BRB - Need help!

Hey guys, I was thinking of adopting this 2014 male BRB.

Again, hes a 2014, about 3 feet long. He's 171 grams.
He feeds on 2 mouse hoppers a week.

To me, this seems... extremely small? The breeder told me he has a sensitive stomach that is a characteristic of a certain hypo line. The male he is selling is het hypo.

I can't find ANY info on this... is it fishy? Is it true? If it is true, could you guys fill me in on exactly what's going on and why it happens?

Thanks!

I have never heard of any line of hypo BRB's having a sensitive stomach.

If you are on Facebook ask in the Brazilian Rainbow Boas group as there are several people working with hypos in it.

My BRB female (non hypo) produced a litter in 2014, and the two holdbacks I have are on a small rat every two weeks now.

Just MHO but... if this is a real problem with the gene then I would not purchase this animal as a breeder.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

I have never heard of any line of hypo BRB's having a sensitive stomach.

If you are on Facebook ask in the Brazilian Rainbow Boas group as there are several people working with hypos in it.

My BRB female (non hypo) produced a litter in 2014, and the two holdbacks I have are on a small rat every two weeks now.

Just MHO but... if this is a real problem with the gene then I would not purchase this animal as a breeder.

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I'm not planning to breed them at all, just looking for a good pet. :)

I can't ask the group because the seller is in it LOL. I don't want him to see me questioning it especially since hes a "bigger" breeder name.

I appreciate your input though. I figured if it was an issue I could find info online, but...nothing came up.

Ive never heard that either. Sounds strange.

So what did the breeder say you needed to do? Keep serving super small meals to a big snake? My BRB would flip out if he was getting undersized meals. He is a character.

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Originally Posted by KMG

Ive never heard that either. Sounds strange.

So what did the breeder say you needed to do? Keep serving super small meals to a big snake?

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He's little. He said he was going to offer a mouse wean, I think, and see if he takes it.

Just... look at this guy.
http://i.imgur.com/VU4RtRA.jpg

Lots of regurge in his history too.

Maybe you should look for one that isn't het hypo. Regardless of whether it is truly characteristic of the hypo line wouldn't it be better for you if you don't plan on breeding it to buy as healthy of a snake as you can? I know I wouldn't want to risk it.

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Originally Posted by kxr

Maybe you should look for one that isn't het hypo. Regardless of whether it is truly characteristic of the hypo line wouldn't it be better for you if you don't plan on breeding it to buy as healthy of a snake as you can? I know I wouldn't want to risk it.

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Agreed. I didnt know he was het hypo at first, as hes a normal. I was looking for an older/larger BRB and he said he had 2014's so we went from there. But they're smaller than they ought to be.

I was just super curious whether this was true or not. I've heard of morphs causing issues, but not any that affect digestive tract/prey size/etc.

Personally I would not want to take on a regurg prone snake. I lost a GTP that gave me those kinds of issues. It was stressful for the both of us and didn't end well.

Get you a nice normal BRB and will be much happier in the long run.

I love my BRB. He is always very curious and loves to watch me as I move around the snake room. Im sure he is looking for a rat in my pocket but he for sure has the most personality of all my snakes.

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Originally Posted by KMG

Personally I would not want to take on a regurg prone snake. I lost a GTP that gave me those kinds of issues. It was stressful for the both of us and didn't end well.

Get you a nice normal BRB and will be much happier in the long run.

I love my BRB. He is always very curious and loves to watch me as I move around the snake room. Im sure he is looking for a rat in my pocket but he for sure has the most personality of all my snakes.

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Yeah, I appreciate it. I thought it would be cool to take him on as a pet, but that was before I knew WHAT he was eating and saw his records. At first it was just that he takes smaller prey than usual because he has a sensitive stomach. Then I asked what he ate, and it's mouse hoppers... He's getting maybe 12 grams of food a week. Just isn't right for his age. If it was a size down from normal, it wouldn't be a big deal. Then I saw all the regurges on his records... I assumed he regurged if he was fed prey that was too big, but I saw he has regurged several hoppers as well.

I can't find any information about hypo issues. I've exhausted all the google terms I could think of. I don't think this breeder is trying to pull one over on me, I don't get that vibe... but I think he has been misinformed by somebody else. If this was a known issue I feel like I could find evidence of it online but I just can't. He's a well known BRB breeder too, so I don't think he's trying to play games. He offered me other animals, this male just had my interest because he'd be a pet only and I really don't like the idea of somebody trying to breed him.

I think I'll look elsewhere, but if this is a true issue I am interested in learning about it, if anyone else has any input!

Yup I wouldn't take on a snake that has regorge problems... my BRB is around 130 grams and is a 2015 baby so that one is definitely very small for its age.

I personally wouldn't do it, the breeder I got my little guy from breeds hypos too and none of his have that issue...


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Originally Posted by Prahanien

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........... The breeder told me he has a sensitive stomach that is a characteristic of a certain hypo line. ....,,,,,,,

Thanks!

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That would make sense, since he is breeding THAT particular line. If his original stock had/has this problem and it is passed down, then YES, it a characteristic of a certain line, HIS line. And maybe a problem with the line that his original stock came from as well?

So I agree, that he is being honest and up front.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

That would make sense, since he is breeding THAT particular line. If his original stock had/has this problem and it is passed down, then YES, it a characteristic of a certain line, HIS line. And maybe a problem with the line that his original stock came from as well?

So I agree, that he is being honest and up front.

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Here's what he said so I don't miss anything, in case you find it interesting:

"He has not seen a vet, but that is because his stomach issues are a known factor for hypo lines. Certain hypos and hets just seem to have regurg issues if fed larger meals. He is otherwise healthy and interactive."
"Only some of the older hypo lines have the issue. The newer models have (mostly) bred it out. I have a classic old-line hypo male, but curiously he never regurgs. One or two of his kids do though. Go figure!"

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Originally Posted by Prahanien

Here's what he said so I don't miss anything, in case you find it interesting:

"He has not seen a vet, but that is because his stomach issues are a known factor for hypo lines. Certain hypos and hets just seem to have regurg issues if fed larger meals. He is otherwise healthy and interactive."
"Only some of the older hypo lines have the issue. The newer models have (mostly) bred it out. I have a classic old-line hypo male, but curiously he never regurgs. One or two of his kids do though. Go figure!"

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Thank you, yes I do find it interesting.

Those statements make me wonder if his male is just a carrier for that issue, whether gene related or otherwise. :confusd:

Sounds to me that it would best to stop producing his line or cull to let that issue eventually die out. While not cost effective, his snakes do affect the community since the "bad" offspring are dispersed about.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Thank you, yes I do find it interesting.

Those statements make me wonder if his male is just a carrier for that issue, whether gene related or otherwise. :confusd:

Sounds to me that it would best to stop producing his line or cull to let that issue eventually die out. While not cost effective, his snakes do affect the community since the "bad" offspring are dispersed about.

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Agreed. Since not all hypos are affected, it's better off for the integrity of the animals that he gets hypos without this problem. It is sure perplexing however!

Just bought a different BRB. October 15 baby. From the sounds of it though there won't really be much weight difference. The one I bought was over $100 cheaper anyway, a normal, problem-free and pretty. My friend has an October baby too and hers weighs over 100g. Can't justify the het hypo male in this case, honestly. Hope he does find a good home however. I might have taken him so I knew he'd be well cared for if this wasn't my first BRB. I figure I should learn to get a BRB thriving before I take a sick one. Still might've done it if he was bigger and not taking /mouse hoppers/ at 2 years old and regurging often. :/ I want wants best for him and without me dealing with BRBs previously I don't feel like I'd be his best home.

http://i.imgur.com/QnYrc7v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/64TrTur.jpg

Honestly, his lighter colored eyes sold me. I imagine he'll brown out but he's a pet.... once I have their care down I'll feel better shelling out for a high red or something ;)

Ok, I take back the brown comment after seeing him on my true color monitor. Holy crap!

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...63818793_o.jpg

Yup BRB don't brown out like BP. They only get better with age. They tend to get much redder/oranger as they get older to and that looks like a pretty nice one so you will have a lot to look forward to!

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Yup BRB don't brown out like BP. They only get better with age. They tend to get much redder/oranger as they get older to and that looks like a pretty nice one so you will have a lot to look forward to!

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Huh, I was told they DO brown out. Now I'm more excited!

Well don't take my word for it lol. But all the adults I've seen look WAY better than the babies and the one I have gets better with every shed so it sure seems like it.

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Originally Posted by Prahanien

Huh, I was told they DO brown out. Now I'm more excited!

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Some do, some don't. I have a WC import that is so dark his head looks almost jet black.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Some do, some don't. I have a WC import that is so dark his head looks almost jet black.

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Can I see a pic? That sounds beautiful!

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Originally Posted by Prahanien

Can I see a pic? That sounds beautiful!

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http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf4896d78.jpg

Congrats on your beautiful boy Prahanien. :)

Bcr, that is an amazing looking BRB!

Thanks! Unfortunately I can't get him right away - waiting til the remodel is finished. I don't wanna bring a new baby into chaos and loud noises.

Bcr, OMG!!! What a gorgeous animal!!