Here we go again....

So three new BP at work. All born first of january. ALL again under weight. 58g for these boys. Going on week three of not eating. I went down a size today, put used stinky mice bedding for the smell and also to shake and bake the mice for extra umph. I know their husbandry is off (humidity) temp is ok. They just seem scared to eat. They have not lost 10% body weight so I can't take them to a vet. Any other ideas? I can't feed them in their enclosure either. I'm at my wits end and worried sick.

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Is this at a pet store? Maybe post pics of their setup and if they have hides?

They have hides, water and a plant. And wood chips...which I hate. I can't mist every hour since the wood molds if I do and I can't change it since the woods chips are required.

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I'm the snake girl in the store and I feel like I'm an idiot. I have my own snake who is awesome and doing fantastic.

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I assume you have to use F/T mice too?


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Yes. I have to do a gazillion other steps before live feeding

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We use F/T because live rats are illegal where I live. Take a rat and put it in tge mouse bag (or vice versa) in the freezer for a week. And it can't be helped in a pet store I imagine but some if our snakes only eat in the dark. So we use a red light to see in the start...now we leave it and its gone in the morning.

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

I'm the snake girl in the store and I feel like I'm an idiot. I have my own snake who is awesome and doing fantastic.

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Since your snake is doing well proves you know what your doing and what is right. You'll just have to do the best you can. You are having to move them to a feed box. Are you feeding one at a time? Are you heating the feeders up to around 90 or more? Grab the feeders by the back or shoulder area with tweezers and hold it still in front of the snake. Try holding it steady at first and don't touch the snake, see if the snake gets interested. Maybe you could put some paper towel or paper over the top of the snake and let it feel like it is kind of hiding and put the mouse near the place the snake could come out from under.

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We use F/T because live rats are illegal where I live. Take a rat and put it in tge mouse bag (or vice versa) in the freezer for a week. And it can't be helped in a pet store I imagine but some if our snakes only eat in the dark. So we use a red light to see in the start...now we leave it and its gone in the morning.

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I can't leave it overnight since we feed out of the habitat. They are in a feed box that closes. I put them in them box into a tank with a red heat lamp and them sprinkle used m ou se bedding on them screen top. One did eat today. Attempted assist feed on the other two. One might have took the other said no damn way lol.

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Its only been 3 weeks? I wouldn't assist feed yet I don't think. Unless they are severely underweight. What are you warming the rats top?

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They are at hatchling weight. 58g. They are underweight. And one came in with a messed up eye. I was pissed.

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Its only been 3 weeks? I wouldn't assist feed yet I don't think. Unless they are severely underweight. What are you warming the rats top?

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Not rats. I was on hoppers and it scared them so I went down to fuzzed this round. I want them eating and I will move back up qiickly.

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Update: boopit #2 has eaten 2 weeks in a row and also took 2 fuzzies. Next week hoppers and feeding 2x a week. The other two still not eating. One is under vet care.

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Update: boopit #2 has eaten 2 weeks in a row and also took 2 fuzzies. Next week hoppers and feeding 2x a week. The other two still not eating. One is under vet care.

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keep up the good work! you're literally doing everything you can within very strict rules, and for boopit #2 it's paying off! i hope your employers recognize your dedication.

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Update: boopit #2 has eaten 2 weeks in a row and also took 2 fuzzies. Next week hoppers and feeding 2x a week. The other two still not eating. One is under vet care.

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keep up the good work! you're literally doing everything you can within very strict rules, and for boopit #2 it's paying off! i hope your employers recognize your dedication.

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No doubt, good on you for doing the best you can. I honestly don't know how you do it. I couldn't work for a company that doesn't believe in housing their animals properly, underfeeds their animals and basically looks at living, breathing animals as dollar signs. I have both of the "major" big box stores within a few miles of me and I honestly hate going in to one of them. The reptiles, especially, are just in horrible shape in horrible conditions. It breaks my heart. I've spoken with a few employees, tried to help out a bit and they will basically listen until I shut up, but nothing ever changes. I've shown them care sheets and various things on my phone and they just don't care.
The other one at least tries based on what corporate allows, but I still can't stand seeing animals kept the way they are.

With the vast amount of knowledge at your fingertips that we as a society have available, there really is no excuse.

But anyway, good on you :gj:

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No doubt, good on you for doing the best you can. I honestly don't know how you do it. I couldn't work for a company that doesn't believe in housing their animals properly, underfeeds their animals and basically looks at living, breathing animals as dollar signs. I have both of the "major" big box stores within a few miles of me and I honestly hate going in to one of them. The reptiles, especially, are just in horrible shape in horrible conditions. It breaks my heart. I've spoken with a few employees, tried to help out a bit and they will basically listen until I shut up, but nothing ever changes. I've shown them care sheets and various things on my phone and they just don't care.
The other one at least tries based on what corporate allows, but I still can't stand seeing animals kept the way they are.

With the vast amount of knowledge at your fingertips that we as a society have available, there really is no excuse.

But anyway, good on you :gj:

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i have researched for months while at home to educate myself and others. I go into other box stores and am also appalled. I'm like wtf! We do sell a lot of animals but I educate them in the process. I have also told people no, they are not taking an animal home. One being a person who rhymes with knaclemore lol. My store is one of the cleanest I have seen in terms of animals. I have gotten myself in trouble more than once because the animals needed care. I put my foot down and if needed throw a tantrum. Lol I never underfeed them. That was #1 that changed when I took over, proper size food. And when I get adult ft mice they will go up again. I only go down if they come in underweight or stressed out at the larger size. Once feeding is established back up they go. I wrote a book sorry. Oh and I do it because someone else won't. And I love educating people properly.

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keep up the good work! you're literally doing everything you can within very strict rules, and for boopit #2 it's paying off! i hope your employers recognize your dedication.

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rules are fine but when I follow them and I'm told no....ya my boss doesn't like me when it comes to snakes. I'm like nope! My coworkers know that when it comes to snakes and the reptiles they come to me. Always! If some thing is wrong they text me. And they won't sell unless they talk to me. I didn't ask them to do this.

So update....the one with the eye cap finally ate today. I had to go down to a pinky. He wouldn't take fuzzys two days ago. I had to take used mouse bedding, put the frozen into the bedding and then throw it in hot water to defrost and warm. Took me a half hour of teasing the little man and warming the mouse again three times. He finally took and coiled it. We froze, turned off the light andvslowly backed out of the room. So...hopefully he will eat another on Tuesday. I also have to mist every hour to keep humidity up. I was adamant and would not back down.

The he other still is not eating. Both are under vet care.

I Will be be bringing little man home when I get it set up here. They won't charge me for him.