Rack temps?

Hi. I recently set up a DIY rack and got my tubs to 90 degrees using heat mate and thermostat but when i put paper in the tub the temp dropped to 85 degrees, should i increase the temp to make it 90 degrees on the paper or leave it alone? I used a laser temp gun for testing. Also i put a hide on the hot end and the temp in the hide is hotter than everywhere else so if i raise the temps the hot hide will be very hot.
Thanks for your time and help.
Neil.

where is your thermostat probe located?

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

where is your thermostat probe located?

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It is taped onto the heat mat using foil tape.

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Originally Posted by Neilp

It is taped onto the heat mat using foil tape.

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the paper is probably dispersing the heat above the heat mat. i'd increase the temperature on the thermostat and monitor the temperature at the BOTTOM of the tub until you've hit your mark. for example: my rack is set to 95° F to achieve a 90° F hot spot.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

the paper is probably dispersing the heat above the heat mat. i'd increase the temperature on the thermostat and monitor the temperature at the BOTTOM of the tub until you've hit your mark. for example: my rack is set to 95° F to achieve a 90° F hot spot.

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My heat mat is under the tub, would the paper have the same affect?

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Originally Posted by Neilp

My heat mat is under the tub, would the paper have the same affect?

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i'm confused by your question. :) would the paper have the same affect as what?

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i'm confused by your question. :) would the paper have the same affect as what?

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I thought you were thinking my heat mat was inside the tub lol. Sorry for my confusion lol
If i take the paper out the tub it will go back to 90, so are you saying i should raise the temp till my laser pointing at the paper is 90 degrees? What about my hot hide being very hot? It would be about 95 plus.

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Originally Posted by Neilp

I thought you were thinking my heat mat was inside the tub lol. Sorry for my confusion lol
If i take the paper out the tub it will go back to 90, so are you saying i should raise the temp till my laser pointing at the paper is 90 degrees? What about my hot hide being very hot? It would be about 95 plus.

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when you're dialing in a hot spot, you need to be measuring the temp at the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM of the inside of the tub. the snake WILL get below the paper if they need the extra heat. and where are you measuring the temps that you're getting 95°+ F?

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i'm confused by your question. :) would the paper have the same affect as what?

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Basically i think what im asking is should i take the temp reading from the paper not the tub? Ie point the laser temp gun at the paper above the heat mat area till it reaches 90 degrees.
Thanks for your help.

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Originally Posted by Neilp

Basically i think what im asking is should i take the temp reading from the paper not the tub? Ie point the laser temp gun at the paper above the heat mat area till it reaches 90 degrees.
Thanks for your help.

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no, below the paper. you need to regulate the absolute hottest part of the tub your snake can touch, which is over the hot spot BELOW the paper.

and it's my pleasure. :)

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

no, below the paper. you need to regulate the absolute hottest part of the tub your snake can touch, which is over the hot spot BELOW the paper.

and it's my pleasure. :)

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I am a different person, but what if I have hide over the paper towel? hide being little heavy and snake won't able to lift it to go under the paper towel, do I still measure the temp under paper towel? or over paper towel where hide is at?

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

when you're dialing in a hot spot, you need to be measuring the temp at the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM of the inside of the tub. the snake WILL get below the paper if they need the extra heat. and where are you measuring the temps that you're getting 95°+ F?

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Let me tell you what i did. I got my tubs to 90 degrees over heat mat then put the paper in which then made the temp drop to about 85 apart from where i put a hide which stayed around 90, so if i raise the temp to get the tub back yo 90 then the hide will raise by another 5 degrees i assume.

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Originally Posted by gusanr14

I am a different person, but what if I have hide over the paper towel? hide being little heavy and snake won't able to lift it to go under the paper towel, do I still measure the temp under paper towel? or over paper towel where hide is at?

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yes, you measure underneath your paper towel. even if you THINK the snake can't get under there, i'd be willing to wager a bet that they WILL eventually. you need to measure from the ABSOLUTE HOTTEST part of the enclosure, otherwise you do not know the temperature of the hot spot, your hot spot will be running too hot, and you risk a burn.

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Originally Posted by Neilp

Let me tell you what i did. I got my tubs to 90 degrees over heat mat then put the paper in which then made the temp drop to about 85 apart from where i put a hide which stayed around 90, so if i raise the temp to get the tub back yo 90 then the hide will raise by another 5 degrees i assume.

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i think you should experiment with raising the temp and checking that hot hide. the snake will be spending most of their time inside the hide, so absolutely take your measurement from inside the hide below the paper.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i think you should experiment with raising the temp and checking that hot hide. the snake will be spending most of their time inside the hide, so absolutely take your measurement from inside the hide below the paper.

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Yep more experiments needed lol. Thanks for the help mate.

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Originally Posted by Neilp

Yep more experiments needed lol. Thanks for the help mate.

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a big part of snake keeping involves independent research and figuring out what works for YOU as well as your snake(s). not everyone uses the same equipment, or lives in the same climate as you, so it's up to you to determine how you achieve proper husbandry.

if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. ;)

I struggle with this too, as far as temps on the tub floor, and temps above the paper where they lay. I’ve come to a compromise, where I have it about 92 on the tub and 87-88 on the paper. Both of the temps are on the ideal range, so I’ve finally come to a fine-tuned solution.


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Originally Posted by Godzilla78

I struggle with this too, as far as temps on the tub floor, and temps above the paper where they lay. I’ve come to a compromise, where I have it about 92 on the tub and 87-88 on the paper. Both of the temps are on the ideal range, so I’ve finally come to a fine-tuned solution.
That sounds like a good idea. Do you have the same issue with your hide temp being hotter than everywhere else?

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