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What Would Be A Good Ball Python Breeding Project? I'm Thinking Of Breeding A Few Fires Together To Get Some Black Eyed Leucistics. What Do You Guys Think?

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What Would Be A Good Ball Python Breeding Project? I'm Thinking Of Breeding A Few Fires Together To Get Some Black Eyed Leucistics. What Do You Guys Think?

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What are your favorite morphs? What is your end goal? Are you breeding for yourself or to sell?

I Would Like To Do Both. Thats Why I Picked The Fires. The Black Eyed Leucistics Are Amazing And They Are High Dollar Snakes, But I Would Like To Stay On The Side Of Sell To Be Able To Afford More Bleeding Projects.

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I'm doing the same myself, I have a female Fire coming to me in the next month and then I plan on buying a male Fire in the next year to breed some Lucy's. I like the look of them myself, but I don't have the funds to out and just buy one, so I've decided to go the long way around it and breed my own. The female is a 2015 hatchling so that'll save a little time though.

Breed what you enjoy and want in your collection :gj:

This is also a situation im stuggling with. I currently have one pair that i will breed, a pastel/butter/ghost female to a killerbee yellowbelly male but they will not be ready until end of next year for the 2018 season. The thought was to go after a white walker lol but couldnt find a killerbee enchi. In any case im trying to get two adults now to breed this season. My stuggle is choosing the morph. I know i want to breed clown but even Het females are very expensive. So i have toyed going the Kalabash route which is a much more affordable project but man i just love clowns. My goal is to only breed a couple clutches a year. But i want snakes that are valuable enough where i can get enough back to invest into better breeders (more/better genes) its a conundrum that's for sure

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Funny I Was Thinking About Doing Het Clowns To, Because There One Of My Favorite Base Morphs, But I Don't Trust Buying Hets.

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Funny I Was Thinking About Doing Het Clowns To, Because There One Of My Favorite Base Morphs, But I Don't Trust Buying Hets.

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There are tons of REPUTABLE breeders selling hets, and by that I mean reputable breeder, someone no one ever heard off selling on facebook or craiglist is not what I call a legitimate breeder or someone reputable I have bought my fair share of het and never had any concern and that is way back when hets were 2 to 3 times more expensive than visuals.

It's about who you buy from.

If you want to breed I am pretty sure at some point you will want people to trust you, goes both ways.

The het scam is not as likely to happen as it used to a decade ago.

Who are some reputable breeders? Would it be better offline or from a show?

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Who are some reputable breeders? Would it be better offline or from a show?

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Go to fauna classifieds. If you register you can search their BOI forum. So for instance I'll be on morph market, see a snake i like, click the breeder profile then search the persons name in the BOI. Then you can see if people have had dealings with them and what they say. If theres no posts about them i generally stay away. Same obviously if theres bad postings. Its really a great resource. You can also post your own thread asking about a breeder. I actually got directly in contact with one by doing that. Shows are also great, although ive found theres definitely more hatchlings than adults. I have only been to a couple though

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Thank you. This seems really helpful.

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Originally Posted by Griz/Rosco B.Pythons

Who are some reputable breeders? Would it be better offline or from a show?

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Just wanted to add, shows are not all reputable breeders. There are flippers and occassional sketchy sellers there too who have no clue about the animals they're selling. I'd personally even prefer finding a reputable breeder online, because you can do research on their profile and feedback just to play it safe.

Makes since. I've actually bought 4 snakes from a show. One Cal King and 3 Balls. The cal king is amazing but the others had problems. One was the wrong gender, one had a infection, and the other didn't eat or shed before being sold to me. I didn't find out till afterwards and I hadn't bought from there since.

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Unfortunately if i dont find something soon then buying at a show will be my only choice. Temps in NY are quickly getting cold so shipping will soon not be an option. 😔

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Dang sorry to hear that. I would just try to look around to find the best breeders.

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It's not that hard to find reputable breeders selling guaranteed hets and standing by them. Doing just a tiny bit of homework as a buyer goes a long ways towards not losing out on valuable time growing up these animals.

I think it's also worth mentioning that reputation isn't always proportional to years in the hobby. There are a lot relatively new breeders who have just as much (if not more) to lose by having their hets not prove out as such.

Best of luck!

Thank you

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Who are some reputable breeders? Would it be better offline or from a show?

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Garrick Demeyer at Royal Constrictor Designs. Enough said. He is one of the most popular ones in the states and his customer service is phenomenal!


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Deborah Stewart from Stewart Reptiles is another very trusted seller. I personally have never purchased from her, but if she ever had anything I wanted I wouldn't hesitate. Her buyers speak volumes about her as well as her customer service. Dave Green is another great seller ! I have purchased a few animals from him always super healthy and fantastic feeders. I also purchased from Tony Bass at Unballievable pythons as well. Picked up a wicked pied male and albino female from him almost 3 years ago. I personally favor the small breeder. They always have outstanding customer service as well as quality animals. These people do not have huge collections. They have to select quality stock very very carefully, because they cannot house dozen of the same morphs due to space and feeding bills. Imo their selective eyes and extemely picky nature's means I'm in turn buying top of the line quality animals. I'm not a fan of big breeders just my personal opinion I like a more 1 on 1 approach. I won't waste your time, but in the same breath I do expect a little bit of it so I can make appropriate purchases based off my goals. These 3 breeders I mentioned have no issue going the extra mile to make sure your purchase will keep you happy for many years to come.

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Deborah Stewart from Stewart Reptiles is another very trusted seller. I personally have never purchased from her, but if she ever had anything I wanted I wouldn't hesitate. Her buyers speak volumes about her as well as her customer service. Dave Green is another great seller ! I have purchased a few animals from him always super healthy and fantastic feeders. I also purchased from Tony Bass at Unballievable pythons as well. Picked up a wicked pied male and albino female from him almost 3 years ago. I personally favor the small breeder. They always have outstanding customer service as well as quality animals. These people do not have huge collections. They have to select quality stock very very carefully, because they cannot house dozen of the same morphs due to space and feeding bills. Imo their selective eyes and extemely picky nature's means I'm in turn buying top of the line quality animals. I'm not a fan of big breeders just my personal opinion I like a more 1 on 1 approach. I won't waste your time, but in the same breath I do expect a little bit of it so I can make appropriate purchases based off my goals. These 3 breeders I mentioned have no issue going the extra mile to make sure your purchase will keep you happy for many years to come.

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You make good points, and while Garrick Demeyer is a HUGE SUPPLIER, I guarantee you if you call his company, HE will answer and whether you're looking for a normal or a 10,000 dollar snake, he will spend as much time on the phone with you as you desire. The guy genuinely cares about this hobby and he cares about each individual customer. The same can NOT be said about some of the "other" large suppliers..


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