Ermergerd!

So i was about to order a herpstat off amazon. i notice people are always saying they weren't cheap so i knew it would cost, but holy hell! im not broke, not by any means! on a scale of 1-broke to 10-money's no object, im about 7 or 8. i just cant see myself spending that much on one item though, and i have 5 bp. so my question, before i break down and buy this thing, is there an alternative?

100$ for the protection of 5 snakes is well worth it imo...ve are good tstats as well same price range tho....

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You only need one.
Also all 5 have to have IDENTICAL heats sources.
What are you using for enclosures?

If you have five snakes what have you been using up until now to regulate heat?

Yes the better t-stats cost money but when you can run a whole rack on just one they start to look pretty cheap.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

If you have five snakes what have you been using up until now to regulate heat?

Yes the better t-stats cost money but when you can run a whole rack on just one they start to look pretty cheap.

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i've been using heat pads. however, my roommate who is home during the day left town suddenly so i dont have anyone to monitor the temperatures during the day. i didnt know i could use one. but i may be calling it the wrong name. i have my BPs in one room, but they are in seperate tubs and tanks. I have one in a tub because she's just more comfortable there, i just moved another to a tub to get her to eat, the other 3 are in tanks. i dont have them in racks.

As long as the heating pad are the same size and watts you can run off of one t stat...as long as it under the max load of the tstat... what do you mean monitoring temps are the pads regulated at all?

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

You only need one.
Also all 5 have to have IDENTICAL heats sources.
What are you using for enclosures?

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2 are in tubs. 3 in tanks. i dont have a rack yet.

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Originally Posted by frostysBP

As long as the heating pad are the same size and watts you can run off of one t stat...as long as it under the max load of the tstat... what do you mean monitoring temps are the pads regulated at all?

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not really. regulated by roommate mostly if that counts. she turns them off or on when she checks the humidity in their enclosures.

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Originally Posted by frostysBP

100$ for the protection of 5 snakes is well worth it imo...ve are good tstats as well same price range tho....

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what i'm looking at isn't $100 is the problem. i also didnt know i could use one on multiple enclosures, i thought i had to buy 5. what im looking at starts at $200.

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Originally Posted by ssg150102

not really. regulated by roommate mostly if that counts. she turns them off or on when she checks the humidity in their enclosures.

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Have you actually seen what an unregulated heat source can do?
Wish I would have taken photos from when I got her. All the puss and stuff oozing out of the cooked skin.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psne0gktek.jpg

This is the proper way to set up heat.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psp2koldrd.jpg

As long as all of your heat pads are the same you can plug them all into one power strip and then plug the strip into the thermostat.
Attach the probe to one of the mats and then fine tune it from there.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Yes the better t-stats cost money but when you can run a whole rack on just one they start to look pretty cheap.

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I have THREE racks on one VE-200 ;)

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

As long as all of your heat pads are the same you can plug them all into one power strip and then plug the strip into the thermostat.
Attach the probe to one of the mats and then fine tune it from there.

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Good info for us NOOBS!

[QUOTE=PitOnTheProwl;2376018]Have you actually seen what an unregulated heat source can do?
Wish I would have taken photos from when I got her. All the puss and stuff oozing out of the cooked skin.

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not VERY concerned about that happening. we have a good system going. but im home alone now so i do want to improve. thanks for the info though. nice to know i dont have to buy 5.

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Originally Posted by dejadoo

Good info for us NOOBS!

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Its been posted too many times ;):rofl::rofl::rofl:

Wow your system blow!!!!!! you are risking the lives of all 5 of your snakes and your house with unregulated heat pads.....they go well over 120 degrees and you evidently are not measuring your temos right if you say they are 90 with a unregulated heat pad....what you are doing is not safe at all... unplug those until they are regulated some how...I dont care if you dont want to listen but dont make your snakes suffer your laziness and disregard what nore experienced people tell you l...that is just foolish

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A room mate plugging and unplugging uth mats is not a system. That is a tragedy waiting to happen.

Im not rich but I have two Herpstat 1s, a 2, and a 4. I bought some used which saved me some money but overall I have a good little chunk of money invested in them. I think the money was wisely spend to insure the safety of my collection.

Spend the money and do it right the first time. A Herpstat will last a very long time and you will get good use from it.

Buying direct can also be done and they ship very quickly.
http://spyderrobotics.com/home/products.html

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Originally Posted by ssg150102

nice to know i dont have to buy 5.

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While you don't need five, you do need to ensure that if you run all of your matts off of one t-stat that every matt is exactly the same manufacturer and size/wattage.

Also now that you're up to five ball pythons you may want to look into a rack for them. It will be cheaper to run, requires less space, it's easier to clean, and you can sell the tanks to more than cover the cost.

Check ebay and fauna classifieds. I've gotten almost all of my herpstats from ebay for pretty cheap. I've only had to buy one from spyder robotics. Please get one asap. A thermostat is the most important thing you will ever invest in in this hobby. As pit on the prowl showed keeping them unregulated is a very dangerous and unwise choice. Please make the right decision as soon as possible.

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Originally Posted by frostysBP

Wow your system blow!!!!!! you are risking the lives of all 5 of your snakes and your house with unregulated heat pads.....they go well over 120 degrees and you evidently are not measuring your temos right if you say they are 90 with a unregulated heat pad....what you are doing is not safe at all... unplug those until they are regulated some how...I dont care if you dont want to listen but dont make your snakes suffer your laziness and disregard what nore experienced people tell you l...that is just foolish

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like i said, they are monitored all day. until my roommate left that is. not worried about your so-called insults either. you can answer the question or not. nothing else you said matters.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

While you don't need five, you do need to ensure that if you run all of your matts off of one t-stat that every matt is exactly the same manufacturer and size/wattage.

Also now that you're up to five ball pythons you may want to look into a rack for them. It will be cheaper to run, requires less space, it's easier to clean, and you can sell the tanks to more than cover the cost.

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i actually am looking into racks. i moved a few to tubs to get them to eat and they all seemed to prefer them.

Oh I suppose your your snakes lifes dont matter. I did answer your question you..you chose to disregard my advice as well others...get a ir temp gun and look for yourself...http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...80ac4a6444.jpg burn pic from a unregulated heat pad...what you are doing is unsafe all the way...u are a very irresponsible pet owner...

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Just let it go.
Soon will be the "what is this on my snake" thread.......................
We can only point them in the right direction, though we know nothing here. SMH

To answer your original question. Yes, there are cheaper alternatives to a herpstat. A hydrofarm thermostat is a pretty reliable and much cheaper option. About $30 on Amazon. They're a good option when you're on a budget, but with five snakes it might be better to go with the herpstat. The herpstat has certain fail safes built in to keep your pets safe and with a collection like that I would recommend it, getting five snakes treated for burns at the vet is a lot more expensive than a herpstat.

You'll have to excuse us if we seem rude, but your current set up is severely risking your snakes health whether you think it is or not. An unregulated heat pad gets WAY hotter than 90 degrees so it sounds like whatever method you are using to read temps is not accurate. With your thermostat I would recommend also getting a temp gun or some digital thermometers with probes (accurite makes a good one) to accurately read your belly heat, ambient temps, and humidity.

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Originally Posted by kvanwingerden

To answer your original question. Yes, there are cheaper alternatives to a herpstat. A hydrofarm thermostat is a pretty reliable and much cheaper option. About $30 on Amazon. They're a good option when you're on a budget, but with five snakes it might be better to go with the herpstat. The herpstat has certain fail safes built in to keep your pets safe and with a collection like that I would recommend it, getting five snakes treated for burns at the vet is a lot more expensive than a herpstat.

You'll have to excuse us if we seem rude, but your current set up is severely risking your snakes health whether you think it is or not. An unregulated heat pad gets WAY hotter than 90 degrees so it sounds like whatever method you are using to read temps is not accurate. With your thermostat I would recommend also getting a temp gun or some digital thermometers with probes (accurite makes a good one) to accurately read your belly heat, ambient temps, and humidity.

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i dont really care about "rude", all i'm saying is dont expect to be listened to if you are. you can talk professionally or not. i know heat pads get hotter than 90 degrees. i have a temp gun, i have two hydro-thermometers and an additional regular thermometer on all my tanks. the only thing i didn't have was the herpstat. all i do is come on here and ask for help. the books dont tell me enough and i dont trust the pet store clerks at all. if people want to help i except it, but all the extra stuff, i dont.

Regardless of how they say it, the point everyone is trying to get across is that you're roommate does not replace the reliability of a thermostat unless they are going to sit in front of the tanks 24/7 and monitor the temperature. At any time that heat mat could overheat and burn your snake and someone might not catch it in time. A thermostat will turn the heat mat on and off on it's own and keep it at the set temperature. So please, unplug the heat mats for now until you get yourself a thermostat. No one on this forum wants to see your snakes injured and I imagine you don't either.


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Your rude is my blunt.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...pszdz9tb8r.jpg
This is less than ten minutes of running.
There is a reason some of us will jump on the ignorance of not running a thermostat on a contact heat source.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Your rude is my blunt.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...pszdz9tb8r.jpg
This is less than ten minutes of running.
There is a reason some of us will jump on the ignorance of not running a thermostat on a contact heat source.

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This exactly

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A thermostat costs less than a vet bill for a burned snake.

Not to sound rude myself but I think people are being, "rude" because the system you're trying to use will not work. You can't regulate how much heat they are putting out without a thermostat and unplugging it won't stop it from malfunctioning and burning or cooking your snake with the possibility of not only injury but death of the animal. Those heaters heat up FAST and you more then likely won't catch it in time before the damage is done. People are trying to give you advice and you for some reason are still set on the idea that your system actually works. If that is your mindset then why ask for advice?
I think it's safe to say everyone here loves these animals and no one likes the idea of one suffering or dying from a incident that could easily be prevented. So some of us get a little passionate and come off as rude to see the issue corrected for the animals sake.
I know it seems expensive but it's in the best interest for your animals and as the rule with any pet ownership, if you cant afford the necessities then you can't afford the pet.
I hope you can get your hands on a thermostat you can afford. Good luck!

And to answer your original question, break down and get the herpstat, I think they are totally worth the cost as far as any thermostats go. [emoji6]

Snake in danger + Straight forward information = Rude :slamhead: