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Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
hi everyone. i know i've acquired two snakes very recently in a short amount of time, but of course i'm looking around for my next one. i absolutely LOVE the mojave gene, and mojave pastels are gorgeous.
i was wondering what are some WOW mojave combos you guys have seen. i like GHI/Mojave for the dark colors and dorsal pattern, but i love the mojave side pattern and snakes with STARK contrasting.
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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/ghi-mojave/
i'm not the best with morph knowledge so i was hoping for some help, opinions or pictures. anything is appreciated! thanks, all!
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Well, I'm going to say purple passion, but the one below courtesy of WOB. Is my end game for my highway project.
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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...stave-highway/
Highway Pastave
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THAT IS ONE HECKIN' BEAUTIFUL SNAKE! wowowowowow.
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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
THAT IS ONE HECKIN' BEAUTIFUL SNAKE! wowowowowow.
Yeah, when I saw that my eyes about popped out of my head. That is my idea of a Gotta Have.
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
Mojave is one of those genes that does amazing things with a lot of different morphs. I think the only combos I've seen that I don't like are those with OD...
Anyway, I like thinking a little outside of my comfort zone when it comes to Mojave. Blackhead, hidden gene woma and black pastel all make great combos with Mojave.
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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...k-head-mojave/
Blackhead Mojave
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-yellow-belly/
HGW Mojave YB
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...mojave-pastel/
HGW mojave pastel
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...pastel-mojave/
Black pastel Mojave
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Originally Posted by kxr
Mojave is one of those genes that does amazing things with a lot of different morphs. I think the only combos I've seen that I don't like are those with OD...
Anyway, I like thinking a little outside of my comfort zone when it comes to Mojave. Blackhead, hidden gene woma and black pastel all make great combos with Mojave.
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wow those are all beautiful, i especially like the first three! the red/orange on that HGW Mojave Pastel is incredible. thank you for your input!!!
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found this guy on MorphMarket, not a lot of contrast but i really like the colors.
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http://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rept...-pythons/62725
Granite HGW Mojave Pastel Yellow Belly
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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Originally Posted by kxr
Mojave is one of those genes that does amazing things with a lot of different morphs. I think the only combos I've seen that I don't like are those with OD...
Anyway, I like thinking a little outside of my comfort zone when it comes to Mojave. Blackhead, hidden gene woma and black pastel all make great combos with Mojave.
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I'm really liking the first two
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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found this guy on MorphMarket, not a lot of contrast but i really like the colors.
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I have a feeling this one would colour up rather nicely ;)
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
found this guy on MorphMarket, not a lot of contrast but i really like the colors.
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Granite HGW Mojave Pastel Yellow Belly
This one is interesting. I normally don't care for the lack of contrast, but it works for this animal. I really like the head for some reason.
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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Originally Posted by kxr
I have a feeling this one would colour up rather nicely ;)
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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan
This one is interesting. I normally don't care for the lack of contrast, but it works for this animal. I really like the head for some reason.
ugh i just want to pull the trigger on another snake so badly. u guys got a spare couple hundred bucks?
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ugh i just want to pull the trigger on another snake so badly. u guys got a spare couple hundred bucks?
Lol I wish... I'm still saving my pennies to pick up some recessive stuff...
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Lol I wish... I'm still saving my pennies to pick up some recessive stuff...
oh la la! i'm always drawn to recessive stuff.
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oh la la! i'm always drawn to recessive stuff.
I really need some clown in my life lol
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I really need some clown in my life lol
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SAME! i was so close to buying a clown morph at NARBC; it was my first time seeing one with my own eyes.
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i love Mojo's! lol it's my first runner up morph (to Albino's). i like how they present two sides of contrast - u can breed them to get something light (like a BEL) or u can go dark (like a GHI Mojave).
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I really need some clown in my life lol
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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
SAME! i was so close to buying a clown morph at NARBC; it was my first time seeing one with my own eyes.
then u two should get Mojo Clowns. or Mojown's as i call 'em.
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Originally Posted by Ax01
i love Mojo's! lol it's my first runner up morph (to Albino's). i like how they present two sides of contrast - u can breed them to get something light (like a BEL) or u can go dark (like a GHI Mojave).
then u two should get Mojo Clowns. or Mojown's as i call 'em.
Honestly, I forgot about Mojave clowns when I mentioned orange dream earlier... there's something about the head that I don't like...
One of the next morphs I plan to pick up, perhaps next year, is phantom. I really love the dark Mojave combos and I feel like replacing Mojave with a really dark line of phantom will make them even better!
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then u two should get Mojo Clowns. or Mojown's as i call 'em.
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Originally Posted by kxr
Honestly, I forgot about Mojave clowns when I mentioned orange dream earlier... there's something about the head that I don't like...
they look like a bald baby.
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Originally Posted by kxr
One of the next morphs I plan to pick up, perhaps next year, is phantom. I really love the dark Mojave combos and I feel like replacing Mojave with a really dark line of phantom will make them even better!
that would make sense. Phantoms and Mystics won't have the green tint alotta Mojo's have.
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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Originally Posted by kxr
Honestly, I forgot about Mojave clowns when I mentioned orange dream earlier... there's something about the head that I don't like...
One of the next morphs I plan to pick up, perhaps next year, is phantom. I really love the dark Mojave combos and I feel like replacing Mojave with a really dark line of phantom will make them even better!
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I'm really liking my phantoms. Oddly enough it really kicks up the yellow in combos.
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I'm really liking my phantoms. Oddly enough it really kicks up the yellow in combos.
just did some phantom photo surfing, their natural contrast is beautiful. now i gotta research phantom combos...
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I'm really liking my phantoms. Oddly enough it really kicks up the yellow in combos.
Yep! I'm going to stick mostly to the darker stuff but I definitely plan to work phantom into my bright spider stuff. Phantom spiders are really nice! Plus they pretty much remove the white sides which is nice.
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i think the most amazing Mojave combo is Dave Green's Monsoon Mojave. i think it's one of the biggest things in BP's as much as the Scaleless and Sunset. it just looks so different.
pix - https://www.facebook.com/davegreenre...type=3&theater
and it's breeding! - https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...Monsoon-season
can't wait to have my own one day. :)
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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No doubt! I think that monsoon is having a much greater effect on it than Mojave though... I guess we'll have to wait to see what the single gene looks like... It hasn't been produced yet has it?
The more sunset combos I see the less I like them tbh... They all look a little too similar for my liking. I'm hoping sunset clowns might change my mind but right now for me monsoon > sunset & scaleless
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WOW what a beautiful morph!!!
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Originally Posted by asplundii
that PP enchi pin 😍😍😍 i really do like purple passions
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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I breed these combos also. I'm thinking the middle one is the 3P + enchi. the bottom is the 3p. I'm curious as to why you think otherwise?
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I breed these combos also. I'm thinking the middle one is the 3P + enchi. the bottom is the 3p. I'm curious as to why you think otherwise?
have i been bamboozled!?!?! lol :P
jodan, if you have a spare PPP laying around i can take it off your hands.
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have i been bamboozled!?!?! lol :P
jodan, if you have a spare PPP laying around i can take it off your hands.
I am a little selfish. The ones I produced last season I kept as holdbacks. The sire has repeatedly proven to have the best Phantom genes that I have personally seen. As a bonus all his offspring are large for ball pythons. I kept most of his girls from last season. At around 8 months they are already well over 1000 grams. They are going to be ready to go next season and I will be able to consistently produce PP's, PPP's, and PP Enchi combos. This season's focus was on producing Super Enchi Phantoms, Super Enchi Phantom Pins, and a lot of BEL stuff. I am also going to have more Super Mojaves than I know what to do with I think. The good news is my Phantom het lavender that I thought reabsorbed is ovulating as we speak (I am very glad to have been wrong). Puts me within a year of producing a Phantom/Lavender version of a Cherry Bomb if I get a boy. (Look out Ax, I'm catching up LOL). I love all the BEL combos. Especially the Purple Passions.
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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I breed these combos also. I'm thinking the middle one is the 3P + enchi. the bottom is the 3p. I'm curious as to why you think otherwise?
My logic was that Enchi enhances the expression of yellow in the BluELs and has a tendency to pull the side pattern away from the dorsal stripe.
It is possible I am incorrect, no one had made PPEP before last season so I had nothing to compare to. But I really hope I am not wrong because I sold what I had labeled as the PPP :O
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My logic was that Enchi enhances the expression of yellow in the BluELs and has a tendency to pull the side pattern away from the dorsal stripe.
It is possible I am incorrect, no one had made PPEP before last season so I had nothing to compare to. But I really hope I am not wrong because I sold what I had labeled as the PPP :O
I think I may have thought that too in your situation if I had not already produced one without the enchi. I wish I had a better picture of this guy right now, but he is definitely PPP. There was no enchi involved in his breeding. The picture does not show the yellow dorsal very well, but it has gotten even more yellow as he has aged. Who knows? You may be right, but even the pattern seems right. It is so flipping hard to tell when the genes start adding up.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...img_0946_s.jpg
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I'm on my phone or I'd post a picture but Leopard Mojave for the win!!
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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Originally Posted by StillBP
I'm on my phone or I'd post a picture but Leopard Mojave for the win!!
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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...eopard-mojave/
wow, beautiful colors! that contrast tho
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Re: Mojave/Pastel or other Mojave combos
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Originally Posted by StillBP
I'm on my phone or I'd post a picture but Leopard Mojave for the win!!
I'll agree that its a nice animal but not even in the same class as a pastave highway.
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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan
I'll agree that its a nice animal but not even in the same class as a pastave highway.
Maybe stillbp disagrees or maybe they posted this simply because leopard Mojave hasn't been mentioned...
You're also comparing a two gene animal to a four gene animal. There are some awesome combos that have been made with Mojave leopard (just a few three and one four gene animal from WOB)
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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...jave-spotnose/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/leopard-mochi/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...eopard-mojave/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...mojave-pastel/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ojave-special/
Sure none of them will ever produce a super gravel but they all look awesome and will likely age better then the pastave highway.
P.S. Sorry if I took your message out of context but I felt the need to be slightly defensive here..........
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Originally Posted by kxr
Maybe stillbp disagrees or maybe they posted this simply because leopard Mojave hasn't been mentioned...
You're also comparing a two gene animal to a four gene animal. There are some awesome combos that have been made with Mojave leopard (just a few three and one four gene animal from WOB)
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Sure none of them will ever produce a super gravel but they all look awesome and will likely age better then the pastave highway.
P.S. Sorry if I took your message out of context but I felt the need to be slightly defensive here..........
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LOL. I am very rarely serious on here unless it is a black and white issue. I am of course playing around. Everyone has their own preferences. I do think think the pastave highway is the prettier animal and the degree of difficulty is very high. There is no pleasing everyone. I don't like hypos or pieds. Most people do so that makes me the odd one. BEL complex is my thing though so I obviously have better taste than everyone else. ROFL
Honestly, I like these threads and listening to people's opinions. Some of the stuff I make is for me, some for other people. So, even if I personally don't like the flavor, I learn what people like and try to make it to taste.
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LOL. I am very rarely serious on here unless it is a black and white issue. I am of course playing around. Everyone has their own preferences. I do think think the pastave highway is the prettier animal and the degree of difficulty is very high. There is no pleasing everyone. I don't like hypos or pieds. Most people do so that makes me the odd one. BEL complex is my thing though so I obviously have better taste than everyone else. ROFL
Honestly, I like these threads and listening to people's opinions. Some of the stuff I make is for me, some for other people. So, even if I personally don't like the flavor, I learn what people like and try to make it to taste.
Haha looks like I did misinterpret [emoji43]
What do you mean the degree of difficulty is high? Like 4 genes vs 2 or maybe because gravels are harder to produce? More expensive?
I do like hypos but I think it's a pretty common thing to dislike them. Pieds on the other hand... It seems like everyone likes them but I feel the same way as you. The only pied combos I really like are super enchi's because they have little to no white. I also love BEL complex animals but I largely prefer them in heterozygous form as opposed to homozygous.
It's interesting that you say you try to appeal to what the market wants. I thought that was highly frowned upon lol It doesn't bother me hearing you say that but I do find the honesty surprising... I don't think I'll ever have enough space to satisfy my tastes let alone the tastes of others so I'm sticking to my own for now... Hopefully there will be a demand for what I produce but if not it's not the end of the world.
But anyway back on topic...
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-potion/
That one's a black potion (mahogany Mojave)
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Haha looks like I did misinterpret [emoji43]
It's interesting that you say you try to appeal to what the market wants. I thought that was highly frowned upon lol It doesn't bother me hearing you say that but I do find the honesty surprising... I don't think I'll ever have enough space to satisfy my tastes let alone the tastes of others so I'm sticking to my own for now... Hopefully there will be a demand for what I produce but if not it's not the end of the world.
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Maybe think of it as being a chef. Odds are there is stuff you make that you don't like, but your customers do. My enjoyment comes from caring for the animals and producing things that make people smile. Kind of like watching kids on x-mas morning opening up some toy that they really like but you cannot figure out why. I have some butt ugly animals in my collection. They get the same treatment as all the other ones. Most of them were animals my daughters wanted. For some reason they think they are beautiful.
As far as leopard combos go.... Deborah has some of the best I have ever seen.
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be careful, I thought we aren't supposed to post photos from other sites, only list the link?
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be careful, I thought we aren't supposed to post photos from other sites, only list the link?
If that is the case I appreciate you saying this... I wasn't aware that was a rule
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While I am cleaning up this thread to conform to our TOS here is a reminder
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Please post links to the image you wish to share and that do not belong to you.
Thanks you
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I'll know for next time... Sorry for making you do so much extra work. I know I posted a lot of pictures [emoji37]
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Maybe stillbp disagrees or maybe they posted this simply because leopard Mojave hasn't been mentioned...
You're also comparing a two gene animal to a four gene animal. There are some awesome combos that have been made with Mojave leopard
I don't disagree. The highway mojo is super. However first correct the mojo leo was not mentioned. Second you can find a super nice mojo leo around $300 so your average hobbiest can afford it. The highway mojo is several thousand dollars and not likely to be bought by a average hobbiest.
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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan
I think I may have thought that too in your situation if I had not already produced one without the enchi. I wish I had a better picture of this guy right now, but he is definitely PPP. There was no enchi involved in his breeding. The picture does not show the yellow dorsal very well, but it has gotten even more yellow as he has aged. Who knows? You may be right, but even the pattern seems right. It is so flipping hard to tell when the genes start adding up.
Bugger!! My breeding was PhantomPin x Mochi so I was shooting from the hip on those three and it does look like I might have miscalled them... Guess someone got a sweet deal on the only PPEP to be sold LOL
Well I will add another couple for fun here, DesertGhost Mojave and DesertGhost Enchi Mojave
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...pspwin24aj.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...psysijt5be.jpg
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lovely babies!!!
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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
lovely babies!!!
Thanks. I should get more current pics of them, they have developed nicely since I took those
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I am absolutely amazed with how much better DG makes everything! Both those morphs without DG are average in my opinion but now with the DG they are breath taking! The brightness combined with contrast and darks that are actually dark, just awesome!
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Thanks. I should get more current pics of them, they have developed nicely since I took those
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I am absolutely amazed with how much better DG makes everything! Both those morphs without DG are average in my opinion but now with the DG they are breath taking! The brightness combined with contrast and darks that are actually dark, just awesome!
seriously, those babies are stunners. asp, if you have any spares laying around feel free to let me know. ;)
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