Price for Bananas all over the place?

So on another thread someone mentioned to me that the going rate for bananas these days is $200-250. However I'm noticing that a lot of good reputable breeders (examples can be found on morphmarket) are listing theirs at up to $500-600+ for juveniles. Just curious as to why this would be if it's so much higher than the baseline?

They are probably females. Since most bananas are male makers the females are going for $500+.

Are they just plain Bananas or multi gene/hets?

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

They are probably females. Since most bananas are male makers the females are going for $500+.

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True, I always forget about this with the weird banana gene

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Originally Posted by Soord

True, I always forget about this with the weird banana gene

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I should mention I don't think the snake has to be female to be a female maker. Correct me if I'm wrong

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Originally Posted by Soord

I should mention I don't think the snake has to be female to be a female maker. Correct me if I'm wrong

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Lots of people over complicate it. To summarize...

Female bananas produce normal sex ratios.

A male banana can be a male maker or a female maker depending on how they were produced. A male from a male banana parent will be a male maker. A male from a female banana parent will be a female maker.

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I should mention I don't think the snake has to be female to be a female maker. Correct me if I'm wrong

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Well, it takes a female and a male... so..... not sure what you're saying... lol... I believe it comes down to the male. Some male's only produce males, while others will produce females.



Back to the original topic, I have always seen that hets, if not 100% het, will sell for pretty close to the normal price. Maybe a tad higher, but not much since there isn't that "guarantee" that the gene is present. I have recently seen some banana het pieds for well over $500. I guess if they'd prove out, it might be worth it, but that's a risk.

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Originally Posted by LittleTreeGuy

Well, it takes a female and a male... so..... not sure what you're saying... lol... I believe it comes down to the male. Some male's only produce males, while others will produce females.



Back to the original topic, I have always seen that hets, if not 100% het, will sell for pretty close to the normal price. Maybe a tad higher, but not much since there isn't that "guarantee" that the gene is present. I have recently seen some banana het pieds for well over $500. I guess if they'd prove out, it might be worth it, but that's a risk.

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I meant to quote Dave on that who mentioned that they are probably females. I didn't think they were females but rather female makers

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Originally Posted by Soord

I meant to quote Dave on that who mentioned that they are probably females. I didn't think they were females but rather female makers

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I didn't go to morph market but female makers would be more expensive as well. I didn't sell any last year but the year before they were going for approx. 3x the price of a male maker

These are really good points. I was wondering if male vs female had something to do with it, I kind of figured it would. I would guess that female maker males would go for a pretty good price too though, since they have the potential to throw a clutch of all female bananas?

Eta: someone beat me to it!

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Originally Posted by PeanutButler

These are really good points. I was wondering if male vs female had something to do with it, I kind of figured it would. I would guess that female maker males would go for a pretty good price too though, since they have the potential to throw a clutch of all female bananas?

Eta: someone beat me to it!

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True. I guess both females or female makers would fetch a hefty price. Females because they can make female makers, and female makers because they have the potential to make multiple female bananas.

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So... just to see if I'm understanding this.

If a male maker Banana did sire a female (From what I understand, that is entirely possible), then the female would be a male maker, since she was the product of a male banana. But those male offspring would be female makers, since the mother was banana. Only if you got the random female from her would you have a female-maker female?

If my understanding above is correct, I would imagine that a single-gene male-maker male would be at the lowest end of the price bracket, and a multi-gene female-maker female would be at the highest end, with the rest spread out between.

I think that my desire for a female banana may be along time being fulfilled.

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Originally Posted by Caspian

So... just to see if I'm understanding this.

If a male maker Banana did sire a female (From what I understand, that is entirely possible), then the female would be a male maker, since she was the product of a male banana. But those male offspring would be female makers, since the mother was banana. Only if you got the random female from her would you have a female-maker female?

If my understanding above is correct, I would imagine that a single-gene male-maker male would be at the lowest end of the price bracket, and a multi-gene female-maker female would be at the highest end, with the rest spread out between.

I think that my desire for a female banana may be along time being fulfilled.

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That's incorrect. Female bananas regardless of their parents seem to produce normal sex ratios. It's only the males that can be male makers or female makers.

From my understanding, I'm pretty sure that females throw equal odds no matter what. The females would need to come from either a female maker or a male maker (at crazy low odds) either way right? If it worked that way it would be the same as the males and no females would throw even odds at all.

Eta: someone beat me to it again.

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

That's incorrect. Female bananas regardless of their parents seem to produce normal sex ratios. It's only the males that can be male makers or female makers.

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Ah! Thank you - I had seen an advertisement somewhere for a female-maker female, so I assumed that was a thing. Thank you for the clarification.

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If a male maker Banana did sire a female (From what I understand, that is entirely possible)

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Since everyone has covered everything else I'll just talk about this part. It is possible, just unlikely. I forget who did the video but they were talking about making super bananas and said that they've seen like a 1 in 10 chance that the male pops out a baby that's opposite of what he's supposed to make. The guy is a big breeder (the guy from NERD I think) so I trust what he says, but from looking at clutches posted online it seems like it might be lower odds than that even.