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Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Couple more pics of him as he seems pretty happy and exploring every inch of the cage but really seems to love the litter dam....what is it with boas and the AP cage litter dams lol. At least he hasn't pooped in the track yet like Gina did when I got her lol. And I love this guys brown top with silver sides and again, the awesome head markings. Cant wait to see his adult colors in a year or 2. And yes, that is an empty T10 below him *gasp* but that cage is reserved for either a Gila or anoter Pokigron Suriname male from Chris Wolf in a few months :) Gina might have a boyfriend haha.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
Very nice boa Sauzo. Congrats on the new addition!
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Nice little guy! I'm glad he is settling in for you. I feel you on the litter dam issues... I've got a hypo that always pushes his nose between the dam and the glass... he has gotten it stuck and had to pull pretty hard to get it out a few times. I'm guessing he is not the smartest boa lol as my others do not do that.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by artgecko
Nice little guy! I'm glad he is settling in for you. I feel you on the litter dam issues... I've got a hypo that always pushes his nose between the dam and the glass... he has gotten it stuck and had to pull pretty hard to get it out a few times. I'm guessing he is not the smartest boa lol as my others do not do that.
Haha, none of my boas have gotten close to getting stuck. They dont really push into it, just kind of look down in there. They mostly love to try and sit on top of it and balance on it with their bodies haha. My BP though has gotten her head wedged in there and had to pull it out with some force. Looked like a cork popping off a champagne bottle lol. My pythons seem to push with a lot more authority where as the boas just peek in there and move on.
And thanks. The breeder asked that i let her know when the snake arrived and to make sure everything looked good. I told her he kind of took a half hearted jab at me kind of and she was surprised. Said he must have been pretty stressed which I dont find surprising as some of the boxes I've received from FedEx were pretty trashed on. Not sure what they do to some of those boxes but my god....but luckily, he doesnt seem too scarred as he has been on a nonstop mission to check everything out with pitstops at the litter dam to perch on it for a few lol.
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Congrats on your good looking boy. I really love how your collection is rounding out!
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Well Louie had his first meal tonight. Was feeding day for Gina so i figured I'd pick up another hopper and see if Louie would eat. He was pretty gung ho about it and even though after he ate, he was scared of me, he sure wasnt scared of dinner haha.
And Gina is a bold girl and seemed to know it was dinner time and came out the cage and hung a little out the door waiting for her mouse. She is stupidly fast at grabbing food lol. She shot out like a bullet to grab her mouse off the tongs haha.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by Sauzo
Well Louie had his first meal tonight. Was feeding day for Gina so i figured I'd pick up another hopper and see if Louie would eat. He was pretty gung ho about it and even though after he ate, he was scared of me, he sure wasnt scared of dinner haha.
And Gina is a bold girl and seemed to know it was dinner time and came out the cage and hung a little out the door waiting for her mouse. She is stupidly fast at grabbing food lol. She shot out like a bullet to grab her mouse off the tongs haha.
Sounds like a good boa night there!😊👍
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The new suction cup boa mod. LOL!
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Lmao! He's not sure he likes it :rofl:
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Avoiding the substrate? That's pretty neat, mine have gone up the sides, but never hung down from the top lol.
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Lol, yeah I've seen my babies do the up the side trick. First time i ever saw one hang though.
And nah, he wasnt avoiding the substrate as he sits on it too. I think it's just with the aspen, its not humid enough in there for him to get a good grip on the glass. With the fresh Reptichips, the humid spikes for a day so he had plenty of moisture on the glass to get a good seal lol.
Now Gina did avoid the Reptichips are first. She was scared of it and wouldnt get off my hand when i tried to put her back lol. I had to put her on top of her warm hide and let her investigate. Now she gives it the seal of approval by sitting half buried under it with just her little head poking out lol.
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^ Oh OK, I was thinking he was like Gina.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by RickyNY
^ Oh OK, I was thinking he was like Gina.
Lol nah, he actually opposite of her. She is completely laid back, never took a shot at me and was scared of the Reptichips at first lol.
Louie is very aware of his surroundings and has struck the air a couple times but i've only had him 5 days so i give him the benefit of the doubt. He does look at me when i look at him though haha. Kind of funny, when I'm holding him, he likes to stretch out on my arm but if i stare at him, he will turn his head and stare at me lol. I think he isnt sure of me yet and thinks i might eat him.
He has mellowed out though since the first day but like Rango, he is very aware and always turning his head to see whats going on.
Kind of weird too as he doesnt use hides at all except to sit on top of. During the day, he just curls up in the back of the cage under the shelf and sleeps. Then at night, he comes out and plays spider snake all night long haha.
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Sauzo, if he likes that corner maybe you can turn it into a hide somehow.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by RickyNY
Sauzo, if he likes that corner maybe you can turn it into a hide somehow.
We'll see. I probably am going to order him the large Reptile Basic hides as it seems the crew loves those.
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Really sharp Sauzo. You have a pretty badass collection going on. Very nice addition!
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Very nice pics! I know you're proud to have such a nice looking little guy. I can't wait until I own a pair of BCL...I think they're pretty much the only boa that I'd want to breed. :)
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Yeah I thought about breeding them too but I think if I am going to breed anything, I will pick up another 100% Rio Bravo Pokigron Suriname from Chris Wolf and breed them.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by Sauzo
And thanks. The breeder asked that i let her know when the snake arrived and to make sure everything looked good. I told her he kind of took a half hearted jab at me kind of and she was surprised. Said he must have been pretty stressed which I dont find surprising as some of the boxes I've received from FedEx were pretty trashed on. Not sure what they do to some of those boxes but my god....but luckily, he doesnt seem too scarred as he has been on a nonstop mission to check everything out with pitstops at the litter dam to perch on it for a few lol.
I worked at UPS for a couple years and how live animals can be shipped through UPS/Fedex has always blown my mind. Considering how I’ve seen packages handled, it’s amazing anything arrives alive.
Assuming it’s being shipped through overnight/2 day/air trailers, your animal will be loaded into anywhere between 1 & 3 trailers and be sent down just as many conveyor belts to be loaded into the next vehicle. Loading the animal from the trailer into the package car to be delivered to your house generally isn’t a problem. That loading is done fairly gently. The problems come when going from trailer to trailer. Those trailers are packed so fast at such a dense volume that loaders do anything to keep up and very rarely stop to check what they are truly loading. ESPECIALLY during this time of year which is peak season.
The worst part is “throw walls” where you build up a wall and then throw smaller packages over top to just be stacked on in no certain order or weight. The good news is that 1/2 day and air trailers typically don’t fill up completely or at the speed the others do so throw walls usually won’t come into play.
Hopefully things are different over at FedEx but if it’s anything like UPS, I can definitely see why these snakes are coming out stressed to the max.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by Codil7
I worked at UPS for a couple years and how live animals can be shipped through UPS/Fedex has always blown my mind. Considering how I’ve seen packages handled, it’s amazing anything arrives alive.
Assuming it’s being shipped through overnight/2 day/air trailers, your animal will be loaded into anywhere between 1 & 3 trailers and be sent down just as many conveyor belts to be loaded into the next vehicle. Loading the animal from the trailer into the package car to be delivered to your house generally isn’t a problem. That loading is done fairly gently. The problems come when going from trailer to trailer. Those trailers are packed so fast at such a dense volume that loaders do anything to keep up and very rarely stop to check what they are truly loading. ESPECIALLY during this time of year which is peak season.
The worst part is “throw walls” where you build up a wall and then throw smaller packages over top to just be stacked on in no certain order or weight. The good news is that 1/2 day and air trailers typically don’t fill up completely or at the speed the others do so throw walls usually won’t come into play.
Hopefully things are different over at FedEx but if it’s anything like UPS, I can definitely see why these snakes are coming out stressed to the max.
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Kind of how I imagined it lol. And I hate UPS. They are slow as slugs in my area. FedEx is so much better.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
Nice pics,I love bcl, I have a pair my self who are two in April, there so cool, I just love there massive head spears
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Been awhile since i posted pics of Louie. He shed a week or so ago and i caught him today relaxing on top of the warm hide and his shelf. Getting darker with each shed and his top is getting more and more yellow.
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So he's getting darker but his top is getting brighter yellow? Wow I want to see him in 2 years!!
Sauzo I got a question, the T8 I got has the radiant heat panel on the roof right above where the heat tape suppose to go, would that get too hot? Should I put the heat tape on the other end? Thanks
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So he's getting darker but his top is getting brighter yellow? Wow I want to see him in 2 years!!
Sauzo I got a question, the T8 I got has the radiant heat panel on the roof right above where the heat tape suppose to go, would that get too hot? Should I put the heat tape on the other end? Thanks
Why are you putting heat tape under the RHP? There is no need to use both. If your room is cold and the ambient in the cage is cold, then just run the RHP and set the probe on the cool side and set the cool side temp to 78F on the t-stat. In a cooler room, a RHP will provide a warm spot as well as warmer ambient since it will come on and stay on longer and you can throw the warm hide under the RHP so it holds more heat too. Where an RHP kind of fails in in warmer rooms where if you set the cool temp to be based on the RHP, it wont come very much and wont create a warm spot. And if you set itbased on the hot side, it will heat up the cool side too much and you wont have a good temp gradient.
But to answer your question, i would run them both on the same side and just use one or the other, but not both.
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^ I think I got it! I thought the RHP was only to keep ambient temp, but Freddy would need a heat tape for belly heat. But you're saying the RHP can do both jobs... Correct? The room Freddy is in is always 80F, but I think the RHP probably cost less (electric bill). In that case I will not use the heater in the room anymore and just use the RHP...but not the heat tape. How that sounds?
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
He’s looking great sauzo, longicauda are just so cool arnt they,is yours super chilled too, except round feed time like
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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^ I think I got it! I thought the RHP was only to keep ambient temp, but Freddy would need a heat tape for belly heat. But you're saying the RHP can do both jobs... Correct? The room Freddy is in is always 80F, but I think the RHP probably cost less (electric bill). In that case I will not use the heater in the room anymore and just use the RHP...but not the heat tape. How that sounds?
Well if the room stays 80F all the time, the RHP wont really create a hot spot or even turn on much. I had that issue which is why i quit using RHPs. I too keep my snake room around 77-79F and with the RHP set to 78F on the cool side, the RHP almost never came on. With it set to 88F on the hot side, it would come on a lot but all that heat would radiate to the cool side and in a 4x2 cage, it would build up to around 83F on the cool side. My boas would push and try and get out all the time.
If you keep the room 80F, i would say just use the flexwatt and you will be fine. And actually, the flexwatt would probably use less heat as 2 feet would be 40 watts if you are using the 11 inch stuff...i think. The RHP would be like 60 or 80 watt. But its kind of wash, both would be very low on power.
And snakes dont 'need' belly heat. I prefer to give it to them though and it's arguable as some believe they should have it and some believe they dont need it. In the wild, i would imagine they kind of bask in tree branches and also on warm objects like rocks and stuff at sunset.
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He’s looking great sauzo, longicauda are just so cool arnt they,is yours super chilled too, except round feed time like
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Now he is. He was really shy when i got him and it took him 2-3 months to calm down and not be so shy. Definitely different than my suriname or BCIs who were outgoing as babies and werent really shy at all. And all my snakes go bonkers during feeding time. It's actually my least favorite time as i have to watch out and use cage doors as shields haha. Caesar, Vicky and Rosey go crazy and being 6+ feet, they hit like freight trains. The little ones arent as bad as they are only about 2-3 feet so i can manage them a lot easier haha.
But yeah, Louie is pretty laid back now.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Originally Posted by Sauzo
Well if the room stays 80F all the time, the RHP wont really create a hot spot or even turn on much. I had that issue which is why i quit using RHPs. I too keep my snake room around 77-79F and with the RHP set to 78F on the cool side, the RHP almost never came on. With it set to 88F on the hot side, it would come on a lot but all that heat would radiate to the cool side and in a 4x2 cage, it would build up to around 83F on the cool side. My boas would push and try and get out all the time.
If you keep the room 80F, i would say just use the flexwatt and you will be fine. And actually, the flexwatt would probably use less heat as 2 feet would be 40 watts if you are using the 11 inch stuff...i think. The RHP would be like 60 or 80 watt. But its kind of wash, both would be very low on power.
And snakes dont 'need' belly heat. I prefer to give it to them though and it's arguable as some believe they should have it and some believe they dont need it. In the wild, i would imagine they kind of bask in tree branches and also on warm objects like rocks and stuff at sunset.
Sauzo, you're my homie!! :bow: Thanks brother.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
Thats good he’s settled then I’ve got two bigger males 6ft albino and a 7ft albino jungle and it’s scary around feed time that’s for sure ,it’s like someone flicks a switch in them and they go and put there angry eyes in,lol
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
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Sauzo, you're my homie!! :bow: Thanks brother.
Lol no problem. I can answer the question because i had the same issues years ago hahaha. Thats why i just switched everyone to flexwatt when i switched everyone over to AP cages.
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Havent taken many pics of Louie in awhile. Only got a couple as i was busy stirring up the cypress in everyones cage. Louie will be 2 years old this July.
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Nice!
He looks great, and really what boa doesn't LOL!
Good to see an update on this one.
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Thanks. Louie is finally settling in and not so shy anymore. BCL seem to be a really shy snake compared to BCIs and BCC. He was really keen on watching my face the first few months i had him lol. Guess he wanted to make sure i wasnt going to eat him. Now he is much more curious and likes to climb up on my neck and sit there or try and perch on top of my head.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
Very nice indeed sauzo
What sort of size is he, mine are two this April.my male is so much smaller than my female, he’s more on the shy side than her too , both have never shown any sort of aggressive behaviour and love being out . She just think your going to feed her all the time,lol
He will only drop feed in the dark too she will eat anything ,any time ,anywhere
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Very nice indeed sauzo
What sort of size is he, mine are two this April.my male is so much smaller than my female, he’s more on the shy side than her too , both have never shown any sort of aggressive behaviour and love being out . She just think your going to feed her all the time,lol
He will only drop feed in the dark too she will eat anything ,any time ,anywhere
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Thanks.
Louie is almost 3 feet. And yeah he was really shy. Only have him so cant compare it to another BCL but compared to my BCI and BCC, he was much more shy and took a lot longer to come out of his shell.
He did take 2 half hearted shots at me when i took him out of the bag. The breeder was surprised as she said he was really laid back. Figured the shipping probably really stressed him or FedEx drop kicked the box or something like that.
As for feeding, he is like my other snakes and just a garbage can. He eats anything, anytime. When i had him in a T8, i would have to lure him out from under the shelf so i could slide a piece of cardboard under him so he didnt eat substrate. I would just hang the mouse and he would stretch out from under the shelf lol. I just kept slowly pulling it further and further and he would just follow it haha. Finally when i got him about to the midway point in the cage, i would let him grab it and then slide the cardboard under him while holding the mouse by the tail with him all wrapped around it.
He was shy but not when it came to food. He was always a good strong eater.
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Re: Meltzer/Lincoln line Peruvian Longtail BCL progression thread
Thanks sauzo,I don’t feel too bad now I’ve just measured him and he is 3ft On serp widgets ,I know your male is a few months younger so my little Etso must be getting the nutrients he needs, The males must just be a lot smaller. I measured the female last week and she 4.5ft long such a massive difference between the two
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Thanks sauzo,I don’t feel too bad now I’ve just measured him and he is 3ft On serp widgets ,I know your male is a few months younger so my little Etso must be getting the nutrients he needs, The males must just be a lot smaller. I measured the female last week and she 4.5ft long such a massive difference between the two
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I dont trust serpwidgets lol. I used to use it but then i would get all kinds of different measurements for the same snake. That thing is too dependent on getting the perfect pic and doing everything perfect or you could be off by feet on your snake lol.
Louie was born July 2016. I would have to look back in the record to see an actual day but he'll be 2 years old this July.
And i imagine Louie will take off here in a month or two as he just got bumped up to weaned rats. Gina is already taking off from the upsize lol.
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I love it when snakes periscope it makes me smile
I also love the freckles on a bcl belly there so cool
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I love it when snakes periscope it makes me smile
I also love the freckles on a bcl belly there so cool
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Me too. Caesar loves to periscope off his litter dam lol.
And yeah, BCL have so many unique things to them like their head and their bellies. Rosey and Gina have speckling too on their bellies but nothing like Louie.
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Yea wow his belly is crazy pretty!!
handsome fella
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