anyone have any crazy breeding projects in mind?

since i now have a super specter female, as well as five superstripe females, i was kicking around the idea of working towards clown superstripes.

which means i need to find either a YB clown male and/or an ivory female. :confusd:

Crazy no long term yes but some sold fundations are already there

Hypo Super Enchi Clown

Hypo Super Enchi CG Clown

Hypo Leopard Lesser CG Clown

CG Leopard Pinstripe Clown

Hypo Super Enchi Lesser Clown

Hypo Super Enchi CG Clown and Hypo Super Enchi Lesser Clown would require sunglasses to view :O

Wow, can't even imagine what the super stripe clown would look like! Incredible I'm sure. Good luck with your project!

I'm actually planning on a project with the super stripe complex as well. I haven't actually picked up the pair I would need for it but it has been in my mind for quite a while... Vanilla Cream Super Stripes will hopefully be in my future once I purchase a female vanilla yellowbelly and a male fire specter. I'm still debating making it a trio by adding a disco yellowbelly female to the mix as well, for some crazy Disco Cream Super Stripes!

I love allelic complexes and to the best of my knowledge I don't think anyone has produced double allelic animals before. Should be interesting to see how they turn out :D

sounds good.

Clown superstripes would be awesome! I don't have anything crazy in mind, in fact this will be my first time breeding, but I'm in the market for a female to go with my Pastel Butter het Genetic Stripe. I've found a few nice Pastel Butter Genetic Stripes. Hoping for the possibility of a Super Butter, and of course a bunch of different Genetic Stripe combos. Super Pastel Stripe, Butter Genetic Stripes, etc.

Considering going recessive with the albino pied, candy pied, and killer pied projects. Codom projects of Super enchi and enchi pastel are also on the radar. My other recessive project will be cg pied and cg hypo pied.

Nothing crazy planned. I'll be pairing my mojave het lavender albino male to my lesser female. Plan to hold back any mojave or BEL females and raise them up to breed back to the male. Hoping to get a super mojave lavender albino one day.

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Nothing crazy planned. I'll be pairing my mojave het lavender albino male to my lesser female. Plan to hold back any mojave or BEL females and raise them up to breed back to the male. Hoping to get a super mojave lavender albino one day.

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lavender cherry bomb?

I'm working towards sunset clowns and ghi super red axanthic clowns
Tho a as clown sounds hott

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lavender cherry bomb?

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Yes. That's the goal :)

I guess nothing too majorly crazy although I currently have hopes of at least shooting for ghost/g-stripe next season and have produced enchi true ghost hets. Next season hoping to produce both BH clown and candied clown hets. Albino clown has also been initiated as has albino g-stripe. I am really looking to produce a nice pastel VPI axanthic male to pair with my super pastel g-stripe when she grows up as I lucked out on that this year when my pastel 50% het axanthic didn't prove, although I did get 5 nice pastels het out of the pairing. The pairing could prove interesting as both my visual axanthic girl and her pastel het half brother are also 50% het pied. These are all the short term plans; it will get more interesting in 2 or 3 years when I should have a double visual or two to play with.

I'll be introducing VPI Axanthics into my ghost stuff this season. The idea of True Ghost Pieds has crossed my mind a few times once I get to the True Ghost stage.

Dave

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I'm working towards sunset clowns and ghi super red axanthic clowns
Tho a as clown sounds hott

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sunset clowns FTW:bow::bow::bow:

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I'll be introducing VPI Axanthics into my ghost stuff this season. The idea of True Ghost Pieds has crossed my mind a few times once I get to the True Ghost stage.

Dave

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i had to look up true ghost. putting that in a pied combo would be sweet.

My first pairing might be my trick het pied x mystic potion pos pied. I was gonna get something for the trick girl but realized that the potion was perfect.

Trick het pied girl and for what i paid for her she better be 100% het pied. Your looking at my most expensive ball python.:O All of her spots remind me of the leopard gene. One easy pattern recognition are the P and q shown on the very top of the picture.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file..._19_35_pro.jpg

Mystic potion 66% pos pied. He wasn't eating for a while but finally started up again recently. I knew he would though.:gj: Wish he had more pattern but i like having something striped for variety sake.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file..._10_10_pro.jpg

I'm hopeful that trick is a good gene to work with pied stuff because of this pic which i was told is a trick pied. Based on the pattern i do believe this is a trick pied. Bazinga is trick x mojave i'm drooling over the possibility of bazinga pieds.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../v__5703_1.jpg
Notice how low white he or she is. That's great cause most gene's just get overpowered by pie bald and are usually high white. Don't get me wrong i like high white but there's only some much that can be done pattern wise when there high white.

Aaand i'm waiting for a breeder to get a type of 100% puzzle girl to shot for some puzzle stuff. Funny thing is if i do produce puzzle stuff i'm gonne have to get in to shipping snakes cause the price for them are probable gonna have to be high. Also please nobody think money is why i got in to the puzzle gene cause it's not.:gj:

Here's a quick pic of my super pastel 66% pos puzzle. Now cause of his colors and especially pattern i do believe puzzle is having a influence here and hopefully it's because it's a 100% het puzzle fingers crossed. First bic is a breeder pic.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../fotfcb5_1.jpg
Here he is in my hand and bit bigger. Color is bit different. First pic he's younger, better camera and daylight. He is the same bp btw notice the dot in back of his head.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file..._10_44_pro.jpg

Also because i don't think enough people see or even know about the puzzle gene.I figure i'll show some stuff off but note these are note mine ( i wish ) got these off of wobp.

Edited per TOS

Super pastel puzzle
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-super-pastel/

pewter puzzle
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pewter-puzzle/

bumble bee puzzle
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/buzz/

How can any one not like if not have some respect for puzzle. It changes color and patter and i think puzzle should be up there with clown, pied, albino and the other great recessive gene's in terms of popularity.

I plan on sharing with the community when ever i do breed something and plan on doing a update thread on my collection sometime btw. And that's about it hope this post wasn't to long.:D

Just preparing for my first clutch ever next spring! For just BELs and butters, and hopefully I hit good odds. Nothing crazy.. This female has consistent 7 egg clutches.

Otherwise, waiting for my sterling and super pastel calico congo girls to grow up in a couple years, and planning on mixing them with a disco fire boy.

that super pastel puzzle is hot :O

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Also because i don't think enough people see or even know about the puzzle gene.

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I do not think it is that they do not know about it. It is cost versus what the gene can do and puzzles have only been around for a bit so they tend to be on the pricey side. Also you have to consider that not everyone likes the same stuff. Me I think puzzles are hot! But I just invested in a100% het sunset and that will take years of my breeding plans to see fruition of that project. So I will have little time for another. Many are in that boat.

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I'll be introducing VPI Axanthics into my ghost stuff this season. The idea of True Ghost Pieds has crossed my mind a few times once I get to the True Ghost stage.

Dave

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I like the way you think........ I'm running a little backwards from you though as I am working on the Snows next year will start working toward Sunglows.
Have pied an clown to work in at some point as well. ;)

Candy Monsoon :)

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Candy Monsoon :)

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monsoon is the king of all dinkers gene, correct?

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I do not think it is that they do not know about it. It is cost versus what the gene can do and puzzles have only been around for a bit so they tend to be on the pricey side. Also you have to consider that not everyone likes the same stuff. Me I think puzzles are hot! But I just invested in a100% het sunset and that will take years of my breeding plans to see fruition of that project. So I will have little time for another. Many are in that boat.

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Well at least you think puzzle is hot that's good enough for me. I was aware of the cost and rarity of puzzle stuff just forgot to mention it but didn't think about how people are doing their own stuff an all. Also good luck on your sunset stuff. If i have the room and am still in this hobby in the future sunset is a gene i hope to have eventually.

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monsoon is the king of all dinkers gene, correct?

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Yes, now that he's proven I figured I'd name the morph.

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Yes, now that he's proven I figured I'd name the morph.

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any time frame on when you might have some monsoons for sale (not that they would be in my budget anyway)?


and monsoon clowns would be amazing.

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any time frame on when you might have some monsoons for sale (not that they would be in my budget anyway)?


and monsoon clowns would be amazing.

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I should have some Monsoons and Hets available in 2017

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I should have some Monsoons and Hets available in 2017

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looks like i need to ramp up breeding and selling snakes so i can afford it :rolleye2:

Well I just picked up a male albino pied and I'm thinking of making some 'Easter Eggs'. What I mean by that is I could for example cross it with a pinstripe VPI axanthic. Then I would hold back the 'Easter Eggs' which would be pinstripe x het albino x het pied x het VPI axanthic (triple het). From those Easter eggs I'd get over 80 different possibilities (12 different visuals) including the following with possible hets.

Pied
Albino Pied
VPI Axanthic Pied
Pinstripe Pied
Albino Pinstripe
Albino Axanthic (Snow)
Pinstripe
Axanthic
Albino
Normal
Albino Axanthic Pied (SNOW PIE!)
Pinstripe Albino Axanthic Pied (PIN SNOW PIE!)

Even from the normal looking babies if you cross them you'd get a wide array of all different kind of really cool snakes, it would be like an 'Easter Egg' normal ball python that could crank out some really cool high end babies when crossed with a similar 'Easter egg'! I was also thinking about doing something similar with a super gene, such as a super pastel. All the babies would look like a regular pastel but you'd also make super pastels + pastels in the mix. (pastel pieds, super pastel pieds). The only problem is that you would lose the variability, everything would end up as pastel something...

Percent	Fraction	Genes
0.39%	1/256	Normal (Wild Type, Classic)
0.78%	1/128	Het Piebald
0.78%	1/128	Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Het Albino
0.39%	1/256	Axanthic - VPI Line
0.39%	1/256	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino)
0.39%	1/256	Pinstripe (pin)
0.78%	1/128	Pinstripe (pin)
0.39%	1/256	Piebald (pied)
1.56%	Jan-64	Double Het Albino Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Double Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line
1.56%	Jan-64	Double Het Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
0.78%	1/128	Pinstripe (pin) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Het Piebald
0.78%	1/128	Piebald (pied) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Piebald (pied) Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Pinstripe (pin) Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Pinstripe (pin) Het Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Pinstripe (pin) Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Het Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Pinstripe (pin) Het Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Pinstripe (pin) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Het Axanthic - VPI Line
3.13%	Jan-32	Triple Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
0.39%	1/256	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied)
0.39%	1/256	Albino Pinstripe
0.39%	1/256	Vpi Snow
0.39%	1/256	Axanthic Piebald - Vpi Line
0.39%	1/256	Albino Pied
0.39%	1/256	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin)
0.78%	1/128	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied)
0.78%	1/128	Albino Pinstripe
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin)
1.56%	Jan-64	Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line
1.56%	Jan-64	Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Albino Piebald
3.13%	Jan-32	Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
3.13%	Jan-32	Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line
3.13%	Jan-32	Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Albino Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Double Het Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Axanthic - VPI Line Double Het Albino Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Piebald (pied) Double Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Albino Pinstripe Het Axanthic - VPI Line
1.56%	Jan-64	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied) Het Albino
1.56%	Jan-64	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Albino Pinstripe Het Piebald
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied) Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Vpi Snow Het Piebald
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Het Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Albino Pinstripe Het Axanthic - VPI Line
1.56%	Jan-64	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Het Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied) Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic Piebald - Vpi Line Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Albino Pied Het Axanthic - VPI Line
1.56%	Jan-64	Albino Pinstripe Het Piebald
3.13%	Jan-32	Pinstripe (pin) Triple Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
6.25%	16-Jan	Pinstripe (pin) Triple Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
0.39%	1/256	Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald (pied) Pinstripe (pin)
0.39%	1/256	Albino Pinstripe Pied
0.78%	1/128	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin)
0.39%	1/256	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin)
0.78%	1/128	Albino Pinstripe Pied
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald (pied) Pinstripe (pin)
0.39%	1/256	Albino Axanthic Piebald - VPI Line (VPI Snow Pied)
3.13%	Jan-32	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied) Double Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line
3.13%	Jan-32	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Albino Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Albino Pinstripe Double Het Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Pied Pin (Pin Pied, Pinstripe Pied) Double Het Albino Axanthic - VPI Line
3.13%	Jan-32	Albino Pinstripe Double Het Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Double Het Albino Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Albino Pinstripe Pied Het Axanthic - VPI Line
0.78%	1/128	Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald (pied) Pinstripe (pin) Het Albino
0.78%	1/128	Albino Pinstripe Pied Het Axanthic - VPI Line
1.56%	Jan-64	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Het Piebald
0.78%	1/128	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Axanthic - VPI Line Pinstripe (pin) Het Piebald
1.56%	Jan-64	Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald (pied) Pinstripe (pin) Het Albino
0.39%	1/256	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald (pied) Pinstripe (pin)
0.78%	1/128	Albino (Amelanistic, Tyrosinase (T-) Albino) Axanthic - VPI Line Piebald (pied) Pinstripe (pin)

I'm currently working on a few projects,

Current:
-Dreamsicle
Paired my DH Lavender albino pied together and have seen two locks in two months

-Banana Pieds
Paired my banana het pied with my two pied females, have also seen two locks

Future
Clown project: Will pair my two clown females next year with my CG Leopard Enchi Spider

Crazy future plans
-Hopefully I end up with a CG Leopord enchi spider clown to breed to a dreamsicle for some insane triple hets.
-Breed a banana pied to a cinnamon enchi het pied.

well, this isn't crazy, but could net me another world's first

fire yoda x savannah yoda

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8jlgjpkg.jpg