What morph is this? Pics

So for those of you who saw my thread about Pet Smart, I went back today and took a look at what they had. The banana I was discussing in that thread turns out to be a female, for $350. I'd be lying if I said that after seeing her again today I wasn't slightly toying with the idea. She seems a tad light to me (I edited the photo to better reflect her colors in person so that's pretty accurate), so I'm wondering if there is more going on with her genes than they say, but I haven't met a lot of bananas. Maybe she's just a light individual.

The cages at this location are very clean and well kept and the animals are very clean and healthy. They also had another snake which I was curious as to what morph it is. I can't quite place it, and was just curious if anyone could tell me.

Banana for kicks:
http://i.imgur.com/iBnu7LK.jpg

Mystery:
http://i.imgur.com/q4xnTvq.jpg

Looks like some type of Pastel to me

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Originally Posted by Soord

Looks like some type of Pastel to me

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Could also be a butter pastel

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Also go in and offer a lower price to petsmart? Haggling sometimes works and if you get a healthy female banana for lower than 300 it could be a steal. Make sure it is actually a female, doesn't wheeze, and seems healthy. I'm not sure they get a lot of people trying to buy expensive snakes so it could work. Petsmart is not a particularly reputable place but it could be a diamond in the rough

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Originally Posted by Soord

Could also be a butter pastel

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I thought maybe some sort of pastel when I looked at it, but it doesn't look quite like any of the examples I've seen.

Also, here's another pic of the banana. What's interesting to me is that her patterning and blushing doesn't seem...exactly like they should? Look at the alien heads.

https://imgur.com/N54yK3N

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Originally Posted by PeanutButler

I thought maybe some sort of pastel when I looked at it, but it doesn't look quite like any of the examples I've seen.

Also, here's another pic of the banana. What's interesting to me is that her patterning and blushing doesn't seem...exactly like they should? Look at the alien heads.

https://imgur.com/N54yK3N

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For so e reason I can't see the pic.

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I'll link it instead:

https://imgur.com/N54yK3N

I just picked up a banana from a breeder and his sides don't look anything like that, and neither do any photos I see online? He also doesn't have blushing like that, also not something I'm seeing online. Maybe she's just a really weird banana.

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Originally Posted by PeanutButler

So for those of you who saw my thread about Pet Smart, I went back today and took a look at what they had. The banana I was discussing in that thread turns out to be a female, for $350. I'd be lying if I said that after seeing her again today I wasn't slightly toying with the idea. She seems a tad light to me (I edited the photo to better reflect her colors in person so that's pretty accurate), so I'm wondering if there is more going on with her genes than they say, but I haven't met a lot of bananas. Maybe she's just a light individual.

The cages at this location are very clean and well kept and the animals are very clean and healthy. They also had another snake which I was curious as to what morph it is. I can't quite place it, and was just curious if anyone could tell me.

Banana for kicks:
http://i.imgur.com/iBnu7LK.jpg

Mystery:
http://i.imgur.com/q4xnTvq.jpg

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To me it looks kinda like this one http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...ba24ad6098.jpg or this http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...fb12a9f895.jpg

Obviously there are some differences but the faded brown on top and nd yellowish spots make it seem like that to me. Could also be a regular Pastel that is a bit weird. There are tons of pastels and they can be pretty varied I've found

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Also looks like this one alrighthttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...fe4519b3f7.jpg

I don't think the pattern is yellow enough to be a butter honestly

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That last one definitely looks like it!

I'm really wondering about that girl, now. The results for Banana Mojave kind of look like her, but as I said. Maybe she's just a very weird example of a normal banana.

Could be a pastel banana

It looks like Banana Mojave the other one looks like a firefly or a vanilla or disco pastel.

Looks like a low quality super pastel to me. The banana does look like there is mojave mixed in but there is something else disrupting the pattern. Maybe het for pied.

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Originally Posted by PeanutButler

I just picked up a banana from a breeder and his sides don't look anything like that, and neither do any photos I see online? He also doesn't have blushing like that, also not something I'm seeing online. Maybe she's just a really weird banana.

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Yeah I've been browsing an embarrassingly long time trying to find one that looks like her and I couldn't.

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Looks like a low quality super pastel to me. The banana does look like there is mojave mixed in but there is something else disrupting the pattern. Maybe het for pied.

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I was thinking a pied het too. That pattern as it gets away from the head is strange

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Looks like a low quality super pastel to me. The banana does look like there is mojave mixed in but there is something else disrupting the pattern. Maybe het for pied.

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What are you seeing that makes you speculate out of all the things out there that it's het pied based on the pattern?

I'm thinking it's a pastel yellowbelly. I was thinking maybe it had enchi or fire in it but I don't think it has the right pattern for an enchi or the right color for a fire

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

What are you seeing that makes you speculate out of all the things out there that it's het pied based on the pattern?

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I mean in the second pic the pattern stays somewhat consistent until 2/3rds of the way down the snake

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I don't even like bananas and i'd buy it if it is female. Nice looking animal. I don't have a problem buying one from a chain store if they take good care of their stuff. "Saving" one from a place that doesn't is what I won't do.

Any ideas on that super light dorsal stripe on the banana? Not a mojave or banana trait?

I mean, as I said I'd lie if I wasn't considering it. Especially since I want to pick up a female banana to put with my paradox boy at some point anyway, but I'm just not totally sure if the fairness of her coloring is due to genetics or quality.

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Originally Posted by PeanutButler

Any ideas on that super light dorsal stripe on the banana? Not a mojave or banana trait?

I mean, as I said I'd lie if I wasn't considering it. Especially since I want to pick up a female banana to put with my paradox boy at some point anyway, but I'm just not totally sure if the fairness of her coloring is due to genetics or quality.

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maybe it's a Banana Mojo Hypo. i've seen Hypo's with whitish dorsals and that would explain the light colors and blushing.

buy it and prove it out! :gj:

At $350 since it's a Banana Mojave and a female you should jump on it, my local petsmart has a champagne banana listed as banana for $350.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

At $350 since it's a Banana Mojave and a female you should jump on it, my local petsmart has a champagne banana listed as banana for $350.

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I think it is time to do some bargain shopping.

The other snake looks a lot like my POG.

Dave

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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

I think it is time to do some bargain shopping.

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What do you mean?

Oh man, I am so conflicted. I just don't want to buy a low quality animal thinking that it's because of genes you know?

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Originally Posted by PeanutButler

What do you mean?

Oh man, I am so conflicted. I just don't want to buy a low quality animal thinking that it's because of genes you know?

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It looks to me that someone has supplied a chain store with some good stock and they don't know what they have so I am going to go shopping and see if my locals have anything I cannot live without.

So, I am saying, with the opinions you have gotten on that banana and if you have the cash it looks like a really good deal. I really doubt you will know with 100% certainty what it is though.

Well, so I actually messaged Justin Kobylka and asked him what he thought. He suggested that it looked kind of like a banana pewter, and so I looked into it. Here is an example of that combo that I found online and if it isn't the closest I've seen then I don't know what is.
Which also explains the paleness of color, and also the light dorsal stripe. In any case, I think I'm going to likely follow the advice from this thread and pick her up before someone else does. $350 for a possibly three gene female banana? Yes please.

Good lord in the UK, you can't find a banana female single gene for under £1500 ish ($2191) and upwards dependant on breeder. That one you see is the equivalent of £240, I would be buy in it if I were there lokl xx

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Originally Posted by embrit345

Good lord in the UK, you can't find a banana female single gene for under £1500 ish ($2191) and upwards dependant on breeder. That one you see is the equivalent of £240, I would be buy in it if I were there lokl xx

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Whoa! You know, some breeders from the USA ship internationally, that would be a way that you could find one for much less than the UK price if you really wanted one.

Males are around £200 for single gene banana. Females are like gold dust lol xx


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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

What are you seeing that makes you speculate out of all the things out there that it's het pied based on the pattern?

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Well, from the laterals , which is mostly visible, is the misalignment or variable alignment of the alien heads. Can't really appreciate the whole animal due to the angle of the picture. The neck seems to have a dorsal striping however short. Starting behind the head. Just seems to be something else going on. Belly, obviously we can't see that. Amazing animal either way.

@ Freakiefrog: Hey man, i didn't see the pic shown in post #7 of the thread which actually shows mostly the whole animal. My assessment of what's there still stands though. I feel like there is a disruption in the patterning and felt the pied gene could be the reason. Purely a shot off the hip. Lol. :)