-02-2018, 12:26 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    Looking at those new photos, my bf said it looks more like a sunfire motley than a platinum motley.
    I don't know all the subtle differences in the morphs, so I don't know but thought I should mention it.

    Thanks. Not a morph expert myself.
  • 05-02-2018, 12:47 PM
    Ax01
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    aren't those the same pix u supposedly took yesterday morning, of the Retic your neighbor supposedly found, the same day u were supposedly picking up your new enclosures?

    either way, congrats on Monty. i hope he grows up to be a real big boy!

    i should add that i personally think u bought that snake.
  • 05-02-2018, 03:50 PM
    350z
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/110305

    Listen I'm not an expert but this snake has the exact same break in the line on the head and horizontal dots. Ad was last updated just two weeks ago.

    Not trying to be a pessimist but the chances of someone abandoning a 600 dollar snake when moving or losing it and not looking for it?

    For picking up a mainland female reticulated python, one of the snakes with the highest level of care requirements there have been an awful lot of concerning basic knowledge questions. People on this forum have been kind but I'm assuming there would've been some questions outright buying a male to breed. Saying your neighbor found a 600 dollar snake though plays a little easier.
  • 05-02-2018, 04:09 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 350z View Post
    https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/110305

    Listen I'm not an expert but this snake has the exact same break in the line on the head and horizontal dots. Ad was last updated just two weeks ago.

    Not trying to be a pessimist but the chances of someone abandoning a 600 dollar snake when moving or losing it and not looking for it?

    For picking up a mainland female reticulated python, one of the snakes with the highest level of care requirements there have been an awful lot of concerning basic knowledge questions. People on this forum have been kind but I'm assuming there would've been some questions outright buying a male to breed. Saying your neighbor found a 600 dollar snake though plays a little easier.

    WOW!... hmmmmmmmmmmm.......

    Yep I ask questions.
    Yep I have snakes that I work hard to provide quality care for.
    Not sure what else to say. None of my snakes cost me more than $400.00 (not including caging)
    Believe what you like.
    Peace.
  • 05-02-2018, 04:15 PM
    bcr229
    Wow. It's hard to tell b/c the OP's pictures aren't the greatest, but those head and top of the neck markings are a very close match.
  • 05-02-2018, 04:16 PM
    Aedryan Methyus
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 350z View Post
    https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/110305

    Listen I'm not an expert but this snake has the exact same break in the line on the head and horizontal dots. Ad was last updated just two weeks ago.

    Not trying to be a pessimist but the chances of someone abandoning a 600 dollar snake when moving or losing it and not looking for it?

    For picking up a mainland female reticulated python, one of the snakes with the highest level of care requirements there have been an awful lot of concerning basic knowledge questions. People on this forum have been kind but I'm assuming there would've been some questions outright buying a male to breed. Saying your neighbor found a 600 dollar snake though plays a little easier.

    Wow... The patterns and line breaks on their heads do appear to be identical...
  • 05-02-2018, 04:20 PM
    Alter-Echo
    Ah, the internet, where everyone is out to pick apart every story and attempt to prove you wrong.... "sigh"

    Beautiful snake, wherever it came from.
  • 05-02-2018, 04:28 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    Who knows, maybe a neighbor bought it, lost it and then his neighbor found it.
    But really, it's just a silly thing to fib about IMO
    I hate being so skeptical but there's a reason for it, over the years in this hobby, seen some really crazy things.

    oh well.
    As long as the snake is loved and taken care of, in the end, that's what matters.

    edit - and I guess this means it IS a plat motley, not sunfire, so at least there's known genetics.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/RlQOgbi.jpg
  • 05-02-2018, 04:29 PM
    Starscream
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...thouxt_540.png

    I'm sorry, I couldn't help it lol.

    Pretty kiddo, hope you enjoy him! :)
  • 05-02-2018, 04:50 PM
    350z
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    For the people who think I have on a tinfoil hat I can't keep these guys in my state due in part to individuals owning them that had no business dealing or keeping the big constrictors. That breeder is located in Texas as is the cage company OP uses. About the biggest thing I can own is an Olive, which I possess and had to think long and hard about adding.

    Why fib if you thought people would be accepting of purchasing a snake to breed?

    The advice that needed to be offered in the skyrivers thread makes me disagree fundamentally with someone of that experience level signing themselves up to deal with a mainland female on eggs.
  • 05-02-2018, 05:20 PM
    Aedryan Methyus
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...thouxt_540.png

    I'm sorry, I couldn't help it lol.

    Pretty kiddo, hope you enjoy him! :)

    LMAO! Illuminati... That's brilliant! :rofl:
  • 05-02-2018, 05:47 PM
    Phillydubs
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...30d0e63d1d.jpg


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  • 05-02-2018, 06:02 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    I might have found his owner. A lady that lives on the other side of my neighbor's house responded to my post in Facebook. She provided me photos. Her and her family been out of town for a week because her mother-in-law died. They won't be back till this weekend. Then we can find out if her snake is still in its enclosure. I will update everyone this weekend after they get back. Till then. he is house safely and well taken care of.

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  • 05-02-2018, 06:07 PM
    hilabeans
    I don't know if this story is legit or not, either way it's totally bonkers. :rolleyes:

    Monty, or whoever you are, I hope you have a great home and life ... wherever and with whomever that may be. The one thing that is for certain in all of this is that you're a handsome devil.
  • 05-02-2018, 06:11 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Wow...that snake was lucky that a knowledgeable snake-lover found him & is taking care of him so well. If he turns out to be owned by your
    neighbor that's out of town (which sounds pretty likely at this point?) then you just might end up with a reward or some great "karma" at least.
    It does seem that a snake like this would not have been abandoned or lost without being missed. Nice adventure at least.
  • 05-02-2018, 06:41 PM
    Phillydubs
    Did you ask your neighbor if they were recently a customer of a breeder on morph market?
  • 05-02-2018, 07:36 PM
    Sauzo
    Dang, now people are doubting he found it and that he bought it and lied? Why? And most of all, who cares. Just take it for face value and call it a day. The OP gains nothing by lying on a forum of people he personally doesnt know. I mean i guess he could lie for the attention but honestly, i would rather brag about how i bought the snake rather than to say i found it...unless i really found it lol.

    And imo with Caesar, retics dont seem any harder to care for than my boas. They take more time in the fact that you need to clean poop and piss more often and change their substrate more often. And feed more often. But thats about it. I dont have experience with a 18 foot retic but imo any large constrictor be it 8 feet or 18 feet is going to demand respect. The real difference is just cage sizing food sizing, poopand pee sizing. The respect sizing will be the same. I wouldnt respect a 10 foot snake any less than i respect a 18 foot snake. Both could ruin your day in the blink of an eye and both are still wild and can be unpredictable.

    Regardless, nice snake whether found or bought and here's to hoping your neighbors retic is still in its cage when she gets home lol.
  • 05-02-2018, 08:05 PM
    Ax01
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    this just seemed like a crazy roundabout way to fall into a mate for his 0.1 Retic w/o resentment for his inexperience. i mean he didn't know what a urate was just this February. it's a crazy story and i'm probably wrong but Skyrivers seems to be that kinda crazy guy afterall.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    I might have found his owner. A lady that lives on the other side of my neighbor's house responded to my post in Facebook. She provided me photos. Her and her family been out of town for a week because her mother-in-law died. They won't be back till this weekend. Then we can find out if her snake is still in its enclosure. I will update everyone this weekend after they get back. Till then. he is house safely and well taken care of.

    u should ask her to join the forum. we would love another member of the community and would love to see progression pix of this boy.
  • 05-02-2018, 08:28 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    Who knows, maybe a neighbor bought it, lost it and then his neighbor found it.

    so the story I pulled out my behind may be what actually happened? If so, that's kinda cool that now you know you have a neighbor that is also into retics.
  • 05-02-2018, 09:07 PM
    Sauzo
    Well, I dont know Skyriver's snake experience but if it is fairly new, i wouldnt even think of breeding. I have kept reptiles since a kid and have had all kinds of stuff from iguanas to Monitors to boas and now a retic and GTP and i personally would be very cautious if i dipped my toes into breeding.

    As for just owning reptiles, as long as you do the research and know what you are getting into and can afford it, I see no reason to not plunge in. I steered clear of GTPs for about 35 years simply because of all the horror stories i heard and you know what, i regret listening to them. Since i got Pat, he is to me, no harder to care for than my boas. I did do a LOT of research so i knew what i was getting into. It's like Gilas and Beaded Lizards. I have always wanted one of those as well and i have been doing LOTS of research on them and have wanted to pull the trigger a few times but i am being cautious as they are a big commitment. Plus i want to make sure i have all my bases covered. My vet said she will see gilas and beaded and has seen them before but not that often. And in my area, they are legal to own as long as you have paperwork from the breeder stating its not WC and is USCBB.

    Anyways, whether Skyriver is crazy or not, i cant answer that but dont let anything deter you from wanting to get the reptile you love as long as you can give it the proper care and know what you are going to end up with.

    And i agree with April, it would be cool to know that you have a neighbor who is into large constrictors too.
  • 05-03-2018, 08:37 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Well, I dont know Skyriver's snake experience but if it is fairly new, i wouldnt even think of breeding. I have kept reptiles since a kid and have had all kinds of stuff from iguanas to Monitors to boas and now a retic and GTP and i personally would be very cautious if i dipped my toes into breeding.

    As for just owning reptiles, as long as you do the research and know what you are getting into and can afford it, I see no reason to not plunge in. I steered clear of GTPs for about 35 years simply because of all the horror stories i heard and you know what, i regret listening to them. Since i got Pat, he is to me, no harder to care for than my boas. I did do a LOT of research so i knew what i was getting into. It's like Gilas and Beaded Lizards. I have always wanted one of those as well and i have been doing LOTS of research on them and have wanted to pull the trigger a few times but i am being cautious as they are a big commitment. Plus i want to make sure i have all my bases covered. My vet said she will see gilas and beaded and has seen them before but not that often. And in my area, they are legal to own as long as you have paperwork from the breeder stating its not WC and is USCBB.

    Anyways, whether Skyriver is crazy or not, i cant answer that but dont let anything deter you from wanting to get the reptile you love as long as you can give it the proper care and know what you are going to end up with.

    And i agree with April, it would be cool to know that you have a neighbor who is into large constrictors too.


    To answer a few things being said about me.

    1) Never said I was going to breed. I said that a friend of mine approached me about breeding and buying the eggs. I want more experience with larger snakes before I even go that way. Last thing I want it to try to remove eggs from a mother that would be protecting her eggs right now. I am just educating myself as much as I can and will continue to do so. I would also want a couple of years of breeding BPs or something smaller before going anywhere near breeding.

    2) I ask a lot of questions for several reasons. I like to learn as much as I can. When I had snakes as a child I did not have internet or other people to talk to about husbandry so now that I am back into snakes I ask a lot of questions because the information is more readily available. I work hard to provide good healthy homes for all my animals. I love them and will continue to do so.

    3) No reason to lie about anything here. I thought was cool find so I shared it. That simple.

    4) Keeping him is not an easy decision but is based on knowing I can and will provide a good home for him. I only planned on owning 1 retic. If he belongs to the neighbor I will be happy to reunite them with him but also taking some clamps and a lock with me as a gift. Once again it is about making sure he is cared for. If their snake is home then I will happily care for him with NO plans on breeding him. We will find out Saturday and I will update then.

    5) I love my animals dearly and will do everything I can to make sure they are happy and healthy. I took Rainbow to get her eye looked at. I took Lucy to get her injuries looked at (she is a rescue and was attacked by live prey before I got her). I will research husbandry to make sure I am on track.

    Please all you trolls, find something else to do. I am just a herp lover that will be a snake parent for a long time.

    To everyone who always offers helpful advice, Thank you so much.

    Peace.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    As for just owning reptiles, as long as you do the research and know what you are getting into and can afford it, I see no reason to not plunge in. I steered clear of GTPs for about 35 years simply because of all the horror stories i heard and you know what, i regret listening to them

    And i agree with April, it would be cool to know that you have a neighbor who is into large constrictors too.

    That is one reason I don't have a GTP is the "attitude". I owned a tree boa and she was grumpy as heck. I hear the GTPs are easier and less grumpy. I don't have any experience with them though. Love their beauty of them though.
  • 05-03-2018, 09:27 AM
    Craiga 01453
    I didn't look at this thread the last few days...
    Boy did I miss a lot!!!

    I'll be looking forward to the thrilling conclusion over the weekend...its like waiting for a new episode of your favorite show when the last episode ended with a cliffhanger.
  • 05-03-2018, 09:38 AM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
  • 05-03-2018, 02:13 PM
    Ax01
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    To answer a few things being said about me.

    1) Never said I was going to breed. I said that a friend of mine approached me about breeding and buying the eggs. I want more experience with larger snakes before I even go that way. Last thing I want it to try to remove eggs from a mother that would be protecting her eggs right now. I am just educating myself as much as I can and will continue to do so. I would also want a couple of years of breeding BPs or something smaller before going anywhere near breeding.

    2) I ask a lot of questions for several reasons. I like to learn as much as I can. When I had snakes as a child I did not have internet or other people to talk to about husbandry so now that I am back into snakes I ask a lot of questions because the information is more readily available. I work hard to provide good healthy homes for all my animals. I love them and will continue to do so.

    3) No reason to lie about anything here. I thought was cool find so I shared it. That simple.

    4) Keeping him is not an easy decision but is based on knowing I can and will provide a good home for him. I only planned on owning 1 retic. If he belongs to the neighbor I will be happy to reunite them with him but also taking some clamps and a lock with me as a gift. Once again it is about making sure he is cared for. If their snake is home then I will happily care for him with NO plans on breeding him. We will find out Saturday and I will update then.

    5) I love my animals dearly and will do everything I can to make sure they are happy and healthy. I took Rainbow to get her eye looked at. I took Lucy to get her injuries looked at (she is a rescue and was attacked by live prey before I got her). I will research husbandry to make sure I am on track.

    Please all you trolls, find something else to do. I am just a herp lover that will be a snake parent for a long time.

    To everyone who always offers helpful advice, Thank you so much.

    Peace.

    oh i'm not trolling. my comments are legit concerns or questions. u gotta admit, it is questionable when u find a snake one day and the next day u make another thread saying that u decided to keep it and give him a name? or your Retic breeder friend couldn't help ID his morph but a petshop can do so accurately? if a thread like this were made on Fauna, the sleuths over there would be all over it to confirm or debunk it.

    also i don't think anyone doubts your love for your animals or passion for herps but not everyone is gonna pat you on the back just for getting a cool snake. i think some of us are just trying to say slow down buddy! i also want emphasize what 350Z said earlier (quoted below).

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 350z View Post
    For the people who think I have on a tinfoil hat I can't keep these guys in my state due in part to individuals owning them that had no business dealing or keeping the big constrictors. That breeder is located in Texas as is the cage company OP uses. About the biggest thing I can own is an Olive, which I possess and had to think long and hard about adding.

    Why fib if you thought people would be accepting of purchasing a snake to breed?

    The advice that needed to be offered in the skyrivers thread makes me disagree fundamentally with someone of that experience level signing themselves up to deal with a mainland female on eggs.

    be responsible w/ what u keep, breed and (honestly) sell to. lost pets, dumped animals have a big impact on the environment, hobby and keepers in all over.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    As for just owning reptiles, as long as you do the research and know what you are getting into and can afford it, I see no reason to not plunge in. I steered clear of GTPs for about 35 years simply because of all the horror stories i heard and you know what, i regret listening to them

    And i agree with April, it would be cool to know that you have a neighbor who is into large constrictors too.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    That is one reason I don't have a GTP is the "attitude". I owned a tree boa and she was grumpy as heck. I hear the GTPs are easier and less grumpy. I don't have any experience with them though. Love their beauty of them though.

    i've talked to few GTP breeders and keepers. they're fine when they're established feeders so getting them as a juvie is the best start and u still get to see their color change. but i would advise against a noobie getting a neonate. they are real pretty green pet rocks and still on my list.
  • 05-03-2018, 04:13 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    i've talked to few GTP breeders and keepers. they're fine when they're established feeders so getting them as a juvie is the best start and u still get to see their color change. but i would advise against a noobie getting a neonate. they are real pretty green pet rocks and still on my list.

    Pat was about 6 months old when i got him. He had only eaten once or maybe twice with the owner gal and she told me, he was a problem feeder. He also was kind of dehydrated and about as thick as a pencil if that. I am a GTP noob. Fast forward just over 4 months, Pat has about doubled his size, doubled his girth and is nice and well hydrated, pooping and peeing like clockwork and doesnt miss a beat for his mouse every week(pushed it out to 10 days now). Just because you are new at a reptile doesnt mean you shouldnt get said reptile. As long as you know what you getting into and did the research and are able to give it what it needs, then like i said, no reason not to go for it. The problem is when a person just impulse buys a pet and then decides they cant afford or care for it for whatever reason. Everyone has to learn somehow and first hand knowledge is the best teacher imo.

    And yes, GTPs are pretty much a BP on a stick except at night. Pat rivals Caesar at night. He spent most of the night, digging in his substrate, climbing up and down his perches and trying to sit on his live plants. The guy is a ball of energy 3 days after eating up until the next feed day.

    But i also like challenges. So far i have managed to get a labeled problem BP feeder(Dottie) to go from not eating to eating FT rats as a baby. I got a labeled problem feeder JCP who would only eat live black mice at night to eating FT rats any time of the day. And i finally got Pat who was dehydrated and a questionable feeder to eating like clockwork. Heck the owner at the reptile shop says i got a way with snakes and can get anything to eat lol. All it involves is knowing what the snakes need as far as husbandry and security. The snake will take care of the eating part lol.

    And here is Pat again!!
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...0bbecf61_h.jpg
  • 05-03-2018, 05:15 PM
    Ax01
    i agree that research goes a long way. i don't think enough peeps do their homework and just want info spoon fed. research, learn, ask good questions, get yo experience level up, repeat.

    also i'm acquainted w/ Kayla. i visit her shop whenever i'm in the area and buy some feeders or whatever and we always chat at the expo's. they have a good variety of animals. once i she had this huge Kingsnake. i was like Indigo sized. i'm trying to look for old pix i have of it right now, but anyways i think i mentioned i saw your GTP or it's clutchmate there a few months back:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/naAiREk.jpg

    lol i probably held your JCP if u got it from Hewitt. i don't remember if it was Kayla or the previous owner, but she put in my hand before i knew it for a pretty good sales pitch. i got pix somewhere but it was super cute and i was really close to to buy it.
  • 05-03-2018, 09:42 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    i agree that research goes a long way. i don't think enough peeps do their homework and just want info spoon fed. research, learn, ask good questions, get yo experience level up, repeat.

    also i'm acquainted w/ Kayla. i visit her shop whenever i'm in the area and buy some feeders or whatever and we always chat at the expo's. they have a good variety of animals. once i she had this huge Kingsnake. i was like Indigo sized. i'm trying to look for old pix i have of it right now, but anyways i think i mentioned i saw your GTP or it's clutchmate there a few months back:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/naAiREk.jpg

    lol i probably held your JCP if u got it from Hewitt. i don't remember if it was Kayla or the previous owner, but she put in my hand before i knew it for a pretty good sales pitch. i got pix somewhere but it was super cute and i was really close to to buy it.

    Might have been a clutch mate. She has sold about 6 of them when i talked to her. And you probably did hold my old JCP. I bought it from her and then traded it back to her for Rango lol. I got it switched over to feeding but could never get it broken of the crazy defensiveness. She ended up selling it to some guy in Tacoma i believe when i talked to her last.

    And yes, I got Pat from Hewitt. I met Kayla when she bought the store off the original owner, Steve. He offered it to me but i didnt have cash on hand so he sold it to Kayla. I used to give her dubias and she would just credit me with rats and mice for my snakes lol. The original owner, Steve didnt do GTPs so it had to have been Kayla. And yeah, when i saw Pat, he was on the floor in a small little cage. I talked to Kayla as like i said, i have known her for probably about 3 years now and she told me she cant really get him to eat reliable but she said, i seem to get anything to eat so she wouldnt be too worried about selling him to me. I took the challenge and now you see how Pat is.

    That one looks like the one that was sold already when i got there. She had 2. One in a small cage which was Pat and a bigger one in a taller cage which looks like that one in the pic. Pat was sooooo tiny when i got him. Kayla said, he was the smallest she has seen but he was also one of the prettier ones she has seen. I think he has made up his smallness now lol. He has doubled his size and girth.
  • 05-08-2018, 08:34 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Update

    I almost did not update this because of some of the things being said but here it goes.

    When my neighbor got home they found their boy secured in his cage so the previous owner is still a mystery. For now I will take good care of him and see where it goes from here. I will not update this thread any longer.

    Peace
  • 05-08-2018, 08:58 AM
    Sauzo
    Well, hey you tried. Like i've said, not your responsibility to go out looking for the owner. If you told the most obvious places a person missing their animal would look and there is no bites, i say grats on a new snake.
  • 05-08-2018, 09:06 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: So, I decided to keep him. Name is Monty Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Well, hey you tried. Like i've said, not your responsibility to go out looking for the owner. If you told the most obvious places a person missing their animal would look and there is no bites, i say grats on a new snake.


    Thanks.

    He seams healthy so far. Even if I rehome him would be after quarantine is over and I know he is healthy for sure. He has a great personality so far.
  • 05-08-2018, 11:15 AM
    hilabeans
    (Moved this question to your High Scale Enclosure thread...)
  • 05-08-2018, 08:04 PM
    Tigerhawk
    Enjoy your new snake. Don’t worry about what others think or say. At the end of the day it belongs to you.
  • 05-08-2018, 08:15 PM
    Bogertophis
    Doesn't seem like a snake that would have been dumped, & his former owner couldn't have been very responsible if he was allowed to escape & was not found...so
    good luck with him, be the good owner he needs & deserves.
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