Chlorhexadine gluconate vs novalsan?

For disinfecting and safest to use around bps?

They are both the same stuff. Just Novalsan is the "brand" name per say and more expensive. Regardless, buy in concentrate and not premix as it will be cheaper that way and you mix up your own strengths. You can also check out F10SC. I used to use Chlorhexadine for everything but I have switched to F10SC. I just like the smell of it better. Both are also just disinfectants, they arem't cleaners like a soap.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

They are both the same stuff. Just Novalsan is the "brand" name per say and more expensive. Regardless, buy in concentrate and not premix as it will be cheaper that way and you mix up your own strengths. You can also check out F10SC. I used to use Chlorhexadine for everything but I have switched to F10SC. I just like the smell of it better. Both are also just disinfectants, they arem't cleaners like a soap.

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How safe is f10sc?

Can a disinfectant be used alone or do you also need a cleaner?

Can you use the disinfectant every cleaning week or should you use it every other week?

F10SC is safe as Chlorhexadine. I use both products on everything in the cage including waterbowls. I also have used it in a more diluted form on a wet paper towel to wipe down my snakes combined with a bath when they decide to body paint the cage with poop.

I use F10SC to spot clean poop and also I spray down the cages once a month when I do full cage cleanings. It works fine. I only really use dish soap on my water bowls. Like once a year i'll strip down my cages and take them outside and hose them off with dish soap but normally just use F10SC disinfectant.

You can use it every week if you want or even every day. I usually will rinse with my diluted spray bottle of F10SC after each animal. I used to do the same with Chlorhexadine.

Same stuff a nice low level disinfectant when you don't need the Big Guns.

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When you clean bowls with f10sc or chlorhexadine does it have to be rinsed after or is it ok if there are traces in the water?

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Originally Posted by highqualityballz

When you clean bowls with f10sc or chlorhexadine does it have to be rinsed after or is it ok if there are traces in the water?

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I'm sure its fine as Chlorhexadine can be used as mouth rinse for humans and animals in diluted form and F10SC can be used in nebulizers for RI. With that said though, I generally try and rinse the bowls well. I usually will do a few full flushes with the hottest tap water out of the sink and then a couple cold rinses too and then I fill the dish. Now I do change my snakes waters' daily so I just F10SC their bowls once a week.

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Originally Posted by Lady mkrj58

Same stuff a nice low level disinfectant when you don't need the Big Guns.

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Actually Chlorhexadine and F10SC will kill pretty much all reptile "germs" except crypto. For that you need either ammonia or hydrogen peroxide.

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Big Guns.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Actually Chlorhexadine and F10SC will kill pretty much all reptile "germs" except crypto. For that you need either ammonia or hydrogen peroxide.

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Can hydrogen peroxide be mixed with f10sc or chlorhexadine for crypto?

I wouldn't but crypto isn't really something you need to worry about unless you are getting a used cage or a new animal that needs to be quarantined. Then just watch for really smelly runny poop in a quarantined animal. In the case of a used cage that you have no idea about the previous occupant, then I would strip the cage down if it can be done and take it outside and clean it thoroughly with ammonia and water, rinse it very well and them let it air dry for a few days.

I have 1 more question. I read that diluted chlorhexadine does not last very long and becomes ineffective when its diluted for awhile. Is this the same case for f10sc or will this stay effective when diluted and not used for awhile?

Chlorhex is great because of its residual effect (aka it persists on surfaces and has longer-term antibacterial action). Personally tho, I tend to associate Chlorhex more with use in a concentrated form as a topical antibacterial or a surgical sterilizing agent (Veterinary Clinic Uses). We didn't generally use Chlorhex to clean surfaces like exam tables and Kennels.

I'd go for the F10 or a Quaternary Ammonium Compound (Quats). They're more geared towards cleaning surfaces

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Originally Posted by highqualityballz

I have 1 more question. I read that diluted chlorhexadine does not last very long and becomes ineffective when its diluted for awhile. Is this the same case for f10sc or will this stay effective when diluted and not used for awhile?

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I too have heard the same about Chlorhexadine. I used to just mix enough in a spray bottle which lasted me about a week. As for F10SC, I haven't heard anything of it breaking down once mixed but unless you are using distilled water, I would probably just do what I do and mix a single spray bottle worth per week. I just buy the smallest bottle(3.4oz) and it lasts me like 6 months.