Drinking fountain for Rainbow my Reticulated Python?

I was looking online and saw this.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071213DDY...&pd_rd_w=TSWWC

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0056ASTES..._t1_B071213DDY

I was thinking would be cool for my Reticulated python's cage. Has anyone else done something like this for their snakes? Thoughts appreciated.

Is this a bad idea?

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Has anyone else done something like this for their snakes?

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lol no.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Is this a bad idea?

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IMO yas.

and u would confine this to your Retic's enclosure? seems complex and more trouble than it's worth for a snake. for example, those fountains can be knocked over and all that spilled water can throw off your heat source/regulators, let alone who knows what the electrical components of the fountain will do. or u could have a fountain/filter full or poop and pee.

Edit: your Rainbow threads are getting funny, not funny, if u know what i mean.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

Edit: your Rainbow threads are getting funny, not funny, if u know what i mean.

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I withdraw the question and will keep future questions to myself. I was not aware my questions were silly, unwelcomed, or annoying. Now I am.

Peace.

The problem with moving water features is snakes tend to relieve themselves in water. Fouled water features are a pain in the butt to clean and disinfect. Water bowls are the best for overall care. Waterfalls and water fountains not so much.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

Edit: your Rainbow threads are getting funny, not funny, if u know what i mean.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

I withdraw the question and will keep future questions to myself. I was not aware my questions were silly, unwelcomed, or annoying. Now I am.

Peace.

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don't go away! i really wanna see Rainbow grow and have a good life. i do my share of helping noobs and peeps on the forum but i also do my share of teasing and i will call anyone out on something i think is wrong.

u made a big jump from BP's to an advance snake very quickly IMO. (even if u had Boa's or whatever previously) it's fair to ask good questions and there are plenty of peeps who can help u out here on the forum. but basic questions like can i handle my snake that i just fed and who is hiding? will get me shaking my head.

research, learn, seek good advice, share, enjoy, laugh, repeat. ;)


Edit: also this is just my perspective. others may disagree.

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Originally Posted by SDA

The problem with moving water features is snakes tend to relieve themselves in water. Fouled water features are a pain in the butt to clean and disinfect. Water bowls are the best for overall care. Waterfalls and water fountains not so much.

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That makes sense. I'm just trying to figure out a way to make her enclosure when she gets out of quarantine amazing and is natural responsible. You're right though. She already chose to pee in her water. That would have been much more difficult to clean if it was a situation with a water fountain involved.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

don't go away! i really wanna see Rainbow grow and have a good life. i do my share of helping noobs and peeps on the forum but i also do my share of teasing and i will call anyone out on something i think is wrong.

u made a big jump from BP's to an advance snake very quickly IMO. (even if u had Boa's or whatever previously) it's fair to ask good questions and there are plenty of peeps who can help u out here on the forum. but basic questions like can i handle my snake that i just fed and who is hiding? will get me shaking my head.

research, learn, seek good advice, share, enjoy, laugh, repeat. ;)


Edit: also this is just my perspective. others may disagree.

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Oh I don't scare that easy. I ask a lot of questions but I also learned a lot. The reason I ask a lot of questions is because people who have more experience than me he might know reasons why something might be bad or good or way to improve upon an idea. At the same time I don't want to be a nuisance. If you do not write a question I asked or bothered by a post I create, the choice is yours to read it or not or to respond or not. I spend a lot more time reading than I do posting. I know rainbow is a huge responsibility and that's even more of a reason to do more research. Even if I had several years and was very skilled at raising reticulated pythons, I'm sure they will bring you things to learn everyday.

Besides learning from other people's mistakes is way better than learning from your own.

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Awesome! I always thought it would be neat to have a big room for the retic, something like a 10' x 20' display, maybe with a water feature on one side and a dry side on the other. Something like you mentioned above would be neat for a small retic but you would probably need something a bit bigger for a larger one, otherwise it might just get knocked over. I would love to some day have a setup something like this, maybe with a fountain at one end and some low branches to climb:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...etic-water.jpg

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Oh I don't scare that easy. I ask a lot of questions but I also learned a lot. The reason I ask a lot of questions is because people who have more experience than me he might know reasons why something might be bad or good or way to improve upon an idea. At the same time I don't want to be a nuisance. If you do not write a question I asked or bothered by a post I create, the choice is yours to read it or not or to respond or not. I spend a lot more time reading than I do posting. I know rainbow is a huge responsibility and that's even more of a reason to do more research. Even if I had several years and was very skilled at raising reticulated pythons, I'm sure they will bring you things to learn everyday.

Besides learning from other people's mistakes is way better than learning from your own.

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ok imma continue to bust your chops. ;)

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Originally Posted by cchardwick

Awesome! I always thought it would be neat to have a big room for the retic, something like a 10' x 20' display, maybe with a water feature on one side and a dry side on the other. Something like you mentioned above would be neat for a small retic but you would probably need something a bit bigger for a larger one, otherwise it might just get knocked over. I would love to some day have a setup something like this, maybe with a fountain at one end and some low branches to climb:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...etic-water.jpg

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Yep. I know would be difficult to upkeep but how awesome would that be if was safe and practical. I know I would have to custom build anything that would even have a chance of working. He would also have to be heavy and very heavy. I'm looking at buying a four-bedroom house. To the rooms will be dedicated to my snakes. With the setup that big you would literally walk into the enclosure. A couple of challenges with that would be you would be on snakes territory at that point not your own.

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Ever think of a grow tent? They are being used more and more for large lizards like tegus and monitors all the time. If you don't want to give up a room you cna setup a 8x10 or 10x10 and have racks for ledges and a kiddy pool for soaking along with light and heat.

They a e insanely durable and are something you can break down and store easily if you need the room back.

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Originally Posted by SDA

Ever think of a grow tent? They are being used more and more for large lizards like tegus and monitors all the time. If you don't want to give up a room you cna setup a 8x10 or 10x10 and have racks for ledges and a kiddy pool for soaking along with light and heat.

They a e insanely durable and are something you can break down and store easily if you need the room back.

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Send link. You have my attention.

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The only stupid question is the one not asked. If you have a question, ask it.

As for the waterfall. It's a bad idea for a retic. Since this is your first retic, my advice is keep everything simple. Retics are nosey by nature and will find a way to break or get stuck in something if they can lol.

My experience is dont use silk vines that have any kind of loop in them. Caesar got stuck in a loop when he was a baby and i had to cut the loop off him which was really stuck to him as he kept trying to squeeze into it to get out.

If you want to fancy up the cage, thats fine. Just use stuff like silk vines with no loops, some driftwood or Mopani or Manzanita wood.

After you have had your retic for awhile, you will learn its personality. Then you can decide what to do. Like Caesar is a trouble maker. Flat out. If he can find a way to break, get stuck in or poop on something, he generally will. I have learned this so i gotta give him stuff that he cant do any of the three things too, or at least the first two.

Anyways, waterfall is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by SDA

Ever think of a grow tent? They are being used more and more for large lizards like tegus and monitors all the time. If you don't want to give up a room you cna setup a 8x10 or 10x10 and have racks for ledges and a kiddy pool for soaking along with light and heat.

They a e insanely durable and are something you can break down and store easily if you need the room back.

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Not sure i would use something like that for a full sized mainland retic. They are extremely strong and determined. And a full sized mainland female is going to be heavy.

Also curious as to where you saw monitors being used in these things. Monitors dig A LOT. Monitor enclosures need like 4 feet deep of dirt if done right a long with basking areas of up to 110-120F. Now this is for the stuff i had like Nile Monitors and Savannah Monitors. If you are talking small stuff like Ackies, that is a different story. But a full size large monitor like a Nile, Roughneck, Crocodile etc would easily tear through it or wreck it. My nile broke a sheet rock wall with his tail when he took a shot at a friend of mine which he hated for some reason. And he was about 4-5 feet.

But anyways, for a retic, i would want something very strong. I have had Caesar push plastic locks open on tubs just from pushing so hard they literally popped off. I have also had Caesar slide open an AP cage door but Dottie and Rosey both have done that too lol.

Plus in a fabric/flexible cage like that, if the snake struck and missed and somehow got a tooth stuck on the stuff, it would either rip the tooth out or rip the cage wall open.

Stick to a solid wall cage like PVC or plywood for something as strong and large as a retic. Especially since this is your first retic. You need to first learn how smart, strong and determined they can be. Plus i dont think you really grasp the concept of the size and mass of a large female mainland. Even Caesar at only 8-9 feet is a handful for me when he decides he wants to go somewhere. And he is a very laid retic with a weird personality of liking attention and petting. i couldnt imagine a not so happy go lucky personality 18 foot retic lol.

Sauzo, they put them on their side, fill them partially with dirt and use them. Works until a permanent enclosure can be built for an juvenile. Nobody in their right mind would use a grow tent for say a full size croc monitor or black throat and anyone that can afford to keep those can afford a full size permanent enclosure. These however are used as temp housing and quarantine rooms for young ones.

I am also not talking keeping a snake in there to live, this would be an enrichment play room so it doesn't escape. I guess I didn't make that clear.

Seriously if you can't build or buy a proper enclosure for a large reptile, you aren't ready for one. Main reason I don't keep them. I don't have the time and patience. Not sure what you thought I was assuming but I'm not stupid enough to suggest this as an enclosure. ;)

As for a link, google grow tents. Growace is one site. Check your state for laws on hydroponic equipment. Some states are a little archaic.

I totally thought you were suggesting using it as a perm. enclosure as well. Glad you clarified as I agree, not a good idea for caging a large snake. :gj:

I too thought you meant as a permanent home lol. For quarantine i guess but to me that seems kind of large for a quarantine. Imagine having to treat that size cage for mites lol.

For me, both my monitors were babies when i got them. My Nile was pretty much a hatchling and my Savannah was only about 6-8 inches long. So i didnt need a huge cage for them.

And yeah, you could use it for enrichment area but assuming you are getting something like 8 or 10 feet long, that really should be the size of the normal cage for a mainland anyways. So to me, would seem pointless. I would just give them the room of a spare room as long as its made reticproof lol. I know a lot of people say 6 feet is big enough of a cage for a mainland......i disagree but that is another argument lol.

And i agree in that if you cant provide the proper caging and needs for a large reptile, then stick to smaller stuff. Heck I'm trying to figure where to put in an AP T65 8x3 cage in the 'mancave/snake room' just in case Caesar doesnt stop growing lol.

They make all sorts of sizes from a 2 foot by 2 foot footprint to 10x20 feet so people use them for all different reptiles now for quick setups, The great thing about them is they are water tight on the bottom and sides so you cna have something that likes to splash around without worrying about ruining the hard wood floors and drywall. Plus you can break it down fast and store it in a closet when you want the room back ;)

So with this fountains (I have one) they need to be cleaned every 10-15 days. Like full clean, meaning pull out the pump, dismantle it and clean or they get scummy very quickly. I would not recommend with snakes. Now a turtle fountain with huge filter, maybe.

I'd definitely avoid fountains like those for snakes. I can already see it being more work than it's worth. Between it tipping and being soiled with poop/urates and substrate I'm guessing it would require pretty much daily cleaning to function properly. I also wouldn't want anything with any mechanical parts inside my enclosures, just to be safe.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

don't go away! i really wanna see Rainbow grow and have a good life. i do my share of helping noobs and peeps on the forum but i also do my share of teasing and i will call anyone out on something i think is wrong.

u made a big jump from BP's to an advance snake very quickly IMO. (even if u had Boa's or whatever previously) it's fair to ask good questions and there are plenty of peeps who can help u out here on the forum. but basic questions like can i handle my snake that i just fed and who is hiding? will get me shaking my head.

research, learn, seek good advice, share, enjoy, laugh, repeat. ;)


Edit: also this is just my perspective. others may disagree.

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I agree 100%. Not everybody agrees with Ax or myself, but Ax has proven to be one of the most helpful members on this forum in the year and change I've been a member. He no doubt likes to have fun, and the world sorely needs that. In today's society of EVERYthing ANYbody says offending SOMEbody and people being so easily butthurt it's refreshing to have some laughs.

The flip side of that is that Ax also knows his stuff, cares whole heartedly about the animals and is always happy to help where he can.

That combo of fun and help, in my opinion, makes Ax an invaluable member of the forum and I'm glad I've gotten to "know" him through this forum.

I've already voiced my two cents on Rainbow being a big jump, so no need to reiterate what I already said. I hope it works out for Skyrivers and Rainbow, but I'm still concerned the cart may have been put before the horse. I hope I'm wrong, rehoming a 10+ foot retic is a lot harder than rehoming a 4 foot BP.

Thanks everyone for your opinions and thoughts. I think for now the fountain idea is off the list. I would love a natural looking rock fountain but the negatives out weigh the benefits at this point. I want rainbow to have a great enclosure but also want it safe and practical. I am open to other ideas on making a great enclosure for her. Has anyone used driftwood in their reptile tanks? I found one at the beach and am drying it out in a warm room downstairs. Might bake it to sterilize it then seal it up. Is this a bad idea?

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I agree 100%. Not everybody agrees with Ax or myself, but Ax has proven to be one of the most helpful members on this forum in the year and change I've been a member. He no doubt likes to have fun, and the world sorely needs that. In today's society of EVERYthing ANYbody says offending SOMEbody and people being so easily butthurt it's refreshing to have some laughs.

The flip side of that is that Ax also knows his stuff, cares whole heartedly about the animals and is always happy to help where he can.

That combo of fun and help, in my opinion, makes Ax an invaluable member of the forum and I'm glad I've gotten to "know" him through this forum.

I've already voiced my two cents on Rainbow being a big jump, so no need to reiterate what I already said. I hope it works out for Skyrivers and Rainbow, but I'm still concerned the cart may have been put before the horse. I hope I'm wrong, rehoming a 10+ foot retic is a lot harder than rehoming a 4 foot BP.

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I agree with you about needing to take things lightly and enjoy a good poke in the ribs every now and then. I was also joking with him. If you read carefully you will see my response to his next post.

I know a large retic will be $$ and time and energy to care for. I know I have a lot to learn but don't we all? I hope to grow with Rainbow and look forward to building her a fantastic enclosure in my new house I am buying later this year. I am at a point in my life where my only responsibility out side of myself is my pets and have devoted my life to their care, love, and health.

I hope to use Rainbow (as long as she is ok with it) to do educational shows. It scares me to see so many people acquiring cute babies but not understanding the mass and strength they have full grown. My respect for her is as huge as her personality and trust me she has personality. I love my other snakes but she is by far the quickest and most energetic and interesting to handle of all my snakes.