Deli cups water dishes, pvc pipes and silicone...questions ;)

I have become tired of my Ball Pythons pushing their water dishes around. They manage to tip even the heavy, no tip ones over. They never get tipped over all the way, of course, but they tip them slightly and water sloshes out. They also get substrate pushed in.

So I've been playing with the idea of the "Deli cup" water dishes. They are big enough, a bit taller (not to tall, though) and will be easy to swap out. I want to install a "mount" into the tub. Basically, a PVC pipe ring, that has the perfect diameter to hold the deli cup in place. I planned to hot glue the PVC down.

I've received the Deli cups today and was going to go to Lowes later to see what I can buy, PVC wise.

But there is just one thing that is bugging me. I don't want liquid urates or any nastiness to be able to creep underneath that PVC and Deli cup. That would defeat the purpose of making this easy and keeping it clean. So I thought about "sealing" the ring of PVC with some sort of silicone, just put a bead all around the bottom to keep any liquids or "stuff" from seeping under it.

Does anyone see a problem with that ? Which sealer would be "safe" for snakes ? Aquarium one?? How long should I "air it out" ?

I want to be sure I do this right...before I glue stuff ;)

I have bought brand new tubs as well, so that I have an extra set. This way I can take my time setting this up.

Thanks for any help and ideas :)

Any silicon sealant should work, I've used the clear lexel sealant with a lot of my projects. Your plan sounds good in theory, the only way to know if it will work well in practice is to try it.

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Just bought some today... DAP Silicone bath & kitchen waterproof ect... $5.68 at lowes. I love your idea too.. Depending on the size of the water dish you can Silicone just about any PVC/Plastic barrier that sits about the same height so it cant be spilled.. Take a walk around the Plumbing Section near Toilet Drains so the PVC Pipe Circumference is bigger than sink pvc, at least like a (6") pvc Coupler.

Id decide on the size (Diameter cup your going to use and buy a 10' length) and cut a bunch off cylinders off of it.. Here is a example of a 8" diameter... Of corse the smaller the diameter the cheaper and vice versa.
I found up to 12" diameter and down to 1.5"...
https://m.lowes.com/pd/Charlotte-Pip...-Pipe/50152524

6" too
https://m.lowes.com/pd/Charlotte-Pip...-Pipe/50152546

There is a coupler that fits perfect and one that is close but is slightly too large, I'm not sure what you call the one that fits perfect but look around and you'll find it. I think it cost less than $2 per coupler. I put them in all my ARS-80 tubs and used silicone to glue them down. I glue all the way around the coupler to the bottom, I've only ever had one pop off, I still need to reglue it, but for now I'm using it for a small king snake that can't push it over. They even work great for my 10 pound reticulated python, she can't knock it over. I used to throw out all my dirty deli cups but I decided to keep them and wash them when I run out, works great instead of buying new cups. If you buy a case of 500 you can use new ones for a very long time before you have to wash the old ones out (depending on how many tubs you have). My ARS-70 series tubs have built in cup holders, they basically work the same. The couplers work great but are not as pretty as the built in cup holders LOL. Of course you really can't tell when the deli cup is in there and full of water.

Thanks all, for the tips and advice !! Very much appreciated :)

I got this today to seal around the PVC. Its safe for aquariums and around food, so I figure it should be plenty safe around reptiles, once cured..

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...28503006_n.jpg


Finally got my deli cups in, too.


http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...63156094_n.jpg


I have looked at different PVC couplers online. Seems most people use the 4 inch one. However, my Deli cups are just a bit over 4 inch wide on the bottom, and of course the top has that lip around it that makes it even wider. The lip can rest on the PVC, so not a problem, but not sure the deli cup will fit into the 4 inch coupler. I would rather the coupler not be way bigger around then the Deli cup, would prefer a snug fit.

Tomorrow I will take one of the Deli cups to the hardware store and have a look around. Ideally I will find some coupler that will fit, because then I don't have to cut rings off of a pipe. Either way, I will find something ;) I want this to look good and be functional..

Ok, I'm not sure "how" I measured the deli cups earlier, but they are actually a bit LESS then 4 inch across the bottom. So I'm getting the 4 inch PVC couplers tomorrow, and then I will fix up the new tubs, let the silicone cure, and move the snakes into the clean, new and improved tubs ;)

Then I can deep clean and scrub the old tubs and keep them as spares..

I'm looking forward NOT to have all that soaked aspen from spilled water in freshly cleaned tubs :)

That is an awesome idea!!!

I've often come home from work (I work midnight shift at the 911 center) and it looks like a bulldozer has been through her enclosure and wondered what I'm going to do when my snakes grow.

The only thing I wonder is if it's large enough for them to get a soak if they want? Do balls ever soak like boas do?

Could someone upload a picture of the coupler you're talking about? I've been looking for a way to keep my snakes from dumping their water bowls as well, I already have a tube of that DAP sealant from making things for my axolotls. Are you still planning on gluing the pvc to the tub as well?

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Ok, I'm not sure "how" I measured the deli cups earlier, but they are actually a bit LESS then 4 inch across the bottom. So I'm getting the 4 inch PVC couplers tomorrow, and then I will fix up the new tubs, let the silicone cure, and move the snakes into the clean, new and improved tubs ;)

Then I can deep clean and scrub the old tubs and keep them as spares..

I'm looking forward NOT to have all that soaked aspen from spilled water in freshly cleaned tubs :)

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Well a 4" coupler is a millimeter bigger so that it slides over a 4" PVC (outside Diameter) pipe..so the 4" coupler should be 100% perfect for you :)

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Could someone upload a picture of the coupler you're talking about? I've been looking for a way to keep my snakes from dumping their water bowls as well, I already have a tube of that DAP sealant from making things for my axolotls. Are you still planning on gluing the pvc to the tub as well?

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Here you go.. Also this LINK allows you to change the Diamiter you might need for different size water cups/bowls.
https://m.lowes.com/pd/Charlotte-Pip...itting/3132707

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That is an awesome idea!!!

I've often come home from work (I work midnight shift at the 911 center) and it looks like a bulldozer has been through her enclosure and wondered what I'm going to do when my snakes grow.

The only thing I wonder is if it's large enough for them to get a soak if they want? Do balls ever soak like boas do?

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Aside from some rescues I had many years ago, I never had a Ball Python soaking. Perhaps some do, but I usually see it when there is some kind of issue. Mites, to hot, not enough humidity etc. Every once in a blue moon I found one of my Ball Pythons resting their neck in the water bowl. They never tried to cram in there, though.

If I wanted a dish that lets them soak, I would need a huge one for the really big Ball Pythons and I just don't see that as a necessary thing for Ball Pythons. :)

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Could someone upload a picture of the coupler you're talking about? I've been looking for a way to keep my snakes from dumping their water bowls as well, I already have a tube of that DAP sealant from making things for my axolotls. Are you still planning on gluing the pvc to the tub as well?

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No, if I use the coupler I'm not glueing the deli cup down. The coupler is essentially a "ring" so I will put a bit of the silicone on the bottom of that ring and then a bead all around. I just don't want urine to be able to soak underneath of that ring and the cup. So I want the edge "sealed". The Deli cups will just sit in that ring, easily removable.

Some people glue one deli cup into the enclosure, and then just use that as the "holder", putting another deli cup into this one, exchanging the top one whenever necessary. But I nixed that idea, because I would still want to seal the lower cup down and I'm not sure how long that deli cup would last, through deep cleanings, etc. While the cups I got are pretty sturdy, much more so then I thought they would be, I still don't want the chance of one of the heavier pythons cruising over it and cracking it, cutting themselves on it.

The PVC coupler seems a far better, sturdier and long lasting idea. Shouldn't look bad at all, either. Not sure if I have time to mess with this today, but I will post pictures when I'm done ;)

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Well a 4" coupler is a millimeter bigger so that it slides over a 4" PVC (outside Diameter) pipe..so the 4" coupler should be 100% perfect for you :)

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Yes, it should be !!

And honestly, I don't know how I measured it that first time, sheesh. I don't even have the excuse of having had a drink..LOL

I was in a hurry, though.

I'm glad its actually the perfect size to work with that coupler. Because I bought a "lot" of 250 deli cups ;)

Ok, went on my Lowes trip.

Surprisingly, the 4 inch coupler did NOT work :( It is way to tall. And the deli cup only fits halfway into it. Because of a lip in the middle of the coupler. For that to work, I would have had to cut the coupler in half and then only one part would work, the other would be to short. And the whole point of using a piece such as that was not having to cut. I don't really have the right saw to cut pieces off and have the cut be level all around. And it needs to be level to sit flush in the tub. Couple pics:

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...p/huge/1_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...p/huge/2_1.jpg


Next was a 4 inch PVC cap. Now that would be awesome if it was just a little bit taller !! My deli cup sticks out just a tad to much. If a snake cruises on top of the deli cup they can tip it a bit. Not enough to spill water I don't think, but still. If I'm going through all this work, and don't want it to end up being mediocre. The PVC cap is nice and level on the bottom. If the deli cup would be a bit shorter (or the cap higher) this would be my preferred part. Pics:

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...dup/huge/5.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...dup/huge/6.jpg


Next try: a 4 inch PVC female pipe thread adapter. This is a funny one. It actually works quite well. The Deli cup sits just deep enough in it to where the BP's can't tip it at all. It makes the cup sit up higher, but not to high for the tub. Its nice and level on the bottom. The bottom part is wider then the top. Not by much at all, perhaps 2/8th of an inch, all the way around. So the entire diameter is about 1/4 of an inch wider then the 4 inch coupler or cap. You don't loose much space. There are the "ridges" but they aren't sharp at all and may actually be nice for the snake to rub on when shedding. I think I might just go with those. They cost twice as much as the coupler, $4 something, but its worth it for me not having to make those cuts. Pics:

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...p/huge/3_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...p/huge/4_1.jpg

Here are a few comparison pictures of both the cap and the adapter in the tubs (not glued in). Also a couple pictures of "side by side". One of them showing how much the Deli cup can "tip" with weight on it. Also, if the BP cruises by the deli cup and sort of slides up sideways, it could possibly lift the deli cup out of the cap with its body. That cannot be done with the adapter, as it is higher. (tested it) So I'm pretty sure I will go with the adapters. Ideally I could make perfectly level cuts and just cut the length I need off of a 4 inch pipe.

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...dup/huge/7.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...dup/huge/9.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...dup/huge/8.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...up/huge/10.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...up/huge/12.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...up/huge/11.jpg

:)

I wish you were close, i would cut 20 cup holders for ya out of a 10' peice of pvc pipe in 5 min flat..
I cant remember how many enclosures you have so im not going to try and talk you into trying it yourself hahahhaha...a small $8 Hack Saw with a metal blade cuts PVC easily with a little common sense and coordination ..the ideal saw would be a Chop saw with a small tooth blade, makes a Perfect cut.
All my babbling aside i'd say you got it nailed down.. I hate to see someone pay so much for a PVC cap but sometimes we all spend a little more for perfection.
I love LOWES, my girls wont even go with me becaue i can get lost for a hour in there lol. I have two 5' pieces of PVC 3/4" painted ripple grit brown that im going to install in my T12. Im going to drill a few holes and attach some reptile safe Vines/leaves onto the PVC branches along with a 8"x5" (scale model) tree swing im hanging too hahahahaha.

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I wish you were close, i would cut 20 cup holders for ya out of a 10' peice of pvc pipe in 5 min flat..
I cant remember how many enclosures you have so im not going to try and talk you into trying it yourself hahahhaha...a small $8 Hack Saw with a metal blade cuts PVC easily with a little common sense and coordination ..the ideal saw would be a Chop saw with a small tooth blade, makes a Perfect cut.
All my babbling aside i'd say you got it nailed down.. I hate to see someone pay so much for a PVC cap but sometimes we all spend a little more for perfection.
I love LOWES, my girls wont even go with me becaue i can get lost for a hour in there lol. I have two 5' pieces of PVC 3/4" painted ripple grit brown that im going to install in my T12. Im going to drill a few holes and attach some reptile safe Vines/leaves onto the PVC branches along with a 8"x5" (scale model) tree swing im hanging too hahahahaha.

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I only need 6 ;)

So its not to bad. My problem is this...I'm a bit (a lot) OCD. I'm a perfectionist. I would want the cuts REALLY level and sitting nice and flush on the tub so they could easily be glued down without gaps. And while I'm pretty good with home improvement projects and have even worked a bit on vehicles and a lot on improvements at the horse barn, I'm not sure I could get all 6 cuts that perfect with a hand saw. Its not "hard" work, but the saw would have to be held precisely at a straight angle and precisely level. I'm so "a.al" about stuff its not even funny...

I do love Lowes. I think I like Home Depot even better, they seem to have a larger selection and better tools. But its a 30 min drive to the closest Home Depot. Give me a hardware store over the mall any day !!! :)

Make sure you post about your "upgrades" and projects, with lots of pictures. I always need inspiration and ideas !! :)

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Aside from some rescues I had many years ago, I never had a Ball Python soaking. Perhaps some do, but I usually see it when there is some kind of issue. Mites, to hot, not enough humidity etc. Every once in a blue moon I found one of my Ball Pythons resting their neck in the water bowl. They never tried to cram in there, though.

If I wanted a dish that lets them soak, I would need a huge one for the really big Ball Pythons and I just don't see that as a necessary thing for Ball Pythons. :)

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Awesome - thank you - I'm still trying to figure things out as I'm new to snake ownership and appreciate the info from experienced owners such as yourself :bow:

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I only need 6 ;)

So its not to bad. My problem is this...I'm a bit (a lot) OCD. I'm a perfectionist. I would want the cuts REALLY level and sitting nice and flush on the tub so they could easily be glued down without gaps. And while I'm pretty good with home improvement projects and have even worked a bit on vehicles and a lot on improvements at the horse barn, I'm not sure I could get all 6 cuts that perfect with a hand saw. Its not "hard" work, but the saw would have to be held precisely at a straight angle and precisely level. I'm so "a.al" about stuff its not even funny...

I do love Lowes. I think I like Home Depot even better, they seem to have a larger selection and better tools. But its a 30 min drive to the closest Home Depot. Give me a hardware store over the mall any day !!! :)

Make sure you post about your "upgrades" and projects, with lots of pictures. I always need inspiration and ideas !! :)

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Ohhh ok, well 6 is ok if you have to spend a few bucks extra for perfection lol. I know all about that hahha Im that guy that buys white Lvrm rugs then has anxioty because the Couch Throw Blankests drop fuzzies on it hahahahahaha.
The Silicone works great too so your going to love it. I use it to tack my wires down in the enclosures. It holds better than tape ever would and its safe for the snakes Win Win. Put a bead around the bottom and stick it where you want it.. leave for 30min and you'll love the results. If you even have to rearrange things it scrapes off easily too.
Im patiently waiting for the new T12 to come. Ive made diagrams of how Im setting it up, drilling & running the panel/Tstat/therm wires ect along with the PVC fake branches..
As much as I love AP the wait time of 3-4mos is kinda nuts.. 2 months is no biggy but geez 12-14weeks is getting to long. (However I will be extremely happy and it will be well worth the wait) ;)

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Ohhh ok, well 6 is ok if you have to spend a few bucks extra for perfection lol. I know all about that hahha Im that guy that buys white Lvrm rugs then has anxioty because the Couch Throw Blankests drop fuzzies on it hahahahahaha.
The Silicone works great too so your going to love it. I use it to tack my wires down in the enclosures. It holds better than tape ever would and its safe for the snakes Win Win. Put a bead around the bottom and stick it where you want it.. leave for 30min and you'll love the results. If you even have to rearrange things it scrapes off easily too.
Im patiently waiting for the new T12 to come. Ive made diagrams of how Im setting it up, drilling & running the panel/Tstat/therm wires ect along with the PVC fake branches..
As much as I love AP the wait time of 3-4mos is kinda nuts.. 2 months is no biggy but geez 12-14weeks is getting to long. (However I will be extremely happy and it will be well worth the wait) ;)

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Oh wow...I had no idea the wait is THAT long on the AP cages. I thought the wait on my Boaphile rack was long, lol. I guess good things are worth waiting for. But 4 month ?? sheesh..

So all my adapters are glued and sealed into the new tubs and curing. Going to wait until Tuesday and then add aspen and snakes, LOL.

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...11160973_n.jpg

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Im patiently waiting for the new T12 to come. Ive made diagrams of how Im setting it up, drilling & running the panel/Tstat/therm wires ect along with the PVC fake branches..
As much as I love AP the wait time of 3-4mos is kinda nuts.. 2 months is no biggy but geez 12-14weeks is getting to long. (However I will be extremely happy and it will be well worth the wait) ;)

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I thought 10-13 weeks was a stretch as well but when I figure they make them to order and at that price point, and as you said, it's well worth it. LOL

Yup I love their prices, especially the sales, however i wanted something specific & didn't buy anything on sale this time hahaha
I'd think as popular as they are they wood keep 20 of each model on hand... They sell tons of these things.

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Oh wow...I had no idea the wait is THAT long on the AP cages. I thought the wait on my Boaphile rack was long, lol. I guess good things are worth waiting for. But 4 month ?? sheesh..

So all my adapters are glued and sealed into the new tubs and curing. Going to wait until Tuesday and then add aspen and snakes, LOL.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...11160973_n.jpg

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Wow those even look good!!! I think that was best instead of trying to cut anything. Im glad it all worked out. Cant wait to see a pic with the occupant all moved in hahahahah

( and you can get the small T8 in 8-10 weeks but the large are 14+.. But good things come to those who wait;)

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Wow those even look good!!! I think that was best instead of trying to cut anything. Im glad it all worked out. Cant wait to see a pic with the occupant all moved in hahahahah

( and you can get the small T8 in 8-10 weeks but the large are 14+.. But good things come to those who wait;)

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I think you did well. If I were to buy a cage, I would want the larger one. I know BP's don't "need" it, but these cages still heat well and hold humidity. That is the main concern. Also easy to clean. Still enclosed on all sides and top. And the space can be filled out with "stuff". I kind of regret I didn't go larger with my one "Display" cage. I might just have to sell it and bump one size up. My large male totally fills it up, haha. And when he does cruise, its just so beautiful to watch...

So yeah, while the wait would kill me (patience so not my virtue) I would have done the same.

I sit for 15-20 min each night before bed and watch them. They come out of their hides like clock work unless its the week before a shed. At 8pm they start climbing like monkeys hahaha. So graceful that it chills me out watching them before bed.
Ohhh and I bet you could always sell your smaller enclosure if you wanted to upgrade.... The 18" high is the smallest I'd go just for the simple fact mine love to climb.

Project done ;)

Looking forward to not having to re-clean tubs nonstop because they manage to tip the "non tippable" bowls just enough to empty half the water into the clean tub.

The Deli cup sits about a inch off of the bottom of the tub. Their is a wider edge around the top half inch of the Deli cup that prevents it from sitting down lower into the adapter. But that is fine with me, because this way they cannot push substrate into the Deli cup. It still sits secure, cannot be tipped or pushed out at all.

They are all excitably checking out the new bowls ;)

Next thing is possibly changing to a different substrate. I LOVE the Reptichip's ability to hold humidity and esp. to soak up a mess quickly and leave almost no odor. But I don't like how chunky it is. I always wished the "chips" were smaller. I don't want the completely ground up coco stuff, because that is a mess as well and doesn't soak up liquid as well. So I've been on the fence..

Then I've come across "Herptopia" bedding and it seems it is exactly what I wished for. Coco substrate that is still "chunky" but the chunks are far smaller. It is "fluffier" and softer. Very good at soaking up moisture because during manufacturing they "knock off" the dust almost completely. I believe it will be easier to spot clean as well because the chips aren't so huge and chunky. I have ordered 4 bags to try it out. So we shall see. For now my only beef is that there is only one size bag available and there seems to be no shipping discount by ordering several bags. I have heard they are in the process of changing sizes and such, so we shall see..

But for now, I'm happy ;)

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens.../large/1_2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens.../large/2_2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens.../large/3_2.jpg

That looks great Zina... How has it worked now that its been a full 2 day?
As far as Substrate..do you have a Pet Store or and Farm Supply store that might be able to take orders of what your looking for if you give them the info? Sometimes they get free shipping because sellers want them to sell/push their product...?

Water cups working out wonderful !!!

So much less work. I was constantly changing water because they would push substrate in or push the bowls over the heat tape.

Or dump half the water, and then I had to change out half the tubs Aspen. Usually right after cleaning the tub ...haha.


Didn't take long at all and they were being investigated and the first drinks were taken

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens.../large/2_3.jpg


They are great to "hold on to" LOL

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens.../large/3_3.jpg


And...the slanted/wider bottom of the adapter apparently makes a great "pillow". Ember was out like a light. Slept like this for quite a while, haha.

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens.../large/1_3.jpg


So I'd say, it was a success. A lot less work and mess now and the snakes sure seem to like them :)


About the substrate, there really is only one local petstore that would possibly stock something like this. And I really rather not do ANY business with them. I hate going there. They keep their reptiles simply pathetically. They make petsmart and petco look good. So I will actually rather pay shipping, god knows what I would bring home buying anything from that store..

Forgot to mention, I ended up using a different silicone/glue. The one I had popped off far to easily with the Pythons pushing against the dishes...

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Forgot to mention, I ended up using a different silicone/glue. The one I had popped off far to easily with the Pythons pushing against the dishes...

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I use the "DAP K&B" Kitchen and Bath. What DAP was that so I don't get it?
Just went back to the 1st page and seen the Pic. Thats odd, did all of them pop off or just one? Maybe just a fluke because It says 100% Silicone Adhesive. Who knows but looks like your all set now hahhaha and it looks like there happy as well :gj:

DAP "All purpose adhesive sealant, aquarium safe"

It just won't hold on to the plastic of the tub. Perhaps it works better on glass ??

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I use the "DAP K&B" Kitchen and Bath. What DAP was that so I don't get it?
Just went back to the 1st page and seen the Pic. Thats odd, did all of them pop off or just one? Maybe just a fluke because It says 100% Silicone Adhesive. Who knows but looks like your all set now hahhaha and it looks like there happy as well :gj:

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2 popped off.

The one in the male tub. He is a bit of a horn dog and since breeding started he is all over his tub pushing, digging, etc.

Then one more in a female tub, she likes to cram herself in between stuff. I guess she crammed to hard.

After the second one I tested another one and it really didn't even take any effort at all. Popped right off.

Well, minor setback in the big picture, LOL.

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2 popped off.

The one in the male tub. He is a bit of a horn dog and since breeding started he is all over his tub pushing, digging, etc.

Then one more in a female tub, she likes to cram herself in between stuff. I guess she crammed to hard.

After the second one I tested another one and it really didn't even take any effort at all. Popped right off.

Well, minor setback in the big picture, LOL.

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Hahahaha @Horn Dog :rofl::rofl:
I bet your right & its the Aquarium kind and is better for glass:gj:

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Hahahaha @Horn Dog :rofl::rofl:
I bet your right & its the Aquarium kind and is better for glass:gj:

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You should see his tub in the morning !!!

I mean, its a tub. With aspen. And a water dish.

Yet he manages to make it look like a hurricane went through there, sheesh !!!!

I don't know what he is doing in there...but I can only assume its some kind of horn-dog dance..:rolleyes:

See what I mean ????

I straightened that tub out earlier. And this is what it looks like now !! He never used to do that, LOL !!


http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...04746182_n.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...00578146_n.jpg

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(his tub with the new adapter/deli dish has the new glue curing, he gets it tomorrow)

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See what I mean ????

I straightened that tub out earlier. And this is what it looks like now !! He never used to do that, LOL !!


https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...04746182_n.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...00578146_n.jpg

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(his tub with the new adapter/deli dish has the new glue curing, he gets it tomorrow)

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lol... My male flips his Hide over each night...not sure why and he probably isnt either haha.
Hopefully your male isnt to spunky for the Silicone!! The kind i use for my probes & wires though is even hard for me to remove so im sure yours is good now too.
He's a good lookin boy :snake:

What silicone did you use the second time around?

I used "Loctite Tub & Tile" Seal & Bond.

It is scrub and mildew resistant. I bought the "clear". It goes on white, but as it dries, it turns "clear".

I've used it before when I glued what seemed like millions of tiny glass tiles on my bathroom mirrors (did a mosaic surround) and it worked great.
But...it DOES hold. I'm not sure the adapters would be easily removable anymore. Ever. But to me, that is quite alright. I had already tested how this worked with the ones that popped off and I was quite sure that I wanted the adapters to stay where they are.

Just make sure you make the bead along the pvc big enough so that a tiny big squeezes out all around when you carefully push down the PVC on the tub. Not to much, of course. You want it to cure correctly. Just enough so you know you have a seal all around and no liquids can seep underneath the PVC.

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Awesome. Glad to have someone else test these things ^_^ Now I look forward to getting this set up for myself

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Originally Posted by Meerna

Awesome. Glad to have someone else test these things ^_^ Now I look forward to getting this set up for myself

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The only thing I can't believe now is that I waited SO LONG to do something like this.

For 6 years now I've been getting annoyed with the snakes dumping their water !!

What was really maddening was that they would usually wait until right after I cleaned the tubs and added fresh aspen.
I would walk by and see crazy condensation..yup, half the water in the tub and I would have to change out half the aspen AGAIN.

Or change water all the time because they managed to push some substrate into the dishes. Or move the dishes around again because they pushed them over the heat tape.

Ugh.

I've tried so many different dishes, too. Found ones that won't tip all the way, but they still managed to tip them enough to empty out half the water.

So ask me again why I waited SO LONG to rectify this issue... LOL

I know how you feel. I use paper towel at the moment but so often after I clean the tubs I'll walk by minutes later and one of my bigger ones will have knocked it over and soaked the fresh paper towel.