Morph confusion

How do i know if my snake is the morph the dude ssays it is?? *vanilla spider ghost*

Share pics, there are plenty of qualified keepers and breeders on this forum who can help you out

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Originally Posted by Babygecko

How do i know if my snake is the morph the dude ssays it is?? *vanilla spider ghost*

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1# You should buy from a REPUTABLE breeder.

2# You should only start buying mutations when you are capable of identifying basic mutation yourself.

If you do not do either you will be at the mercy of others.

Post a picture and we will see.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

2# You should only start buying mutations when you are capable of identifying basic mutation yourself.

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^ this.

i think this is something that isn't said enough. if you're truly interested in the genetics, and are buying a multi-gene animal, i'd assume you'd do some basic research on the morph(s) especially with this kind of price tag. WOPB is easily found through google searches.
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How do i upload a pic so you guys can help me identify my new snake?? *new here*

I use Imgur to host images so I can post them here. I think you can use the Tapatalk app to post images too but I don't use that.

Many of us, myself included, us the free app tapatalk. It connects you to tons of forums and makes uploading pics super simple.

you can host the image to Imgur.com and share the link here, or you can download the free app Tapatalk on your smartphone and post photos directly from your phone.

EDIT: supa slow on this response lol

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Originally Posted by Babygecko

How do i upload a pic so you guys can help me identify my new snake?? *new here*

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check this thread out: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-Post-Pictures it's like 5 different ways to upload your pix.

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Thank you :) im going to try both.

The dude posted him on craigslist in need to get rid of him .. His mom is terrified of snakes... So i took the snake in. Ive had many ball pythons.. Not crazy morphs..a couple albinos and pastel. Im just curious as to what you guys think.. Didnt mean to aggitate . .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c8ea7b033f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06899f904b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7726308f10.jpg

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Wow nice, he’s just a little dude. Maybe Debra can tell you now.

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

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Its a little more vibrant yellow then what the pic shows.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...df0226fb84.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...91aa2c246e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6c9c99cad9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e14dbb2650.jpg

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Originally Posted by Babygecko

Its a little more vibrant yellow then what the pic shows.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...df0226fb84.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...91aa2c246e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6c9c99cad9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e14dbb2650.jpg

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Sorry my phone glitched and posted twice

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i'm not seeing any Spider but he definitely looks like a Hypo (Ghost) Vanilla.

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Originally Posted by Sonny1318

Wow nice, he’s just a little dude. Maybe Debra can tell you now.

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I searched what the dude said he was.. And he looks nothing like the pics. Its confusing. Hes so beautiful. I want to know his morph so i can breed him and keep his coloration pattern going.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i'm not seeing any Spider but he definitely looks like a Hypo (Ghost) Vanilla.

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Hypo vanilla. Thats pretty.

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Originally Posted by Babygecko

Hypo vanilla. Thats pretty.

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your snake is prettier. [emoji14]

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

your snake is prettier. [emoji14]

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I think it looks like a butter ghost vanilla. Check it out and tell me what u think...another question...what would be a good morph to mix his genes with?? In your personal opinion.

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First thought.hmmmmm what morph is this?
second though.hmmmm what morph should I breed him to

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Originally Posted by Babygecko

I think it looks like a butter ghost vanilla. Check it out and tell me what u think...another question...what would be a good morph to mix his genes with?? In your personal opinion.

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i'm no morph expert, but i'm not seeing any sign of Lesser in the pattern.

in regards to breeding: take a beat and get to know your new pet before you start thinking of other ones. [emoji6]

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Originally Posted by DandD

First thought.hmmmmm what morph is this?
second though.hmmmm what morph should I breed him to

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Just wondering lol

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i'm no morph expert, but i'm not seeing any sign of Lesser in the pattern.

in regards to breeding: take a beat and get to know your new pet before you start thinking of other ones. [emoji6]

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Of course. Im prob gonna start next year. For now just collecting.

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Originally Posted by DandD

First thought.hmmmmm what morph is this?
second though.hmmmm what morph should I breed him to

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Why would you want to breed something you are getting from CL and that you are unsure of when it comes to the mutation including lineage?

Lineage is important when it comes to specific mutations such as Hypo, people want to know the line you are working with and whether it is compatible or not with what they have.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Why would you want to breed something you are getting from CL and that you are unsure of when it comes to the mutation including lineage?

Lineage is important when it comes to specific mutations such as Hypo, people want to know the line you are working with and whether it is compatible or not with what they have.

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Here we go again.. The daily Go Getters.. Don't know a thing about a thing and want to produce more things.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Why would you want to breed something you are getting from CL and that you are unsure of when it comes to the mutation including lineage?

Lineage is important when it comes to specific mutations such as Hypo, people want to know the line you are working with and whether it is compatible or not with what they have.

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I sell locally on CL, because I don't have shipping set up and I always keep track of my lineage for the snakes I purchase and produce.

All of my breeders came from bigger named breeders though. So it is recommended to buy from a breeder that can provide proof and whatnot.

but remember that some people do have to start somewhere to get known, including CL and facebook.
Almost all of the 2017s I produced sold through CL.

I think they just want some ideas for down the road, they have time to learn about identifying basic morphs and how they work with each other.

I kept bps for 8 years as pets before I started breeding but wanted to breed my own to make stuff I couldn't afford and to learn more about their genetics.

My suggestion to the OP would be to look on worldofballpythons.com to see what kind of basic morphs they like best, learn about what that gene does.

Beautiful bp btw, it's definitely a ghost vanilla. Did he say where he purchased the snake from when you bought it?

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Just want to give my .02 cents say that snake does have the spider gene, but maybe with a pattern enhancing gene added in. The spider headstamp is often lost with the addition of different pattern-influencing genes but the spider body pattern is still very apparent on this guy. Also definitely has hypo and a lightening gene, like vanilla or pastel. I personally think the label is either correct and you have a busy patterned vanilla spider ghost, or the animal is mislabeled and you have a hypo spider combo that possibly includes (my best guess) mojave AND either vanilla or pastel. I tend to lean towards the former on account of the missing headstamp.

When I saw the pictures it struck me as looking very similar to the mojave humblebees I’ve seen, but without knowing lineage it is just a guess. At the very least your snake is a hypo spider with at least 1 other gene added in.

Do some research, increase your knowledge of different base morphs, how they tend to react when combined with one another etc, and you will be better able to tell what you’re buying and if the person you’re buying from is being legit ;) Don’t worry about breeding just yet, enjoy the snakes you have and when it comes a time they’re big and old enough you can do the research and decide if you really want the work and commitment of breeding, incubating, hatching, raising, and finding homes for the potential babies.