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Pvc Enclosure questions

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  • 10-02-2017, 06:45 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Pvc Enclosure questions
    I wanna get my Ball python jeffree a pvc enclosure but I have a few questions for those of you who have them before I make the decision. I've seen a few pictures from people who have them and I never see heat lights or che how are they heated specifically the ambient temperature also I've seen that people use flex watt (heat tape) for belly heat would a UTH work as Well? Another question is 48 X 24 X 12 too big for a bp if so what size is perfect for a bp for a life time ? Thanks in advance to anyone who responds.

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  • 10-02-2017, 06:50 PM
    BR8080
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    I use radiant heat panels from Pro Products in all my enclosures.

    48"x24"x12" will be fine for an adult bp

    good luck.
  • 10-02-2017, 06:54 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BR8080 View Post
    I use radiant heat panels from Pro Products in all my enclosures.

    48"x24"x12" will be fine for an adult bp

    good luck.

    Do radiant heat panels provide ambient?

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  • 10-02-2017, 07:16 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    Do radiant heat panels provide ambient?

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    yes
  • 10-02-2017, 07:24 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    yes

    Thank you :)

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  • 10-02-2017, 07:28 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    Thank you :)

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    i have an 80 W RHP in Yellow's T8 and it's wonderful.
  • 10-02-2017, 07:35 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    i have an 80 W RHP in Yellow's T8 and it's wonderful.

    What do you use for the belly heat? Also is a herpstat probably the best thermostat for that

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  • 10-02-2017, 07:37 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    What do you use for the belly heat? Also is a herpstat probably the best thermostat for that

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    i use both a UTH and the RHP since i already had the UTH for him. technically if i upped the ambient temp from 80° i wouldn't need the belly heat, but he's spoiled.

    both UTH and RHP are regulated by a Herpstat 2
  • 10-02-2017, 07:51 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    i use both a UTH and the RHP since i already had the UTH for him. technically if i upped the ambient temp from 80° i wouldn't need the belly heat, but he's spoiled.

    both UTH and RHP are regulated by a Herpstat 2

    He sounds very spoiled!!! And thank you so much oh one more question sorry to be annoying the little ventilation holes in the cages are those sufficient enough for does it need more drilled in?

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  • 10-02-2017, 07:52 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    He sounds very spoiled!!! And thank you so much oh one more question sorry to be annoying the little ventilation holes in the cages are those sufficient enough for does it need more drilled in?

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    the ventilation is perfect. the only hole i needed to make was for the thermostat probe for the RHP.
  • 10-02-2017, 07:55 PM
    omglolchrisss
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    the ventilation is perfect. the only hole i needed to make was for the thermostat probe for the RHP.

    Kk thank You!! All my questions are answered and more you're awesome!!

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  • 10-02-2017, 08:24 PM
    BR8080
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omglolchrisss View Post
    Do radiant heat panels provide ambient?

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    As Taylor said...yes, they provide excellent ambient temps. I just drilled a hole large enough to squeeze the probe through on the back and let it hang inside the enclosure on the "cool" side. I have my Herpstat set at 81 and it's perfect. Nice 88-90 hot spot and 81 ambient.
  • 10-02-2017, 08:27 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BR8080 View Post
    As Taylor said...yes, they provide excellent ambient temps. I just drilled a hole large enough to squeeze the probe through on the back and let it hang inside the enclosure on the "cool" side. I have my Herpstat set at 81 and it's perfect. Nice 88-90 hot spot and 81 ambient.

    do you provide belly heat or just use the RHP? j/c
  • 10-03-2017, 12:05 AM
    Slytherin's Mommy
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    I want to make my big girl something like this because she is out growing her enclosures. I need help on how to heat it and how to have humidity right. Any suggestions will be welcome.

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  • 10-03-2017, 07:41 AM
    BR8080
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    do you provide belly heat or just use the RHP? j/c

    Just the RHP and they are all doing very well.
  • 10-03-2017, 09:25 AM
    ckuhn003
    Just a few thoughts on my pvc enclosure....

    I picked mine up at the local Repticon not knowing much about them but knowing that I didn't want to use a tub (visual reasons) or a glass tank (feedback on this site about being high maintenance). I didn't have a BP at the time but knew if I bought the enclosure it would force me to pull the trigger on my 1st snake :)

    I ended up buying a (36 x 12 x 12) but I so wish I would of gotten something deeper then 12 inches because once you put the hides in, space is limited to get in there and do what you need to do; let alone for the snake to explore.

    I also ended up putting a UTH on each end because I was having trouble getting the cool side surface temp above 75. If I could do it over again, I would go the RHP route.

    As for humidity, mine hovers between 70 -90ish. These enclosures do a great job in keeping it humid.
  • 10-03-2017, 10:21 AM
    Slytherin's Mommy
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BR8080 View Post
    Just the RHP and they are all doing very well.

    No

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  • 10-03-2017, 10:35 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BR8080 View Post
    Just the RHP and they are all doing very well.

    is yours mounted over the warm side with the probe on the cool side? what temps do you get? sorry for the questions; i'm thinking about my next PVC setup.
  • 10-03-2017, 10:41 AM
    Newbie39
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    I am closely following this thread as well for my next enclosure.:)
  • 10-03-2017, 11:02 AM
    SDA
    UGH! Reading the posts across this forum make RHP setups so confusing. UTH or no UTH, probe on cool side or warm side, probe up high or down low, do they up ambient temp or no, pro products or RBI... the debate is enough to make your head spin.

    I should have mine in this month and I am still not 100% on how to get it positioned to where I want my temps.

    I just wish there was a more definitive answer on how to go about controlling temperatures in a PVC enclosure with a RHP. There is so much conflicting information here that it makes for a tough time to figure out how to set these up.

    So yes, I am following this as well to try and get a better understanding of what to do. To me, RHPs are no different than CHEs just emitting less surface temperature. Because of that belief I am planning my setup around how I currently keep my glass enclosure just replacing a RHP for the current CHE.

    My CHE provides excellent ambient temperature control and since the thermodynamic principles are identical I see no reason not to use them the same.
  • 10-03-2017, 11:08 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    UGH! Reading the posts across this forum make RHP setups so confusing. UTH or no UTH, probe on cool side or warm side, probe up high or down low, do they up ambient temp or no, pro products or RBI... the debate is enough to make your head spin.

    I should have mine in this month and I am still not 100% on how to get it positioned to where I want my temps.

    I just wish there was a more definitive answer on how to go about controlling temperatures in a PVC enclosure with a RHP. There is so much conflicting information here that it makes for a tough time to figure out how to set these up.

    So yes, I am following this as well to try and get a better understanding of what to do. To me, RHPs are no different than CHEs just emitting less surface temperature. Because of that belief I am planning my setup around how I currently keep my glass enclosure just replacing a RHP for the current CHE.

    My CHE provides excellent ambient temperature control and since the thermodynamic principles are identical I see no reason not to use them the same.

    everyone's environment, location and even care is different, so there can't be one answer. that's why you need to read as much as you can and, armed with your knowledge, try things out for yourself and see what works for you.

    the only definitive thing for PVC enclosures is you need to create a proper temp gradient and ensure you have stable temps. however you do that - RHP, heating the room+ UTH, RHP + UTH - is up to you. [emoji3]
  • 10-03-2017, 11:30 AM
    SDA
    See this is why I married an architect. I just tell him what I want heated then ignore the hour long explanation of thermodynamics as it applies to confined spaces. :P
  • 10-03-2017, 11:43 AM
    Starscream
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    everyone's environment, location and even care is different, so there can't be one answer. that's why you need to read as much as you can and, armed with your knowledge, try things out for yourself and see what works for you.

    the only definitive thing for PVC enclosures is you need to create a proper temp gradient and ensure you have stable temps. however you do that - RHP, heating the room+ UTH, RHP + UTH - is up to you. [emoji3]

    It's a bit like a science experiment. TEST ALL THE THINGS! :3 (And remember -- the only difference between messing around and science is writing it down. lmao)
  • 10-03-2017, 03:49 PM
    BR8080
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    UGH! Reading the posts across this forum make RHP setups so confusing. UTH or no UTH, probe on cool side or warm side, probe up high or down low, do they up ambient temp or no, pro products or RBI... the debate is enough to make your head spin.

    I should have mine in this month and I am still not 100% on how to get it positioned to where I want my temps.

    I just wish there was a more definitive answer on how to go about controlling temperatures in a PVC enclosure with a RHP. There is so much conflicting information here that it makes for a tough time to figure out how to set these up.

    So yes, I am following this as well to try and get a better understanding of what to do. To me, RHPs are no different than CHEs just emitting less surface temperature. Because of that belief I am planning my setup around how I currently keep my glass enclosure just replacing a RHP for the current CHE.

    My CHE provides excellent ambient temperature control and since the thermodynamic principles are identical I see no reason not to use them the same.

    I keep my house COLD - 65 during the summer, and winter the heat doesn't get turned on until it's 55-60....The RHP's do a great job in the Animal Plastics enclosures with Reptile Prime coco husk substrate....snakes eat, crap, pee, and shed they way they should.
  • 10-03-2017, 05:51 PM
    SDA
    Re: Pvc Enclosure questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BR8080 View Post
    I keep my house COLD - 65 during the summer, and winter the heat doesn't get turned on until it's 55-60....The RHP's do a great job in the Animal Plastics enclosures with Reptile Prime coco husk substrate....snakes eat, crap, pee, and shed they way they should.

    Sounds like my house in the winter. Good to know that RHPs are great for PVCs
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