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  • 10-08-2016, 10:55 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Won't let me post a picture so the snake will be in My Images, thank you!
  • 10-08-2016, 11:22 PM
    dkatz4
    yes, that snake is hypo, now i'm going to attempt a gene breakdown - but someone please correct me if i am off here (but if i'm right, well, you know where the rep+ button is :D )
    i believe its also 100% Het albino
    if i'm not mistaken, sunglows are het hypo albinos (and if it is homozygous hypo, then its a super-sunglow), so your snake got one albino gene from dad, not enough to be visual, but also a hypo gene which is an incomplete dominant, so it is visual.
    Its a beauty at any rate, and a potential albino parent if you're into breeding and find another het albino, or albino to pair it with.
  • 10-08-2016, 11:25 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
  • 10-08-2016, 11:27 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    The 3rd and 5th photo are taken with the flash on and the last one is just the light from the bulb inside a dome on top of the enclosure!


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  • 10-08-2016, 11:33 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Thank you! I uploaded more photos, I'm in the process of learning the genetics behind these morphs. But thanks for your reply I hope it's HET ALBINO given the parents!
  • 10-09-2016, 12:21 AM
    chip07
    Yes its hypo het albino since one of the parents was a Sunglow. Though we can't tell you if it's a kahl or sharp albino gene. You will have to get that information from wherever you bought it from or experimenting with breeding in the future.
  • 10-09-2016, 04:05 AM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    I appreciate it
  • 10-09-2016, 04:10 AM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    How much are these worth?
  • 10-09-2016, 07:53 AM
    chip07
    If you do not know if it is het kahl or sharp it should be priced as if it's just a hypo. I do not want to offend and I'm just going to give my opinion here as if it was something I came across to buy. So to me it's not high quality. It isn't clean, the red isn't great, and doesn't have much pink through out. Her tail is decent though so you might be able to get $125-$150 maybe if you were to sell. High quaility hypos with known albino genetics can go around $300. The better the quality and genetics the higher the price.


    I paid $275 shipped for my hypo ph leopard male and $375 shipped for my possible super hypo jungle female.
  • 10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chip07 View Post
    If you do not know if it is het kahl or sharp it should be priced as if it's just a hypo. I do not want to offend and I'm just going to give my opinion here as if it was something I came across to buy. So to me it's not high quality. It isn't clean, the red isn't great, and doesn't have much pink through out. Her tail is decent though so you might be able to get $125-$150 maybe if you were to sell. High quaility hypos with known albino genetics can go around $300. The better the quality and genetics the higher the price.


    I paid $275 shipped for my hypo ph leopard male and $375 shipped for my possible super hypo jungle female.


    You're giving your honest opinion, I appreciate that no heart feelings. Thanks for the knowledge all the info I know from the breeder is what I've shared and I've seen the parents or at least the father and he's def a SunGlow. That's still not a bad price considering I got him for $40.


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  • 10-09-2016, 01:23 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    As he gets older will he brighten or darken I'm confused on some of the adults I've seen... But is there a general rule of thumb about their coloring when they become adults?


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  • 10-09-2016, 01:42 PM
    dkatz4
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yaboyyoungd1234567 View Post
    You're giving your honest opinion, I appreciate that no heart feelings. Thanks for the knowledge all the info I know from the breeder is what I've shared and I've seen the parents or at least the father and he's def a SunGlow. That's still not a bad price considering I got him for $40.


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    $40! It may not be a blue ribbon hypo, but I still think you made out like a bandit!
  • 10-09-2016, 02:28 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yaboyyoungd1234567 View Post
    As he gets older will he brighten or darken I'm confused on some of the adults I've seen... But is there a general rule of thumb about their coloring when they become adults?

    Generally with boas, darker. The greys ('baby greys') along the side will usually fade and then cream background color will turn tan or brown. Yellow is the last pigment to develop in boas and it comes in over the first few years turning them tan/brown.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chip07 View Post
    If you do not know if it is het kahl or sharp it should be priced as if it's just a hypo.

    99% of the time, if the strain isn't identified then that means it's kahl aka original strain. Sharps usually go for more and aren't quite as common still. In the past it was always default that if no strain was mentioned, it's kahl. If it's sharp, it's called out aka sharp albino aka sharp sunglow etc
    Perhaps it's changed a bit over the years and you are correct, it's always good to be cautious and get actual verifiable information from the seller.
  • 10-09-2016, 04:13 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    I got him so cheap because he wasn't expecting a litter from his female. Wasn't aware that she was gravid. So he just had a couple backs and sold the rest. Very cheap. Couldn't afford to feed them. That's why he's tiny. But thanks for the descriptive response and yeah defiantly a steal if he was fed properly but hopefully after feeding him every five days for a few months will get him up to weight. He was born May 22nd


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  • 10-09-2016, 07:50 PM
    dkatz4
    Boas are generally very hearty snakes, I'm sure he'll bounce back. But be careful not to go overboard trying to fatten him up – their metabolisms are totally different from pythons'. Just keep him on an appropriate diet and let him attain size naturally and healthfully.
  • 10-09-2016, 08:09 PM
    Gio
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dkatz4 View Post
    Boas are generally very hearty snakes, I'm sure he'll bounce back. But be careful not to go overboard trying to fatten him up – their metabolisms are totally different from pythons'. Just keep him on an appropriate diet and let him attain size naturally and healthfully.

    Very true.

    As Gus Rentfro (Boa God) used to say:

    It is almost impossible to underfeed a boa, but entirely too easy to overfeed one.

    They are masters of efficiency.

    I like the look of that snake. I never chime in on morph questions as I'm not interested in them, but I still admire some of the beauty they can display.

    I think you have a nice looking snake there.
  • 10-09-2016, 08:40 PM
    chip07
    $40 is definitely a deal you got there! He is definitely pretty but I think all of them are pretty even the darkest normals.

    The one person is right of course usually if they don't mention which one it's kahl but if the information can't be verified it's useless. Sharp seems just as common to me since I see it all the time when looking through classifieds. Plus, if it's someone that doesn't usually breed or is in a rush to get rid of them they might not think to mention which albino gene. Of course if you never plain to breed him or sell him it doesn't matter really!

    On the feeding I would just stick to once a week with an appropriate size feeder. He will easily gain weight on that schedule.
  • 10-10-2016, 02:42 AM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    You guys have been great DEEPLY appreciate the thought out responses. Also for the kind words of the good looking snake ha I can't wait till he gets to be the same size as my 1 1/2 year old normal female. This is my first morph so it's pretty exciting honestly. Truly happy I ever got into snakes 4 years ago! I'll update you guys as he starts lookin healthier (it's probably hard to see how small he is just via photos) THANKS again.


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  • 10-10-2016, 11:32 AM
    chip07
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yaboyyoungd1234567 View Post
    As he gets older will he brighten or darken I'm confused on some of the adults I've seen... But is there a general rule of thumb about their coloring when they become adults?


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    I just noticed this it depends entirely on the snake. Some hypos darken a lot others gett more red but a lot of them just seem to brown out with age. Hypos have a dark and light phase too.

    They aren't great photos but I think the difference came out well enough. The lighting is different between the photos but this is what my male looks like in the dark vs red/light phases.
    http://i.imgur.com/3VrOvC4.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/v6e8L4P.jpg

    And a few in his red phase or light phase. I do think he is going to be a dark adult most of the time.
    http://i.imgur.com/4wj0X4R.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/8GADhyi.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/hk7Q6su.jpg
  • 10-10-2016, 03:05 PM
    yaboyyoungd1234567
    Re: IS THIS A HYPO?! Father was a SunGlow & Mother was a normal Columbian Red Tail...
    Beautiful snake.......... My normal female does that though goes from dark to light phases. I thought she was going into shed every other minute lol before doing research. As the day goes on she gets brighter. But I notice durning the evening she gets lighter and darker in the morning I heard all red tails do that. But I defiantly see the difference almost like two different snakes. I love when my snake is light instead of dark you can really see the colors


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