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ghost morphs
so I might be getting a ghost ball python soon and will eventually want to breed him but I'm not really sure what I would want to pair him with. so what are you guys pairing your ghost balls to?
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Anything ghost or het ghost.
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Re: ghost morphs
Ghost is one of those genes that looks good on just about anything, ofcourse that is debatable, but most people will agree. It is a recessive color effecting morph, so pretty much just pick a gene that you like the pattern of, just remember ghost is recessive, so if you get/have a visual ghost .... whatever you breed it to will also need to carry the ghost gene whether it be another visual or a Het .... otherwise you will just end up with a bunch of Het ghost babies :gj:
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Re: ghost morphs
I have an 0.1 Enchi Hypo that I have paired with 1.0 Lesser het Hypo. I've got a few other hypo and het hypo males and females that I am still growing up. Like Deborah said you want to pair with something that is at least het hypo. Best of luck and I look forward to pictures when you get your Ghost.
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The Enchi Hypo is a great combination. You can ask Deborah about her Blade Enchi Hypo het Clown. Speaking of Hypo Clowns, they are really great looking and one of the projects I am getting into. The project that I am really excited about right now is my Hypo Pied project. You can ask rlditmars to see a picture of the one that he recently got. If you need more inspiration, just look at this thread by lyfoti05 (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Hypo-Pairings) who is doing some awesome work with the Hypo gene.
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^^^^ Love me a Enchi Hypo!! I picked this guy up a few months ago specifically for my clown project, he will be paired to my Pastel Clown girl next season for some double het's :gj:
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psunfh9auq.jpg
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I was looking through the morph market to see what can be produced with the ghost gene and I'm really digging the humblebee
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Originally Posted by scottman
I was looking through the morph market to see what can be produced with the ghost gene and I'm really digging the humblebee
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Are you looking to do a long term project to tinker and just get the experience? The reason I ask is because with the ghost male you just purchased in order to get a humble bee the female would need to be a bumblebee Het ghost in order to produce a humble bee, and quite frankly for what you would pay for a bumblebee Het ghost ... you could spend an extra 50 to 80 bucks and just buy the humble bee
Humble bee = pastel/spider/ghost genes
Bumblebee = pastel/ spider genes
Pastel is a (Co-Dominant) gene
Spider is a (Dominant) gene
Both of these genes only require one of the parents to carry the gene in order to produce the gene
Ghost is a (Recessive) gene
With a Recessive gene both of the parents need to carry the gene in order to produce a visual specimen of the gene .... there is a non visual version of a recessive gene which is called a Het .. a Het carries the gene but it cannot be seen
It gets deeper than that but I'm not going to type up a whole lesson on genetics
You have a visual ghost
The genetic's are quite confusing at first but once you learn how they work it is a breeze ..... Here you go:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics
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Well I guess now I have to show off
Hypo Enchi
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ypoEnchi03.jpg
Hypo Enchi Blade Het Clown
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...chiBlade07.jpg
One I have not introduced yet Hypo Super Mojave....yes it just a white snake but the possibilities of never producing anything less than Hypo Mojave if paired with the right male is what motivated me in getting her.
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...erMojave_4.jpg
The goals for those ladies are to be incorporated in Clown and Pied projects.
OP if you are looking into Humblebee make sure you are familiar with the spider gene and are willing to work with it.
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I do actually want it to be a long term project, I think it would be cool to say I started with this particular snake and over the course of time I produced this really beautiful snake with time and dedication.
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Re: ghost morphs
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Well I guess now I have to show off
Damn. My turn I guess. I've been following this thread anyway. BTW, great looking stuff Deborah, as always.
This is my future pair.
0.1 Black Pastel Ghost Pinstripe
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...pscpywidoc.jpg
1.0 GHI Chocolate het Ghost.
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3wbgpyxb.jpg
He'll be ready to go this next season. Her, not so much. I'll pair him to my 0.1 Humble Bee in the mean time.
Dave
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OP if you are looking into Humblebee make sure you are familiar with the spider gene and are willing to work with it.[/QUOTE]
The spider gene is actually one gene I really want to work with.
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Originally Posted by scottman
I do actually want it to be a long term project, I think it would be cool to say I started with this particular snake and over the course of time I produced this really beautiful snake with time and dedication.
There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with this at all!! :gj: :gj: :gj:
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Figures .... Thanks Deborah and Dave! That'll teach me to chime in with the big dogs before I get a better camera and lighting!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Deborah, this is the one that you got and the blade gene was a surprise bonus correct? Did you pair him this year?
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Dave Dave Dave .... This thing just got the blood flowing down under, so to speak! :bow: ..... I love a good Black Pin and was planning on putting my Fire Pin male to my Black Pastel female next season in hopes of a Black Pin Fire ..... after seeing this girl, I'm gonna have to seriously think about which way I want to take my Black Pin project
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Originally Posted by AKA Dave
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Originally Posted by T_Sauer
There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with this at all!! :gj: :gj: :gj:
I didnt think there was. Lol. I actually want to work with this gene and a couple others as a hobby thing, though I do want to one day make a business out of it.
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I have a really nice Enchi Hypo but compared to Deborah's it may be a bit anticlimactic, kind of like looking at a picture of Steve Buscemi after looking at a picture of Brad Pitt. So here is one of my Pied Ghost.
[IMG]http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...pszuqcx2pz.jpg[/IMG]
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Originally Posted by rlditmars
I have a really nice Enchi Hypo but compared to Deborah's it may be a bit anticlimactic, so I will show my Pied Ghost.
LOL ... join the club .... I threw my hypo enchi photo up premature!! :rofl:
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Originally Posted by T_Sauer
Figures .... Thanks Deborah and Dave! That'll teach me to chime in with the big dogs before I get a better camera and lighting!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Deborah, this is the one that you got and the blade gene was a surprise bonus correct? Did you pair him this year?
I blame Chris on me showing off he mentioned my name ;) .....no big dog just someone very picky that had the good fortune to find the perfect animal to fit my small collection (and also someone with a background in photography it helps too)
And yes this was last year's surprise female BTW now over 1000 grams so that's for next season, I did the same pairing that produced her again this year though ;)
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Originally Posted by Deborah
I blame Chris on me showing off he mentioned my name ;) .....no big dog just someone very picky that had the good fortune to find the perfect animal to fit my small collection (and also someone with a background in photography it helps too)
And yes this was last year's surprise female BTW now over 1000 grams so that's for next season, I did the same pairing that produced her again this year though ;)
It's really all just part of my evil plan to get others hooked on awesome combinations. Your girl and rlditmars boy are some of the best examples I can think of for what Hypo can do, and so they need to be shown off! Tim (lyfoti05) needs to show off some of his stuff in this thread too!
nobelreptiles/Thom Nobel also produced a pair of really great Super Enchi Pastel Hypos (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...l-orange-ghost).
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So many amazing Ghost combos! :gj:
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Love the Hypo Pastave! They're all really nice but that one just catches my eye.
Dave
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Originally Posted by AKA Dave
Love the Hypo Pastave! They're all really nice but that one just catches my eye.
Dave
Thanks, Dave. She is the first animal I would show someone who is interested in working with hypos. I told myself that I wouldn't buy a mojave hypo and that I would make my own, but I had to make an exception for her. :D
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I like ghost on anything that's usually really dark, or has high contrast, I feel like it really pops those guys. :) lyfoti05 has a great example of what I'm talkin' abowt:
Awww yeaaah.
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Orange ghost is a must have! It is such a great enhancer it makes everything better!
Fire calico orange ghost
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...8c9b35564c.jpg
Spinner orange ghost
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...ac0fe95144.jpg
Super enchi pastel orange ghost
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...25e59d0c14.jpg
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Get quality OG's!When buying an animal,make the seller pull the tub and snap a cell phone pic,instead of sending a "Glamour Shot" ,so you see what your actually getting.;)
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...2529_thumb.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...2502_thumb.jpg
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You seem obsessed with this "glamour shot" concept. A properly white balanced photograph on a clean background doesn't make it a "glamour shot". When I take my pictures under my light kit, I always include four paint chips from Home Depot that I crop out. The reason I do this is so that a customer can check to make sure that I have not manipulated the colors in the picture. What the buyer should want is a picture that has colors that are accurate to what the eye sees. Some cameras do this quite well in their automatic settings, some people enjoy taking pictures on a clean background so that the snake pops.
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Just to show what I mean, I took a picture of one of my Pastel Hypo het for Pied girls with three different cameras. I took one picture with my Samsung S5 (smart phone), one with my Nikon Coolpix L28 (a point and shoot small camera), and one with my Canon Rebel XT. I left my Canon Rebel XT's settings the same as I use under my light kit. My light kit has lights that are full spectrum and 5000K while my snake room has typical house hold compact fluorescent lights (CFLs) that are 2700K. Here is all the editing that I did to make this comparison picture. I imported the RAW file from the Canon Rebel XT into Adobe Lightroom. I cropped the picture to 8 x 10 ratio. I then saved a copy of the picture as a jpeg with the white balance set for my light kit (this is the bottom right picture and looks very yellow because the lights in the room are 2700K and not 5000K like the lights in my light kit, by the way, if a camera or smart phone is in fully automatic, it adjusts the white balance on its own, whether you are inside under fluorescent lights, CFLs, incandescent lights, or out in the sun). I then (still in Lightroom) used the eyedropper to pick the neutral grey on the WhiBal card so that the white balance would be adjusted (this is the bottom left picture). I then saved a copy of the picture as a jpeg with the white balance corrected. I then opened Adobe Photoshop Elements 8.0 and cropped the picture taken by the Samsung S5 to an 8 x 10 ratio (top right picture). I then in Photoshop Elements 8.0 cropped the picture taken by the Nikon Coolpix L28 to an 8 x 10 ratio (top left picture). Finally, still in Photoshop Elements 8.0, I put all four pictures together so that they can be viewed and compared at once.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps2bmiuvtk.jpg
The Pastel Hypo het Pied was in a freshly cleaned tub (I cleaned all my tubs last night), but what would it matter if I had her on a clean background? Would that really make it a "glamour shot"? What any of us should try to do is capture the true colors of the snake so that a customer is pleased when they open up the box and see their new animal. If we choose to present the animal on a clean background, or in a clean tub, does it really make a difference?
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Originally Posted by Slowcountry Balls
What any of us should try to do is capture the true colors of the snake so that a customer is pleased when they open up the box and see their new animal.
This! After health, condition, correct morph and gender identification, this is the last important item any of us can address before the box is opened, and we either have a satisfied customer, or a disappointed one.
Thanks Chris for the work to show this.
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