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name this morph
Found this ad on CraigsList:
"I'm not even listing his Morph, because I get tired of the arguements from the so called 'professionals' in this area. He is 13 months old, I got him at two months old from Outback Reptiles in Florida. He is a captive hatch from a Wild caught BP. Mike and Ian at Outback are the biggest Ball Python importers in the world.He is absolutely beautiful, healthy, great eater of live rats (small).I'm moving and cannot take him, he is the last of a large collection we had.$150.00. If you know the Morph, you will know he is worth way more then I'm asking. I'm trying to help someone out with either an awesome pet, or a strong male breeder.
click Link below for 2 pics:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pet/5834407984.html
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Re: name this morph
With no history of breedings or even a hint his look is made with just one gene?
Normal - with granite flecking that may or may not pass down.
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It's a captive hatch and until proven different it is a normal, not all captive hatched import prove out to be anything regardless of whom imports them, most actually do not prove to be anything more than normal, it's a gamble people take when getting an import, the only way to find out is by breeding it, holding back some offsprings, pairing them back to him etc.
Until than it's worth $20 top because that is what normal go for if you want to take a gamble and pay $150 for something that may or may not prove to be anything it's up to you.
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If it's a morph it seems like it would be a dominant gene. How many single dominant gene morphs go for "way more" than $150?
And was the wild caught BP carrying eggs and this snake was hatched? Or was the WC bred? Can you prove out a morph from a wild caught BP from a single clutch? This whole ad seems like BS to get you to think you're getting some great morph for a bargain.
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Yeah I would like to know what gene they think it is......
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Deborah
... it's worth $20 top because that is what normal go for...
Median price for Normals already sold on MorphMarket = $45
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Macropodus
Median price for Normals already sold on MorphMarket = $45
Normal male are going $10/$15, $20 was actually generous, females $20/$25 as hatchlings, $50 for proven breeders.
Normal male for me it's free to good home 90% of the time or I wholesale.
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For you. Not for MorphMarket. It takes all of 3 minutes to verify.
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Originally Posted by Macropodus
For you. Not for MorphMarket. It takes all of 3 minutes to verify.
For me and 99% of people selling normal at shows or locally where most normal sell in general, why? Because, the chances of selling a $20 normal online with a $60 shipping fee is VERY slim, unless you find a buyer that has no clue on the market at all and is willing to pay $45 for a normal male and get it shipped. FYI you can get a pastel for $25/$50 a mojave, cinny, pin etc for $50/75
Normal are even sold as feeders that's how hard it is to move normal especially males. There is no demand hence the $10/$25 dollars price tag on an hatchling in the US and a $50 price tag for a proven female.
Knowing the market is kind of the things I have to do.
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"I'm not even listing his morph".... yeah, probably because he has no idea if it even is a morph-- and it most likely isn't. His critical view of the "professionals" is probably because they told him the exact same thing everyone here is telling you... that until that animal proves, it is nothing more than a normal. The man who wrote that ad is either very arrogant and truly believes he has something new without proof, or is blatantly trying to scam someone.
Now, if you think it will prove out and want to pay 150 dollars to find out, go ahead, that's your gamble. But it IS a gamble, don't him try to convince you otherwise.
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Macropodus
For you. Not for MorphMarket. It takes all of 3 minutes to verify.
Normal 1.0 $5 and 0.1 $20 here.
Most breeders less the out cheap for a reason. :rofl::rofl:
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Normal are even sold as feeders...
I am pretty curious about this though. People use normal ball pythons as feeders? What do they feed them to, other snakes? I know there are many species out there that primarily eat other snakes and that babies can be very hard to start otherwise... Do they feed them live? It just seems so.... strange, as most of us are used to feeding our snakes something, not feeding our snakes TO something LOL:rofl: Also makes me cringe a bit thinking about it as I love snakes... but I also suppose that makes me a bit hypocritical as I have no problem feeding live prey otherwise.
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There is mention of that on this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOY7eyRxv6A
I forget the exact minute mark but it's not too long of a video so enjoy :)
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
... Most breeders less the out cheap for a reason...
What's that mean? I don't get it.
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Trisnake
... if you think it will prove out and want to pay 150 dollars to find out, go ahead, that's your gamble. But it IS a gamble, don't him try to convince you otherwise.
Who's "you" and "your"? I'm not the least bit interested in the snake. I wanted opinions on what kind of morph it could possibly be. Nothing more.
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Macropodus
For you. Not for MorphMarket. It takes all of 3 minutes to verify.
It takes all of 3 minutes to verify what the seller had them listed for - not what they actually sold for.
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Eric Alan
It takes all of 3 minutes to verify what the seller had them listed for - not what they actually sold for.
Are you sure? Look again please: http://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptile...poch=1&sort=le
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Macropodus
Having both listed and sold my animals on MorphMarket: Yes - I'm sure. All I see is a bunch of animals marked as sold.
There is no requirement to edit/update the final price once you mark an animal as sold. The sold status doesn't even necessarily mean that they sold on MorphMarket. Heck - there isn't even a way to verify that an animal marked as sold has actually been sold.
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Re: name this morph
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Originally Posted by Macropodus
What's that mean? I don't get it.
"sell"
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