what to pair a Pastel Desert Ghost female to ?? here are options..

I just bought a Pastel Desert Ghost female. I love Desert Ghosts and what they "do" to the other morphs.

Breeding has never been my main priority, I'm just a collector and admirer. However, these Desert Ghost possibilities are tempting..

"IF" I decided to breed my girl later on, what would be a good pairing ? I'm not worried about "profit" or what sells best, etc. She will also not be bred until 3rd year and heavy enough.

Which one of the following males would YOU get and WHY ?? :)

- Enchi Lemonblast Desert Ghost
- Bumblebee Desert Ghost
- Pastel Enchi Desert Ghost
- Pastel Yellowbelly Desert Ghost

I've seen a few others (chocolate, black pastel butter combos) but they do not have that gorgeous contrast and color. Since I might never even breed, I want to love the "look" of the snake I'm getting, not just the possibilities it provides me with.

All 4 of the above are gorgeous :)

Let me know your thoughts...appreciate it :)

the only thing is...the Enchi Lemonblast Desert Ghost sort of looks like my Super (Killer) Blast male. I'm sure it will end up looking cleaner and has cooler genetics, but I don't want to end up with 2 snakes so similar. But he IS gorgeous, so its still tempting..

Hmmm I would prefer the pastel enchi desert ghost

I think the enchi helps focus on the brilliance of the color, and at the same time, offer some nice pattern to the BP, but really don't overwhelm it. Makes the snake look not too busy, and clean.

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I don't know if you have ever heard of the Desert gene complications with female ball pythons, although the morph itself is gorgeous and if made with the best matching genes to it can be stunning it has a potential problem you can face.
Females can have fertility problems, leading to slug eggs, and if some do have what seem to be fertile eggs, they can have laying issues and the eggs can get stuck.
I do not know if this applies to a female who has more than one gene to it, so I will limit what I say to what I know, I hope I helped, let us know what you final thoughts of it may be.
I'll leave a link for more information :D

https://jkrballstreetjournal.com/201...nd-case-study/

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I don't know if you have ever heard of the Desert gene complications with female ball pythons, although the morph itself is gorgeous and if made with the best matching genes to it can be stunning it has a potential problem you can face.
Females can have fertility problems, leading to slug eggs, and if some do have what seem to be fertile eggs, they can have laying issues and the eggs can get stuck.
I do not know if this applies to a female who has more than one gene to it, so I will limit what I say to what I know, I hope I helped, let us know what you final thoughts of it may be.
I'll leave a link for more information :D

https://jkrballstreetjournal.com/201...nd-case-study/

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Desert and Desert Ghost are two different genes.

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

Desert and Desert Ghost are two different genes.

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Ah! Of course, that makes sense, I tough of them as a Desert and a Ghost (hypo). :P

Thanks for the suggestion. Another plus to picking the Pastel Enchi Desert Ghost is that the snake is gorgeous !!!

Of course I do not mind a "busier" pattern, so the Pastel Yellowbelly Desert Ghost is also nothing to sneeze at ;)

But the Bumblebee Desert Ghost is the one that seems to tempt me the most, although the whole wobble thing is not something I'm real happy with.
All that said, I have a Bumblebee female and just adore that snake. If she has a wobble (which I'm sure she does) its so faint I never notice it. The worst I ever see is her having bad aim at the FT rat every now and then.

I could also wait a year or two, since my female needs longer to grow for breeding , then a male would . That way I could see what's available next year, and perhaps the ones I like might even drop in price by then. Again, I'm not in it for profit or worried about it. But if what I like is cheaper next year, that's not a bad thing, either....

Have you considered a leopard combo? Leopard goes exquisitely with desert ghost in my opinion, the crisp look of the desert ghost really sets off the color contrast and aberrant pattern of the leopard, and cleans things up. I would go for a leopard pin desert ghost or a leopard lemonblast desert ghost.

Out of your list I think I would go for the enchi lemonblast or the bumblebee, I'm a sucker for bumblebee desert ghosts but you have more posibilities with the enchi lemonblast, and the desert ghost pins are stunning as well. Something with a pattern mutation is the best way to go in my opinion, the desert ghost seems to really add to and clean up pattern morphs.

I love leopards, too, but haven't found a breeder that breeds leopards as well as desert ghost ? Don't seem to find many Desert Ghosts at all, but from the breeder I bought my girl from. I'm tempted by the enchi lemonblast, I just wonder what it will look like as an adult, I would like to keep as well as breed snakes that look really good as adults. I know all of them are brighter as hatchlings and young snakes, but it seems some morphs help out keeping them looking good :)

Do you know anyone that works with DG combos ??

That is the hardest decision I think I've ever seen when it comes to ball pythons... are these all from the same breeder? If I were you I'd ask whether they have the chance of hitting like a enchi bumble bee this coming season.

Honestly it's up to you but any of the last three seem like really great choices. Ultimately I don't think it's a decision I could make if I had to...

I guess there is another option... buy them all haha


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Sure, let me just go shake that money tree a bit, LOL.

Let me tell you ...my absolute Dream snake (at least for this week) is the Desert Ghost Lemonblast Yellowbelly Sugar female I found. ....droooooooooooooooool.

You don't like the first one ?

And yes, they are all from the same breeder that I got my girl from.

I need to decide soon, or wait until next year. The temps are getting colder...

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Sure, let me just go shake that money tree a bit, LOL.

Let me tell you ...my absolute Dream snake (at least for this week) is the Desert Ghost Lemonblast Yellowbelly Sugar female I found. ....droooooooooooooooool.

You don't like the first one ?

And yes, they are all from the same breeder that I got my girl from.

I need to decide soon, or wait until next year. The temps are getting colder...

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*Trigger warning*

I'm not a huge fan of pinstripes TBH. They look really good in some morphs, I love the really busy combos like clown and trick. Now that I've double checked they actually look pretty good with desert ghost too but personally if I were to choose out of those four I'd be much more inclined to get the others over it. Plus it's probably the most expensive lol

I'll have to look up that combo you mentioned. Now that's a mouthful!


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See...and I like the pinstripes. But only as Killer Blast and up. LOL.
I do have a Killer Blast.

I actually like the combos with the Pins, but again, only the "up there" ones.

Aside from them, I like the really crazy busy patterns, with a TON of contrast and color. But my main thing is, I like morphs that help the animal to keep the good looks into adulthood.

I do like Clown combos, leopards, busy yellowbelly combos, etc. But I'm trying to get a Desert Ghost male for the female I have. But also one that will pair nicely with the other females I have. Those of course will only produce Desert Ghost hets. But with the male also having Lemonblast and Enchi, it would mesh nicely with my Bumblebee, Pastel Lesser and Pastel Enchi.

Gosh, I said breeding wasn't going to be my top priority and I just want beautiful animals, LOL. And here I go.
But yes, that snake has to be one I love visually...and it has to be a Desert Ghost something male ;)

That female Lemon Blast Sugar Yellowbelly Desert Ghost Ball Python is stunning to me. Since I also like Calico and Sugar. But yeah, she is a wee bit out of price range.

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See...and I like the pinstripes. But only as Killer Blast and up. LOL.
I do have a Killer Blast.

I actually like the combos with the Pins, but again, only the "up there" ones.

Aside from them, I like the really crazy busy patterns, with a TON of contrast and color. But my main thing is, I like morphs that help the animal to keep the good looks into adulthood.

I do like Clown combos, leopards, busy yellowbelly combos, etc. But I'm trying to get a Desert Ghost male for the female I have. But also one that will pair nicely with the other females I have. Those of course will only produce Desert Ghost hets. But with the male also having Lemonblast and Enchi, it would mesh nicely with my Bumblebee, Pastel Lesser and Pastel Enchi.

Gosh, I said breeding wasn't going to be my top priority and I just want beautiful animals, LOL. And here I go.
But yes, that snake has to be one I love visually...and it has to be a Desert Ghost something male ;)

That female Lemon Blast Sugar Yellowbelly Desert Ghost Ball Python is stunning to me. Since I also like Calico and Sugar. But yeah, she is a wee bit out of price range.

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It sounds to me like you already know the answer lol, yeah based off of your animals I wouldn't get the spider. Omitting the yellowbelly you might as well get the pin for that extra potential.


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Haha...

Was that a case of " I answered my own question " ???

LOL.

It does help to get insight from other people, though..

After mulling this over and over in my head I have come to a decision.

I will wait another year.

The little Pastel Desert Ghost female has some growing up to do before even thinking of breeding her.

So even if I get a Desert Ghost "some other genes" male NEXT season, he will have plenty of time to grow up to breeding size before the female is old/big enough.
And this way I might have a bigger selection or even more of an idea of what I really want. If nothing else, I will buy a male just like the one I like now. Hopefully he will have more next year.

This season is my first attempt at breeding. All my adults are 6 years old. I'm pairing the Killer Blast with the Bumble Bee. If things work out I can use the Killer Blast and breed one or all of the other adult females next year (Bumblebee, Pastel Lesser, Pastel Enchi)

But the Pastel Desert Ghost female will definitely be bred to another Desert Ghost male, when she is ready... I simply love the DG combos, I love how they look great as adults.

All are good options, but breed for what you want to produce. It all comes down to what you like, you'll be the one caring for the offspring and potentially holding some back.