Candy ball pythons

I'm wondering how long do candy ball pythons hold their lavender and orange. From the few photos I've seen they turn a tan and like a light brown as adults, almost like adult ultramels does this happen within a few years or does it take longer?

Most Candy will attain their full colour by 12-18 months or so, though I have a friend who said one of his changed slowly until about 24 months

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Originally Posted by asplundii

Most Candy will attain their full colour by 12-18 months or so, though I have a friend who said one of his changed slowly until about 24 months

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I find it so strange how many BP morphs end up looking the same. If the photos I've seen are to be believed candy, toffee and ultramel all are very similar as adults. Kind of a shame when you think of how they start out as juveniles.

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Originally Posted by OTorresUSMC

I find it so strange how many BP morphs end up looking the same. If the photos I've seen are to be believed candy, toffee and ultramel all are very similar as adults. Kind of a shame when you think of how they start out as juveniles.

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Well Candy and Toffee are the exact same mutation so it is no surprise that they look alike :gj:

As far as Ultramel... They are a fair bit darker as adults that Candy/Toffee.

If you like the lighter look of young Candy/Toffee then I would suggest picking up a CandIno or ToffIno, they stay really nice into adulthood

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Originally Posted by asplundii

Well Candy and Toffee are the exact same mutation so it is no surprise that they look alike :gj:

As far as Ultramel... They are a fair bit darker as adults that Candy/Toffee.

If you like the lighter look of young Candy/Toffee then I would suggest picking up a CandIno or ToffIno, they stay really nice into adulthood

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Didn't know toffee and candy were the same. Thanks for that. I finally picked up an ultramel which overall are my favorite. If money weren't an issue id have one of so many morphs lol. I envy breeders who have the ability to own hundreds of different snake.

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Originally Posted by OTorresUSMC

Didn't know toffee and candy were the same. Thanks for that. I finally picked up an ultramel which overall are my favorite. If money weren't an issue id have one of so many morphs lol. I envy breeders who have the ability to own hundreds of different snake.

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I don’t know much about morphs either. So many look alike to me, as well. But Semper Fi brother!


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Originally Posted by OTorresUSMC

Didn't know toffee and candy were the same. Thanks for that. I finally picked up an ultramel which overall are my favorite. If money weren't an issue id have one of so many morphs lol. I envy breeders who have the ability to own hundreds of different snake.

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Nice. Enjoy your ultramel! They are pretty! Post pictures if/when you can.

I hear you on the many morphs; it's hard to have just one! Not sure I envy breeders though, that sounds like a lot of work, and poop, lot's of poop too!

Seriously, enjoy your new addition.

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I know the sacrifices you make for the rest of us; sincerely, thank you (you too Sgt7212).

Appreciate the kind words dakski. And Semper Fi Sgt7212!! My ultramel girl is in shed right now but I'll get some pics up as soon as she's out. Many plans for her once she makes weight. May actually need to pick up an ultra male since I have a couple different genes I want to work in.

Having a small collection is pretty time consuming as well, ehhh 20 animals in total but 6 BPs and my Boa still take time lol I’m wicked ocd with my husbandry and it drives me bonkers when they bulldoze everything lol

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Having a small collection is pretty time consuming as well, ehhh 20 animals in total but 6 BPs and my Boa still take time lol I’m wicked ocd with my husbandry and it drives me bonkers when they bulldoze everything lol

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Semper Fi brother! Looks like the Marines have landed on BP.net 🦅[emoji289]⚓️ [emoji631]


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Didn't know toffee and candy were the same. Thanks for that. I finally picked up an ultramel which overall are my favorite. If money weren't an issue id have one of so many morphs lol. I envy breeders who have the ability to own hundreds of different snake.

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Yeah... You hang around the hobby long enough and you start to hear all the origin stories. The original Toffee and Candy were brought in together in the same bag from the same shipment by an importer. The Toffee went to Craig and the Candy went to Pete (via an intermediary).

I hear you on the "one of every morph" feeling. Been there, done that. What I have found is that once you actually get your hands on some of the morphs you are not as enthralled by them as you were when they were unattainable pictures on a screen. Find the things you are most passionate about and work on refining them.

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Yeah... You hang around the hobby long enough and you start to hear all the origin stories. The original Toffee and Candy were brought in together in the same bag from the same shipment by an importer. The Toffee went to Craig and the Candy went to Pete (via an intermediary).

I hear you on the "one of every morph" feeling. Been there, done that. What I have found is that once you actually get your hands on some of the morphs you are not as enthralled by them as you were when they were unattainable pictures on a screen. Find the things you are most passionate about and work on refining them.

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I hear you there. I guess what I'm most drawn to are the more extreme color and pattern variances. Oh and full dorsals with retained side pattern. Love that. Definitely not one of every hahaha but if money were not a factor I would likely have at least 50 different snakes. For now I plan on just doing small scale breeding to combine the morphs I like. I'm sure they'll all be produced and available for sale before I produce them but there's a feeling of satisfaction in making your own lol.

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I'm sure they'll all be produced and available for sale before I produce them but there's a feeling of satisfaction in making your own lol.

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Nothing more satisfying than making it yourself. I nailed Candino Womas this past season, that was an eight-year project LOL. Still much more satisfying than if I had bought them three or four years ago. Plus, as I have been selectively breeding my Albinos, Candinos, and Womas the whole time, the pair I ended up with look exactly the way I want them too and are not something I am just settling for just so I can say I have the combo.

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Oh and full dorsals with retained side pattern. Love that.

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Hmmm... I may have some fun things for you in a few seasons then LOL. I have three distinct stripe projects I am working on

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Nothing more satisfying than making it yourself. I nailed Candino Womas this past season, that was an eight-year project LOL. Still much more satisfying than if I had bought them three or four years ago. Plus, as I have been selectively breeding my Albinos, Candinos, and Womas the whole time, the pair I ended up with look exactly the way I want them too and are not something I am just settling for just so I can say I have the combo.




Hmmm... I may have some fun things for you in a few seasons then LOL. I have three distinct stripe projects I am working on

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8 years??!! I hope my little projects dont take that long lol. At least my immediate ones that is. I've never been one for patience haha but I think the good thing with BP breeding is you can produce great looking animals while still on the road to your target combo. If you work with the right genes that is. The question is if the money wasn't a factor would I prefer to breed to them or just buy them. Breeding has costs all it's own but it can tend to be spread out and you can potentially recoup by selling what you dont keep. But there's the risk of not being able to sell them and having too many animals. In any event i guess the decision is made for me as I don't have the income to drop 2-5K per snake that I would want. Plus I honestly find breeding fun. I'll be interested to see what you have full dorsal wise. One of my favorite snakes right now is my female Rio. Full clean dorsal with lots of side pattern and good color changes. I'm not much for Gstripes or superstripe. Tho I recently did see a superstripe combo that added more side pattern but can't remember what was in it

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8 years??!! I hope my little projects dont take that long lol.

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Yes well... I had a couple stubborn females LOL.

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I'll be interested to see what you have full dorsal wise... I'm not much for Gstripes...

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Ever since PhotoBucket became jerks I kinda fell off trying to post pics but if you find me on FB you can see some of my stuff there.

My two main stripe projects are Cypress and RedStripe/RedDevil. My other is a dinker girl that has a complete dorsal stripe that will, one day, be bred back to her son to see if it is heritable in any manner.

I also tend to pick up or hold back animals with more prominently expressed dorsal stripes so there are a lot of striped/partial striped animals in my collection.

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...or superstripe. Tho I recently did see a superstripe combo that added more side pattern but can't remember what was in it

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If I could get hold of a breeder Specter female I have an Ivory Butter OD Pastel male that would likely make for some insane SuperStripe combos. But I am not motivated enough to buy a female Specter hatchling and raise it up for the next three years to try LOL