New Reptile!

So, as some of you may or may not know, I unfortunately had to get rid of my bp Nagini today. She was much to aggressive for me to handle and I just didn't have the time, or resources and knowledge, to be able to help her come out of it. As a result, I re-homed her and she now has a home with a nice gentleman who knows more about snakes than I could ever hope to know at this point in my herp journey. HOWEVER, since I had to get rid of her I took the opportunity to fill the open space that she left, with something new. Granted, my girlfriend somewhat talked me into it, but I'm not disappointed with the outcome. Today, we purchased our very first lizard! We got an absolutely beautiful little Leopard Gecko. It is a male (we had him sexed at a pet store different than the one we purchased him from) and his name is Hex! With that said, any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated, as we are obviously pretty new to these guys.

Here is our little guy, Hex!
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Make sure the temps are appropriate. They should be right around 88 on the hot side and 78-80 on the low side. They don't require much in terms of humidity so if that moss is damp, I would remove it.

If you haven't already, I would check out the care sheet for them and purchase anything you need asap that you haven't already bought.

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Congrats! That's a great looking gecko!

My advice would be to research PRIOR to bringing animals home. I think it's unfortunate that you re-homed one animal just to replace it with another.
You cited lack of time and lack of experience for reasons to re-home the snake after only a few months. Now you bring home another animal the same day??

And you just threw it in the same enclosure? Is the enclosure even properly set up? Was it cleaned?

If you didn't have the time or knowledge for one animal, why would you bring another animal home before researching them enough to properly care for the animal??

Is this just going to be a revolving door of animals?

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My advice would be to research PRIOR to bringing animals home. I think it's unfortunate that you re-homed one animal just to replace it with another.
You cited lack of time and lack of experience for reasons to re-home the snake after only a few months. Now you bring home another animal the same day??

And you just threw it in the same enclosure? Is the enclosure even properly set up? Was it cleaned?

If you didn't have the time or knowledge for one animal, why would you bring another animal home before researching them enough to properly care for the animal??

Is this just going to be a revolving door of animals?

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First of all, I re-homed my snake because she was aggressive and I didn't have the experience needed to help her come out of it. Nor did I have the time, considering that I'm getting ready to start back in my 3rd year of college. It would absolutely NOT have been fair to her for me to keep her with the lack of knowledge and time given the circumstances. Secondly, my girlfriend has done her research. The animal has been hers from the get-go. So when I asked for advice, I wasn't blindly asking for directions. Just tips that some may have. And seeing as we have two other snakes whom we would never dream of getting rid of, I'd say that it's not a revolving door of animals. So, if you're gonna be rude than you can just feel free to not reply.


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I'm not being rude, I'm thinking of the animals. I think less than a few months is too soon to give up on a hatchling considering the species is extremely docile by nature and almost always settles down as it matures.
What happens if you don't like everything about the leopard gecko in the next few months? Will that be re-homed as well?
Was the enclosure cleaned? One concern with the re-homed snake was potential parasites, so I'm hoping the leopard gecko isn't in the same enclosure considering it was brought home the same day.

Also, you asked for advice since you are in your own words "obviously pretty new to these guys".

Constructive criticism is good for everybody. Life can be pretty rough if you can't handle it.

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I'm not being rude, I'm thinking of the animals. I think less than a few months is too soon to give up on a hatchling considering the species is extremely docile by nature and almost always settles down as it matures.
What happens if you don't like everything about the leopard gecko in the next few months? Will that be re-homed as well?
Was the enclosure cleaned? One concern with the re-homed snake was potential parasites, so I'm hoping the leopard gecko isn't in the same enclosure considering it was brought home the same day.

Constructive criticism is good for everybody. Life can be pretty rough if you can't handle it.

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There's a difference between CC and being rude, and you were coming off as pretty rude in my opinion. What happens with the leopard gecko is not my decision, seeing as it belongs to my girlfriend. However, I don't see her getting rid of it because she's already wanting to get more and has wanted a Leo for quite a while now. As for the tank, it has been cleaned.


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Rude would be name calling and putting you down. I asked questions and offered opinions on an open forum where you asked for advice.

I'm off to the beach for a few, just didn't want to walk away from this without closure....

Please understand I'm not judging or trying to be rude. My thoughts are geared towards what is best for the animals, since they don't have a choice. I truly wish you the best and look forward to some updates on your new leo.

Good luck! Have a great day!

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

I'm not being rude, I'm thinking of the animals. I think less than a few months is too soon to give up on a hatchling considering the species is extremely docile by nature and almost always settles down as it matures.
What happens if you don't like everything about the leopard gecko in the next few months? Will that be re-homed as well?
Was the enclosure cleaned? One concern with the re-homed snake was potential parasites, so I'm hoping the leopard gecko isn't in the same enclosure considering it was brought home the same day.

Also, you asked for advice since you are in your own words "obviously pretty new to these guys".

Constructive criticism is good for everybody. Life can be pretty rough if you can't handle it.

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There's a difference between CC and being rude, and you were coming off as pretty rude in my opinion. What happens with the leopard gecko is not my decision, seeing as it belongs to my girlfriend. However, I don't see her getting rid of it because she's already wanting to get more and has wanted a Leo for quite a while now. As for the tank, it has been cleaned.

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OP, despite what you may believe craigfrechette has brought up some very valid points that i feel you need to address outside of the forums. i might not have worded his post the same, but my thoughts were within the same vein as his.

craigfrechette, like myself and others on here, ask the questions some might not want to confront, but we have to as it is our duty to these animals. just recognize that we are ALL here for the animals, yourself included. no one is here to attack or be mean to you, we want what's best for the ANIMALS regardless of your (or any one else's) feelings.

i'm going to keep my opinions on Nagini to myself as they're no longer necessary, however craigfrechette was not being rude; he was being blunt: no sugar-coating, no kid gloves. TBH i had the same questions as he did when i saw this thread. however that's the downside of forums and only knowing a person through text: we only know what you tell us.

keep us posted on the new little one. i love leopard geckos! don't have one myself, but maybe one day...
do your research, read, read, read. it never hurts to learn as much as you can.

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First of all, I re-homed my snake because she was aggressive and I didn't have the experience needed to help her come out of it. Nor did I have the time, considering that I'm getting ready to start back in my 3rd year of college. It would absolutely NOT have been fair to her for me to keep her with the lack of knowledge and time given the circumstances. Secondly, my girlfriend has done her research. The animal has been hers from the get-go. So when I asked for advice, I wasn't blindly asking for directions. Just tips that some may have. And seeing as we have two other snakes whom we would never dream of getting rid of, I'd say that it's not a revolving door of animals. So, if you're gonna be rude than you can just feel free to not reply.


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There's a difference between CC and being rude, and you were coming off as pretty rude in my opinion. What happens with the leopard gecko is not my decision, seeing as it belongs to my girlfriend. However, I don't see her getting rid of it because she's already wanting to get more and has wanted a Leo for quite a while now. As for the tank, it has been cleaned.


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I kept my post short and to the point because I hadn't had my coffee and was walking into work but planned to come back and address issues I had in more depth later but Craig beat me to it. I don't see him being rude and he didn't come off as such in my opinion. You asked for advice and he responded. I feel the same way because I saw the previous thread, pictures and then see a gecko in the same exact tank. Did you clean the moss as well?

Saying "what happens with the leopard gecko is not my decision, seeing as it belongs to my girlfriend" is concerning. As for wanting to get more. This is a juvie, not an adult so what happens if you two get more juvies and then decide they aren't for you when they are full grown adults? People have every right to be concerned as leopard geckos are tossed aside as much as other reptiles when people grow bored of them, don't like having to keep crickets or mealworms and the impression you're giving people is that you rehomed one reptile and dropped another in the previous reptile's tank which is cause for concern. At the end of the day, people are going to be blunt and honest because they care more about the animal's well being than they do of someone's feelings. I can speak from personal experience in doing that as I've rescued a number of reptiles over the years and continue to do such.

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I kept my post short and to the point because I hadn't had my coffee and was walking into work but planned to come back and address issues I had in more depth later but Craig beat me to it. I don't see him being rude and he didn't come off as such in my opinion. You asked for advice and he responded. I feel the same way because I saw the previous thread, pictures and then see a gecko in the same exact tank. Did you clean the moss as well?

Saying "what happens with the leopard gecko is not my decision, seeing as it belongs to my girlfriend" is concerning. As for wanting to get more. This is a juvie, not an adult so what happens if you two get more juvies and then decide they aren't for you when they are full grown adults? People have every right to be concerned as leopard geckos are tossed aside as much as other reptiles when people grow bored of them, don't like having to keep crickets or mealworms and the impression you're giving people is that you rehomed one reptile and dropped another in the previous reptile's tank which is cause for concern. At the end of the day, people are going to be blunt and honest because they care more about the animal's well being than they do of someone's feelings. I can speak from personal experience in doing that as I've rescued a number of reptiles over the years and continue to do such.

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To be quite honest, the tank that the gecko is in is NOT the same one as the snake. I swapped that tank for the one my male bp was in, though both tanks have been cleaned. I swapped it because the tank that the gecko is now in has a mini UTH, and the other did not. Either way, we do our research before we jump into getting animals. Getting rid of my snake was something that I did because I thought it was in her best interest. Did I want to re-home her? No. I only did so in order to provide her with a better environment, with someone who knows more about handling and taming snakes than I do. So if everyone would just hop off my case about the snake, it would be appreciative. I thought that I was doing the right thing and quite frankly, that's all that matters to me. I wanted her to have a good home and I didn't just re-home her to the first person who was interested.


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Saying "what happens with the leopard gecko is not my decision, seeing as it belongs to my girlfriend" is concerning.

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Seconding this. Op that statement comes across as very dismissing. Considering how quickly the two of you got your leopard gecko shortly after rehoming your snake, a lot of us were starting to get worried and are just trying to get some details clarified. I don't think anyone here is judging you.

So first off, its my leopard gecko. And I have done weeks of research prior to even getting my first ball python. A Leo was going to be my first choice of reptile but I ended up rescuing a starved ball python. That in mind, I know how to take care of him. He has everything he needs and it wasn't just some half assed decision. Furthermore, the choice of getting rid of Nagini was something we and others have pondered for a while. My girlfriend had gotten advice and help from many different owners and of breeders. Nothing was helping with her. Since you educated folks weren't around to take witness to her attitude and all around characteristics/health then it's not really for you to speak up on the "just got rid of her for another" And there is a difference from constructive criticism and being a mean. We have two very healthy bps that are spoiled rotten. She was scared of everyone and everything, and we tried everything people could think of to help her. So, she went to a very experienced owner that will keep us updated on her progress and we'll being. So don't make a post about MY new leopard gecko a reason to argue pointless nonsense about reptiles you don't really care about in the first place.


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Whoa there, cool your jets. We just think it's a bit odd to get a new reptile on the SAME day that you got rid of a different one. Everyone is just concerned about your pets, no one is trying to personally attack you.

Ball pythons are generally very docile so I really think that if you would have given it more time, she would have calmed down.

Also we were concerned because we don't want your gecko to potentially get the same virus that Nagini did so we had to confirm that it was either a cleaned cage or a different cage.

Believe or not, the people here are just trying to help.

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So don't make a post about MY new leopard gecko a reason to argue pointless nonsense about reptiles you don't really care about in the first place.

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we didn't make a post, your SO did.

if we didn't care, all of your posts combined would have 0 replies. :rolleyes:

check your attitude at the door; that's not how you make friends. :colbert:

whether you believe the constructive criticism provided to you was rude does not negate the fact it was constructive criticism. accept that, learn from the things that were pointed out to you, and move on.

good luck. :gj:

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So first off, its my leopard gecko. And I have done weeks of research prior to even getting my first ball python. A Leo was going to be my first choice of reptile but I ended up rescuing a starved ball python. That in mind, I know how to take care of him. He has everything he needs and it wasn't just some half assed decision. Furthermore, the choice of getting rid of Nagini was something we and others have pondered for a while. My girlfriend had gotten advice and help from many different owners and of breeders. Nothing was helping with her. Since you educated folks weren't around to take witness to her attitude and all around characteristics/health then it's not really for you to speak up on the "just got rid of her for another" And there is a difference from constructive criticism and being a mean. We have two very healthy bps that are spoiled rotten. She was scared of everyone and everything, and we tried everything people could think of to help her. So, she went to a very experienced owner that will keep us updated on her progress and we'll being. So don't make a post about MY new leopard gecko a reason to argue pointless nonsense about reptiles you don't really care about in the first place.

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I think we can all appreciate the intent of you flying to LivingDeadGirl's defense, but the aggression isn't doing you or OP any favors.

It seems both you and OP have a very different idea what is considered constructive criticism and what's rude, and frankly, it seems any criticism or voiced concern is being taken as a personal attack. Everyone was responding based on the context that was being provided, which is why many of us were asking for more details to get clarification.

Honest constructive criticism wouldn't be viewed as an attack. Reread through some of the wording of the posts made to my girlfriend and see why I have an "attitude". If actual questions were being asked there would be an actual difference from opinionated statements that only judge the choices instead of actually understand the necessity or need behind such.


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Actually we know, very well in fact, what constructive criticism is. Maybe some of you guys should take a step back and consider rewording some of the things you said that may have come across as being rude.


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If actual questions were being asked there would be an actual difference from opinionated statements that only judge the choices instead of actually understand the necessity or need behind such.

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Now you bring home another animal the same day??

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And you just threw it in the same enclosure?

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Is the enclosure even properly set up?

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Was it cleaned?

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why would you bring another animal home before researching them enough to properly care for the animal??

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Is this just going to be a revolving door of animals?

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What happens if you don't like everything about the leopard gecko in the next few months?

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Will that be re-homed as well?

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you mean these questions asked from someone concerned for the animal? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You do realize half of those aren't actual questions. Just because you put a question mark at the end doesn't make it a question.


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And before you say anything about them being questions, it was clearly sarcasm in 60% of those.


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And before you say anything about them being questions, it was clearly sarcasm in 60% of those.


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him and i have interacted on this forum longer than you or your SO have been members. i think i know his intentions more than you do, hence why we all know he was giving his contructive criticism and asking questions. he's a great dude! and he's on vacation right now so he's not here to say all this. trust me, i know him better than you.

Harsh language is not appreciated. You want to talk being rude? THAT'S rude. Check the language at the door. It's completely uncalled for, and you've lost a load of respect for it.

Everyone on this forum is telling you it was constructive criticism. Craig is one of the nicest guys on here. He was asking lots of questions. You took it the wrong way which is VERY easy to do on a forum/via text/via email, etc. He clarified and apologized. Others have attempted to clarify. You continue to defend your position. Maybe it's time to walk away from the keyboard for awhile and actually think before you type anything else.

The concerns we have are legitimate. Stick around the forum for a few years and see how many people come and go and change animals every few weeks, and then tell me you wouldn't react with the same concerns.

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Harsh language is not appreciated. You want to talk being rude? THAT'S rude. Check the language at the door. It's completely uncalled for, and you've lost a load of respect for it.

Everyone on this forum is telling you it was constructive criticism. Craig is one of the nicest guys on here. He was asking lots of questions. You took it the wrong way which is VERY easy to do on a forum/via text/via email, etc. He clarified and apologized. Others have attempted to clarify. You continue to defend your position. Maybe it's time to walk away from the keyboard for awhile and actually think before you type anything else.

The concerns we have are legitimate. Stick around the forum for a few years and see how many people come and go and change animals every few weeks, and then tell me you wouldn't react with the same concerns.

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couldn't have said this better myself. :gj:

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Honest constructive criticism wouldn't be viewed as an attack. Reread through some of the wording of the posts made to my girlfriend and see why I have an "attitude". If actual questions were being asked there would be an actual difference from opinionated statements that only judge the choices instead of actually understand the necessity or need behind such.


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Actually we know, very well in fact, what constructive criticism is. Maybe some of you guys should take a step back and consider rewording some of the things you said that may have come across as being rude.


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Actually I disagree with that, because a lot of what is viewed as "honest constructive criticism" is dependent on how the person chooses to perceive it. Everyone assigns a "tone" to what's being read on the internet, be it consciously or subconsciously. If you or OP are already on the defensive, then it's understandable why you are seeing what everyone is saying as rude while others do not.

I get the impression the two of you are pretty closed off to seeing the interactions in this thread as a potential misunderstanding or a recognized difference of perspective. You're free to think that, but it may be worth considering that maybe some of the people you think are "rude" actually don't have the malicious intend you're trying to assign them. Life is a little less stressful that way :)

Well, I was not going to post today, but I am going to now. Why are people being so direct with the OP? Because the OP needs to hear direct. I was nice with my suggestions yesterday, today I am not feeling that nice.

I suggested yesterday that the snake needed to go to the vet. It obviously didn't because the fecal test wouldn't have come back yet. It is highly likely that the OP's snake was sick. It was not acting very much like a ball python and not gaining weight. Instead of fixing the problem the animal was pawned off on someone else. I work around 70hrs a week, I have a large family to provide for, practice a full martial arts schedule, a home to take care of, and at this time around 100 pythons to take care of. Somehow I have the time...

In my opinion the OP just wants things to be easy and neglected responsibilities for the animal she already had. To dump one and just bring another home into an environment that is very possibly infected is just irresponsible. Maybe I should take back child number three, because the dentist bills are too high. Maybe I should take back child number four because she is difficult? I'm sure this sounds ridiculous to most rational people.

The OP needs more pets like I need another hole in the head.

The only problem with that is I know what constructive criticism really is become I'm an art major, I've sat through plenty of that and took it like a breeze. And I really could careless if you lot don't like the language, I'm not going to change how I interact because you guys find it oh so offensive.


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Man, it's killing me. I never realized everyone in the form was a vet. Speechless. Congrats.


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To be quite honest, the tank that the gecko is in is NOT the same one as the snake. I swapped that tank for the one my male bp was in, though both tanks have been cleaned. I swapped it because the tank that the gecko is now in has a mini UTH, and the other did not. Either way, we do our research before we jump into getting animals. Getting rid of my snake was something that I did because I thought it was in her best interest. Did I want to re-home her? No. I only did so in order to provide her with a better environment, with someone who knows more about handling and taming snakes than I do. So if everyone would just hop off my case about the snake, it would be appreciative. I thought that I was doing the right thing and quite frankly, that's all that matters to me. I wanted her to have a good home and I didn't just re-home her to the first person who was interested.


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What's done is done with the BP. I am solely referencing the new leopard gecko as is clear in my post that you quoted. I can respect that you did what you think is best for the animal. My concern as others have repeatedly stated is that it appears that you went out and picked out a leopard gecko as a consolation prize of sorts. You are thinking about getting more when you've had this new addition for less than 48 hours. These are the things that people see all the time with all types of reptiles, myself included.

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So first off, its my leopard gecko. And I have done weeks of research prior to even getting my first ball python. A Leo was going to be my first choice of reptile but I ended up rescuing a starved ball python. That in mind, I know how to take care of him. He has everything he needs and it wasn't just some half assed decision.

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I'm just going to go ahead and get this out of the way now because I don't care if I hurt your feelings. What I care about are the animals, not whether you like my comments or if I hurt your feelings by being honest and direct. If you want respect, you respect others. Coming out of the gate, flailing around and posting the way you are does absolutely nothing to help your case, make us think better of you or solve a single thing.

Your girlfriend asked for tips and advice. People responded accordingly with tips and advice. Neither of you like said advice so you both go on the defense. What's done is done with the BP. I wasn't around for that discussion and have no interest in it. My interest is in the leopard gecko and based on your girlfriend's post along with the picture, raised a number of concerns that were brought up in a polite manner, unlike your posts. I see a picture of what looks like an identical set up if not the same set up as the BP's. A polite response was all that was needed. Nobody is attacking you or your girlfriend so this talk isn't needed.

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So first off, its my leopard gecko. And I have done weeks of research prior to even getting my first ball python. A Leo was going to be my first choice of reptile but I ended up rescuing a starved ball python. That in mind, I know how to take care of him. He has everything he needs and it wasn't just some half assed decision. Furthermore, the choice of getting rid of Nagini was something we and others have pondered for a while. My girlfriend had gotten advice and help from many different owners and of breeders. Nothing was helping with her. Since you educated folks weren't around to take witness to her attitude and all around characteristics/health then it's not really for you to speak up on the "just got rid of her for another" And there is a difference from constructive criticism and being a mean. We have two very healthy bps that are spoiled rotten. She was scared of everyone and everything, and we tried everything people could think of to help her. So, she went to a very experienced owner that will keep us updated on her progress and we'll being. So don't make a post about MY new leopard gecko a reason to argue pointless nonsense about reptiles you don't really care about in the first place.

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This is rude. This gets you nowhere, gives a terrible 1st impression to the other members on this forum and you making assumptions is not needed and also inaccurate. As it was mentioned, you would have no views and no replies if people didn't care about your animal. You could have posted in a more polite fashion. I give a lot of flying <blanks> about reptiles that are mine and aren't mine, hence why I work with rescues. People raised concerns over the leopard gecko and your girlfriend said you were both new to leopard geckos so naturally, educated and experienced owners are going to be concerned given the nature of the post.

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Actually we know, very well in fact, what constructive criticism is. Maybe some of you guys should take a step back and consider rewording some of the things you said that may have come across as being rude.


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The only people that need to reword their posts are you and your girlfriend. We offered advice, constructive criticism and voiced our concerns for the leopard gecko. We didn't voice our concerns just to get a rise out of you. You both handled these replies in a poor and immature fashion which raises even more concerns about how you act towards people in person who offer advice.

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Originally Posted by brandi.caruso

Honest constructive criticism wouldn't be viewed as an attack. Reread through some of the wording of the posts made to my girlfriend and see why I have an "attitude". If actual questions were being asked there would be an actual difference from opinionated statements that only judge the choices instead of actually understand the necessity or need behind such.

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Yeah.....I pretty much covered all of that above.

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The only problem with that is I know what constructive criticism really is become I'm an art major, I've sat through plenty of that and took it like a breeze. And I really could careless if you lot don't like the language, I'm not going to change how I interact because you guys find it oh so offensive.


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I don't care how people talk, as long as I get the information I need so you can address me any way you so choose unless you violate the TOS which some admins may take issue with. You are not helping your partner nor your animals by arguing with people on here since they are right and only trying to help. All you are going to accomplish is to aggravate the people that can actually help you with problems. It is hard to tell tone on a board.

To be clear my tone should come across as irritated. I took time out of my day to help your partner yesterday and I was ignored. Then I have my board friends getting slammed by the dynamic duo who are making mistakes but don't want to hear about it.

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Well, I was not going to post today, but I am going to now. Why are people being so direct with the OP? Because the OP needs to hear direct. I was nice with my suggestions yesterday, today I am not feeling that nice.

I suggested yesterday that the snake needed to go to the vet. It obviously didn't because the fecal test wouldn't have come back yet. It is highly likely that the OP's snake was sick. It was not acting very much like a ball python and not gaining weight. Instead of fixing the problem the animal was pawned off on someone else. I work around 70hrs a week, I have a large family to provide for, practice a full martial arts schedule, a home to take care of, and at this time around 100 pythons to take care of. Somehow I have the time...

In my opinion the OP just wants things to be easy and neglected responsibilities for the animal she already had. To dump one and just bring another home into an environment that is very possibly infected is just irresponsible. Maybe I should take back child number three, because the dentist bills are too high. Maybe I should take back child number four because she is difficult? I'm sure this sounds ridiculous to most rational people.

The OP needs more pets like I need another hole in the head.

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Nice or not, I took your suggestion yesterday. And like I stated then, I passed that info on to the person who now has her. So don't get nasty with me because you think that you know me. You clearly don't. I know what the responsibilities of having a pet, whether it be a reptile or a dog, entail. I did my research. So before you go opening your mouth and judging my responsibilities as a pet owner, maybe you should get to know me and my position. I'm very open to constructive criticism, but I don't tolerate being being told what to do and trying to get away with it. You don't know me. You don't know my background. And you don't know what kind of life my pets are living. I am the last person that would neglect their animals. I sat and watched that happen too many times in a town where I could do nothing. So maybe you should back off.


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The only problem with that is I know what constructive criticism really is become I'm an art major, I've sat through plenty of that and took it like a breeze. And I really could careless if you lot don't like the language, I'm not going to change how I interact because you guys find it oh so offensive.

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If you don't want to listen, why are you still here? At this point, you're only baiting people.

I would recommend everyone drop this thread like a hot rock and walk away. Clearly no one is going to get through at this point.

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Nice or not, I took your suggestion yesterday. And like I stated then, I passed that info on to the person who now has her. So don't get nasty with me because you think that you know me. You clearly don't. I know what the responsibilities of having a pet, whether it be a reptile or a dog, entail. I did my research. So before you go opening your mouth and judging my responsibilities as a pet owner, maybe you should get to know me and my position. I'm very open to constructive criticism, but I don't tolerate being being told what to do and trying to get away with it. You don't know me. You don't know my background. And you don't know what kind of life my pets are living. I am the last person that would neglect their animals. I sat and watched that happen too many times in a town where I could do nothing. So maybe you should back off.

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Nope. Not going to back off. "Free" advice has a price. Like you alluded to, you do not know who you are actually talking to, only maybe what someone puts in their profile. I'll give you a little hint, I've been at this in some shape way or form for 40 years. You, young lady, are making mistakes, shirking responsibility, and talking like a sailor. If you are smart, after you cool off, you are going to realize we are right.

So, since some of you clearly can't read or just don't want to understand, the leopard gecko is NOT IN THE SAME TANK. It is in a DIFFERENT tank. Not the same setup either. Clear enough for ya? The snake wasn't on reptile carpet, which is what the gecko is on. The snake didn't use hides made out of small planters, like the gecko has. The only thing that is the same from the snakes tank is the water bowl, which we washed.


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If you don't want to listen, why are you still here? At this point, you're only baiting people.

I would recommend everyone drop this thread like a hot rock and walk away. Clearly no one is going to get through at this point.

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Nah, they still could be helped after they get done being angry. Just don't lose your cool.

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Nah, they still could be helped after they get done being angry. Just don't lose your cool.

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You're correct... just thinking we could give them some time to calm down. The smart ones always come back after they stop taking things so personally.

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So, since some of you clearly can't read or just don't want to understand, the leopard gecko is NOT IN THE SAME TANK. It is in a DIFFERENT tank. Not the same setup either. Clear enough for ya? The snake wasn't on reptile carpet, which is what the gecko is on. The snake didn't use hides made out of small planters, like the gecko has. The only thing that is the same from the snakes tank is the water bowl, which we washed.


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I am actually concerned about cross contamination between the snake that left and the ones remaining. This is why it was so important to get the fecal done. I hope the new animal is in quarantine.

We wouldn't be taking things so personally if people would quit aiming them at us in such a way. It's pretty simple really.


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So the thread has been cleaned up now, courtesy of your Maiderator http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...tiles/Maid.gif

Since I believe that this thread has ran it's course and doubt anything positive will come out of any future posting, this thread will remain locked.

Enjoy the rest of your day.