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T8 lighting solutions

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  • 01-29-2017, 11:02 PM
    tttaylorrr
    T8 lighting solutions
    so when i got my T8 i did not have lights put in, which i am now regretting.

    i had these 4" LED pucks that i attached to the inside top with magnets. they worked great for about a month, but they were super cheap and the remote crapped out.

    my T8 is black and it's difficult to do daily checks and cleaning when i have to have a flashlight in one hand.

    has anyone else done DIY lighting in a T8 or something similar? any advice or input is much appreciated!
  • 01-30-2017, 12:10 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    People are buying the Strips off ebay for $10. I guess they are just like what AP now installs. A little silicone and the ones i seen are great. The only thing thats diff is AP insets them but that really doesnt matter at all. They come in a long strip so you just cut them off at the length you want.
    Or if your more comfortable AP will sell you theirs for $15.
  • 01-30-2017, 12:18 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    thanks for the reply.

    that's what i'd like to do, but i'm wondering how curing works with silicone and how long it will take for it to be safe to have the tank up and running again. i still have leftover sealant from putting my T8 together: would that work? what's the best way to go about adding it?

    and also, how would the power supply work?
  • 01-30-2017, 01:59 AM
    BR8080
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    I'm going through the same process (3 T10's on order) and like the idea of having the lights in a channel but AP only offers 1 color. I'm interested in white for the day and red at night (I read somewhere snakes can't see red light?) because I work midnight shift and my nights off I'm usually awake and like to observe as she explores.

    I bought a multi-color with "white" LED strip with remote that you can cut to length on amazon ($15) and plan on using some silicone and letting it cure while the enclosure off gasses and I get the heat/humidity dialed in before putting the snakes in. I say "white" because it's not a true white as more of all LEDs on to simulate white. It's the closest I've seen in a multi-color strip so I figured I'd try it. Guess I'll find out when the enclosures get here and go from there, figure it's a $15 risk I'm willing to take.

    Good luck with your decision.
  • 01-30-2017, 02:09 AM
    Sauzo
    I opted for the AP lighting installed and don't regret it at all. I've learned over the years that it is much easier to have cage lighting installed rather than trying to bubblegum a solution. Sure its a little more cash but when I paid over $1000 for 3 T10s, $120 more for lighting that I don't have to mess with and can just plug and play was well worth it. I'll be ordering 3 T8s here in the next 2 months and then another 3 T25s later in the year and I will do the same as I did with my T10s, sliding glass doors, locks, lights, shelf, flexwatt. Having a plug and play unit is much easier.

    As for rigging your own lights, light mentioned, you can order them from AP or Amazon or Ebay and then silicone them to the roof and then drill a hole and cable clamp the plug wire down. About it really.
  • 01-30-2017, 04:26 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    thanks for the reply.

    that's what i'd like to do, but i'm wondering how curing works with silicone and how long it will take for it to be safe to have the tank up and running again. i still have leftover sealant from putting my T8 together: would that work? what's the best way to go about adding it?

    and also, how would the power supply work?

    Id run the strip about 5" from the back wall and drill a hole for the wire unless you already have a hole you can use... Don't do anything untill you have the LED's so you know the size hole ect.. I wouldnt use the T8 silicone. It stinks and has to be aired out to long. They sell silicone at lowes for $3.59. Get the small tube just to use for this. It dries completely within 30 min and sticks within a couple min.
  • 01-30-2017, 04:33 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Id run the strip about 5" from the back wall and drill a hole for the wire unless you already have a hole you can use... Don't do anything untill you have the LED's so you know the size hole ect.. I wouldnt use the T8 silicone. It stinks and has to be aired out to long. They sell silicone at lowes for $3.59. Get the small tube just to use for this. It dries completely within 30 min and sticks within a couple min.

    thanks for the advice; this is probably how i'll go about it. should be fairly simple: a hole and some silicone "gluing." i probably have some silicone lying around the house, actually.
  • 01-30-2017, 04:34 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Having a plug and play unit is much easier.


    i know, i honestly don't know why i didn't get every bell and whistle they had. live and learn. :gj:
  • 01-30-2017, 04:39 PM
    Prognathodon
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Husband and I install our own lightin in our AP cages. We use LED aquarium lights, so we don't have to worry about overspray when misting or cleaning. If you want to go that route, look for lights that can be retro-fit into an existing hood and mount to the ceiling with screws. The two or three brand I've bought have all had a round connector for power, so we just have to drill an appropriate size hole to pass it through. We don't worry about sealing the hole around the cord, since we don't have itty-bitty baby colubrids. [emoji6]


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  • 01-30-2017, 05:35 PM
    chakup
    AP will cut the channel for you for $5 fyi.
  • 01-30-2017, 05:49 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chakup View Post
    AP will cut the channel for you for $5 fyi.

    Unless they lowered the cost for cutting the light channel it's $10/cage. I had them do that for me last May. Well worth it to have a larger range of options with my own color changing LEDs


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  • 01-30-2017, 05:51 PM
    Zcarlrbrugger
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    I use an LED RGBW light strip fastened to the entire top perimeter, with a programmable controller. I like that I can set the white and red LEDs to each be on for 12 hours with a sunrise and sunset (brightening and dimming over the course of an hour). you need the plastic clips that screw into the PVC (ask me how I know). They are super bright. I have the white lights at 7% at the height of the day and the red at 3% in the beginning of the evening and going to 2% after Midnight. Even with the red LEDs at 2%, I can see the entire inside of the enclosure.http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...pskkkvjwfm.png
    http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4sgqo9ap.png
    http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psdbchfj6q.png
    http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psfcngwsnl.jpg
  • 01-30-2017, 07:14 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psfcngwsnl.jpg[/QUOTE]

    Thats a gorgeous set up. Nice job :)
  • 01-30-2017, 07:17 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    thanks for the advice; this is probably how i'll go about it. should be fairly simple: a hole and some silicone "gluing." i probably have some silicone lying around the house, actually.

    It's easy enough to do and you can always peal it off if you wanted to change something. If your indecisive like me you'll like that option alone hahahahaha
  • 01-30-2017, 07:23 PM
    Zcarlrbrugger
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:
    Thats a gorgeous set up. Nice job :)[/QUOTE]

    Thank you.
  • 01-30-2017, 07:42 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zcarlrbrugger View Post
    I use an LED RGBW light strip fastened to the entire top perimeter, with a programmable controller. I like that I can set the white and red LEDs to each be on for 12 hours with a sunrise and sunset (brightening and dimming over the course of an hour). you need the plastic clips that screw into the PVC (ask me how I know). They are super bright. I have the white lights at 7% at the height of the day and the red at 3% in the beginning of the evening and going to 2% after Midnight. Even with the red LEDs at 2%, I can see the entire inside of the enclosure.http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...pskkkvjwfm.png
    http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4sgqo9ap.png
    http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psdbchfj6q.png
    http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psfcngwsnl.jpg

    that is indeed a gorgeous set up. many options here for me. thanks for the input and ideas!
  • 01-30-2017, 08:13 PM
    chakup
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Unless they lowered the cost for cutting the light channel it's $10/cage. I had them do that for me last May. Well worth it to have a larger range of options with my own color changing LEDs


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    Ordered in October and again two weeks ago, $5 for the channel, they're installing rhp from pro products (they do this for free) and also are cutting an additional cord channel for me to run t-stat probe. Truly one of the best companies have ever dealt with.
  • 01-30-2017, 08:16 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: T8 lighting solutions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chakup View Post
    Ordered in October and again two weeks ago, $5 for the channel, they're installing rhp from pro products (they do this for free) and also are cutting an additional cord channel for me to run t-stat probe. Truly one of the best companies have ever dealt with.

    Where are they cutting the cord channel for the probe? I may have them do that the next time i order. Also free or no?


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  • 01-30-2017, 08:44 PM
    chakup
    No charge. I had them cut it as close to the rhp cord channel as they could as I use a hot spot. I'm sure they would wherever as long as no structural issues.
  • 01-30-2017, 08:57 PM
    Sauzo
    Nice to know but too much for me. I just go old school with flexwatt on all my cages and them installing the lights lol. I used to use RHPs but for my set ups, they couldn't maintain a low 90 hot spot without heating up the cool side to around 83F which imo is too hot. I like my cool spots around 78-80F. Here's my T10 stack. Going to do a 4 stack of T8s next to it and then 3 or 4 T25s next to that :) And you can see Caesar sitting there waiting for dinner like usual.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...11695c87_b.jpg
  • 01-30-2017, 09:15 PM
    cletus
    Those LEDs look pretty slick!
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