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  • 12-29-2015, 03:13 PM
    Diaspora
    EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Hi everyone,
    i just noticed my BP has some kind of "hole" in her eye.
    Like when you push into a ping-pong ball you know ?
    I'm freaking out.
    It doesn't look like it's a retained eye-cap
    Her eye really doesn't have a spheric form anymore.
    Any advice or someone who already had the same problem ?
    I'm trying to contact vets but the ones who are specialized in reptiles aren't on call.
    I tried to take a picture but you can't see anything..

    Thanks!
  • 12-29-2015, 03:14 PM
    Rickys_Reptiles
    It's a retained eye cap, no need to do anything. Raise the humidity the next time your snake sheds. If you want you can post a pic to be sure, but I'm 99% sure.
  • 12-29-2015, 03:15 PM
    bigSAK
    hows your husbandry? sounds like humidity is too low... A picture is a big help too, i'm sure all will agree
  • 12-29-2015, 03:20 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Humidity is around 55%-60%, i raise it when she's shedding
    last time was a bad shed though. I let her soak for 1h and everything came off easily when wiping with a cloth
    checked her eyes and didn't seem like anything left on it.
    Her next shed will probably be in 3-4 months.. can't leave her like that...
  • 12-29-2015, 03:23 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Managed to take some pics

    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...a3095008ff.jpg
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...1b7390aebd.jpg


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  • 12-29-2015, 03:27 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    And also.. It's very recent
    I took pictures of her for Christmas and it was fine..
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...e0dd5e0d8c.jpg


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  • 12-29-2015, 03:49 PM
    bcr229
    That is not a retained eye cap, it is a sign that your snake is dehydrated. Your humidity is still too low. What does your snake's setup look like?
  • 12-29-2015, 04:04 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    What are you using to measure your humidity?
    That is dehydration from low humidity.
  • 12-29-2015, 04:06 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...968d1ecbb4.jpg




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    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm using a hygrometer

    - - - Updated - - -

    Should i just give her baths and humidify her tank then? Or is there something specific i should do ?
  • 12-29-2015, 04:11 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    What type of hydrometer???
    Please dont soak your snake. You will do more harm than good by washing away oils the snake produces to help itself shed.
    Husbandry needs to be corrected first.
  • 12-29-2015, 04:24 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    That's the hydrometer
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...605955f7ac.jpg

    A vet told me to give her a bath and guess what.. Her eye is fine again!
    Now the husbandry issue..
    Spraying to raise the humidity then ?

    Thanks all for your help
    Never freaked out so much


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  • 12-29-2015, 04:41 PM
    distaff
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    A digital one *might* be more accurate. There is an old article somewhere on the net about how far off most hygrometers can be.
    I recently posted about four of mine - all in the same area of the room, and with readings all over the place! Since the readings don't any sense, I've stopped checking them.

    You might want to keep a humid hide in the enclosure. I haven't made one, but they are usually described as a suitably sized tupperware type container, with an entry hole cut in the lid, and stuffed with damp spagnum moss. I use plants, and living moss, but my guys are small, so they can dig down into the pots. That might not work as well for a grown BP. A wrung out towel in the enclosure can help in a quick pinch, as well as a plastic covered wrung out towel over the screen, if you have a tank.
  • 12-29-2015, 04:44 PM
    SmoothScales
    That's dimpling caused by dehydration. Make sure she's got fresh water in her bowl and maybe drop in a humid hide for her. How are you measuring humidity? Those little dial ones are horrible. It's easy to forget that with the heaters running more during the cold weather the humidity will get sucked right out of the air.

    I would suggest covering a screen cover for a glass tank with aluminum foil before placing a wet towel over it. For one - eww...who wants a wet towel over their stuff? For two - where do bacteria like to hang out? Warm, damp places. Like that towel. Aluminum foil over 2/3 of the screen works just as well imo. Bonus humidity for having your water bowl under it on the warm side.
  • 12-29-2015, 04:49 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by distaff View Post
    You might want to keep a humid hide in the enclosure. I haven't made one, but they are usually described as a suitably sized tupperware type container, with an entry hole cut in the lid, and stuffed with damp spagnum moss.

    Could i put sphagnum moss in her favorite hide then ? (the one in the middle)
    She spend most of her time in there
    because i think there's not really enough space to add another hide.. plus a sort of tupperware in her tank would look horrible (yes, i like it when it looks nice too :P)

    And i'll go buy a digital hydrometer asap then!
  • 12-29-2015, 04:53 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Yeah the analog gauges you have there are plain junk.
    You soaking her will rehydrate her but still not good or recommended.
  • 12-29-2015, 04:53 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SmoothScales View Post
    Aluminum foil over 2/3 of the screen works just as well imo. Bonus humidity for having your water bowl under it on the warm side.

    Her tank already is covered but with a thin layer of cork..
    and i tried the warm bowl on the warm side but the humidity was too high..
  • 12-29-2015, 04:55 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Yeah the analog gauges you have there are plain junk.
    You soaking her will rehydrate her but still not good or recommended.

    Temporary solution for sure!
    i will try to fix the husbandry anyways! :)
  • 12-29-2015, 04:58 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    I'd put damp moss in ALL her hides.

    The bedding looks like coconut husk. To raise the humidity I dampen the top of the husk and then mix it all around the enclosure. Repeat the process if it's still too dry. That should bump up the humidity quite a bit.

    With the digital thermometer/hygrometer you'll know your actual humidity.

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  • 12-29-2015, 05:12 PM
    bcr229
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Diaspora View Post
    Her tank already is covered but with a thin layer of cork..
    and i tried the warm bowl on the warm side but the humidity was too high..

    Cork absorbs moisture (at least, the ones in my wine bottles seem to a bit...) so I would replace it with something like plexiglass.

    The humidity is a lot lower than what that guage is reporting if your snake is dehydrated. I would add a second water bowl on the warm side.
  • 12-29-2015, 06:30 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Ok.
    So shopping list: New hydrometer/Thermometer & Sphagnum moss
    I'll try with those asap and then see if the husbandry gets better :D

    Thanks a lot for your help and advice!
  • 12-30-2015, 09:40 AM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Sphagnum is in place in humidity already rose :)

    I've found this hydro-thermo meter
    Is it a good one ?
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...dad5c8813e.jpg


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  • 12-30-2015, 09:52 AM
    bcr229
    I believe it is.
  • 12-30-2015, 09:59 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Think so, just make sure the probe doesn't get wet.
  • 12-30-2015, 05:01 PM
    Ben.Smith.512
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Mine was like that too before. Fix humid and your buddy will be ok

    -Ben Smith
  • 12-30-2015, 05:47 PM
    Diaspora
    Re: EMERGENCY! Eye issue, Please Help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben.Smith.512 View Post
    Mine was like that too before. Fix humid and your buddy will be ok

    -Ben Smith

    Comforting! :D

    I put some sphagnum in her favorite hide but i think she hates it!
    She went in it to check on what i did and since then she refuses to go back in there :P
    so i took the moss out and just put it in some corners of the tank

    I thought of "mixing it" with the substrate
    what do you guys think ?
  • 12-30-2015, 07:02 PM
    hazzaram
    You'll have to watch the moss because it can mold fast. To raise humidity when mine are shedding, I just put a small cup of it in their bin where they can't get to it (usually on top of their hide) and it helps amazingly. But that's with a plastic bin, which holds humidity amazing anyway.

    For my brazilian rainbow boa, who needs high humidity, I have a large water dish half over the heat mat and a humid hide. It's just a locking tupperwear with a hole in the top, filled with damp cypress mulch (which doesn't mold). It doesn't look great but I honestly don't care much, lol. I care about health more than the look of my tanks. I'll probably care more once I switch to PVC display tanks.
  • 12-30-2015, 07:19 PM
    wolfy-hound
    If you put the moss around, she'll get used to it and then she may like it inside her hides. You can soak the moss, then squeeze it out well, and put it into place. Just check regularly that it hasn't dried out nor molded.

    You'll be able to tell the humidity much better once you've got the digital one. Good luck! It usually takes a bit of tweaking to get everything just right.
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