Cut eggs, snakes not coming out!

We decided to go ahead and cut our eggs on day 54 of 90 degrees. This is our first attempt at breeding. We decided to cut because when our female laid the eggs, we did not separate the eggs and instead left them laying in a pile as they seemed like they might rip if we tried to pull them apart, and by day 54 our top 2 eggs were VERY dented and basically caving in on themselves and the bottom 3 were not dented at all. We have had them in a Reptibator incubation system for the full term. The humidity says it's at 80% but the walls are visibly moist and our substrate is definately wet and moist to the touch. I cut the eggs 3 days ago and all snakes appear to be alive however as far as I can tell the yolks are still pretty large. They are still not coming out. It's been three days and at first they were very active and now I checked this morning and they are not moving much. I am heartbroken and am so afraid that I did something wrong and ended up killing my clutch. I only nicked a vein on the very top one and that one actually appears to have some slight movement still. The eggs had a lot of clear liquid in them. I don't know if that means anything or not. I thought they would be coming out a lot earlier so I ended up cutting off the flap of shell at the top and now they are exposed to the air as well, though most are still covered by the clear fluid. Is there anything else I can do? I'm getting to the point now where I feel like every move I make is just making it worse and worse.

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I'm trying to figure out who separates the eggs,and cuts them in the wild

Thank you for your help. I didn't post for debate, I didn't waste my time creating an account here, taking pictures and writing down my issues and posting it on the internet to conversate with you. I am trying to SAVE MY ANIMAL'S LIFE. The eggs are cut. If you want to help or have any further advice FROM THIS POINT IN MY SITUATION ONWARD that's great. Otherwise leave me alone, please.

Leave the eggs alone for now. The babies will come out when they are ready. I've had some wait for 3-4 days even after pipping on their own.

Just give it time. It's not a quick process. A small nick to a vein is nothing to worry about. And clear liquid is a good sign. A lot of times when eggs are cut early on the liquid starts getting a bit funky...

Good luck! :gj:

I would just leave them alone... The more u open the tub the more heat is getting out.. I have done the same thing u have done and realized that they needed more time.. The incubator you have isn't the best and I don't believe they give a right temp... usually around day 60 to 62 mine come out of the eggs with the cheaper incubators... That's what I have noticed... And by the way u did the right thing and left the eggs together a lot of people leave them the way they are...

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Originally Posted by grcforce327

I'm trying to figure out who separates the eggs,and cuts them in the wild

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He was searching for help, not smart comments, it's not appreciated on forums for people seeking help. Every breeder cuts their eggs, with that said, like the others said just give it time, you've got some great advice so far.

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Originally Posted by RichieBoo

I would just leave them alone... The more u open the tub the more heat is getting out.. I have done the same thing u have done and realized that they needed more time.. The incubator you have isn't the best and I don't believe they give a right temp... usually around day 60 to 62 mine come out of the eggs with the cheaper incubators... That's what I have noticed... And by the way u did the right thing and left the eggs together a lot of people leave them the way they are...

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The Reptibator by Zoomed is one of the only commercial incubators that has a built in proportional thermostat. It is a great incubator for the price and is used in a lot of public zoo breeding programs. I just hatched out a clutch of 5 eggs out of 5 laid on August 3rd. The temperature was steady and reliable throughout the whole incubation period. The humidity was what had to be tweaked. But I used press and seal on the tubs to improve on the humidity percentages. :)

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Originally Posted by MidSouthMorphs

He was searching for help, not smart comments, it's not appreciated on forums for people seeking help. Every breeder cuts their eggs, with that said, like the others said just give it time, you've got some great advice so far.

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Some of us wait until the day after first one pips, but then I incubate at 87*F so it takes longer. Usually I end up cutting only one or two eggs from each clutch.

BTW my first clutch was inadvertently incubated at 86.5*F though I thought it was at 88*F due to a faulty thermometer, which is why I wait now.

Next time I will definitely wait until one pips. I was concerned about the two eggs that were really badly dented in on themself, but in retrospect I should have just let them do their thing. If I lose them all I will just be devastated. I will post again if I have any news and thanks to everyone for giving me some direction.

If they are not ready they will not come out regardless of how early you cut, I have seen animals take as long as a week before emerging out of their eggs.

So long they are alive, no foul smell is coming out from those eggs you just need to be patient.

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Originally Posted by Oh_BubbleTrumps

Next time I will definitely wait until one pips. I was concerned about the two eggs that were really badly dented in on themself, but in retrospect I should have just let them do their thing. If I lose them all I will just be devastated. I will post again if I have any news and thanks to everyone for giving me some direction.

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Loosing some animals is part of breeding them.
Doesn't matter how good you are at it.
Sometimes, it does feel devastating. You just have to deal with it, and work through the problem.

Grab some press and seal for the tub to increase the humidity, and just wait it out for now. Good luck.:gj:

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Some of us wait until the day after first one pips, but then I incubate at 87*F so it takes longer. Usually I end up cutting only one or two eggs from each clutch.

BTW my first clutch was inadvertently incubated at 86.5*F though I thought it was at 88*F due to a faulty thermometer, which is why I wait now.

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I should have said most cut after the first pip. But I've known some to let it go naturally, with only cutting if necessary. It's all breeder preference as you know very well.

I also regularly cut all my eggs ... typically day 54. Never had a problem or lost one to cutting. Will agree sometimes they take a while to emerge. And by cutting, you now have visibility to the animal and should be able to see movement. Like others have said, give them time. Good luck! :)

i do not agree that every breeder cuts their eggs. I know several who never do it. I even know breeders using maternal incubation instead of an incubator too.

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Originally Posted by Paul's Pieds

i do not agree that every breeder cuts their eggs. I know several who never do it. I even know breeders using maternal incubation instead of an incubator too.

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Again, I mentioned in my last post that most do meaning the ones I know. Actually every breeder that I know personally does, but I am well aware of people not cutting unless completely necessary.

Did the eggs peel apart or did you cut them altogether? When eggs are stuck together and they peel apart really easy that is a good sign they are almost ready to pip.

If you see large yolk they are still absorbing. Give them time.

Its nerve racking to wait for them, but doing anything else will likely put them in danger. When there is a problem, it is usually obvious. Eggs go bad very quickly after they are no longer alive.

I cut all my clutches, only because I get impatient and want to see what I helped create......sorry for those who don't agree.

You should be fine. The longest I had one stay in the egg was 10 days after I cut! Longest 10 days ever. He came out fine. I found that my magic number is 58 days. Mine always emerge on day 58.

Good luck.

Hey everyone! Just an update, most of my snakes are out and really moving around. One of them is really tiny, and he disconnected from his yolk while it was still pretty big. But he has still been moving for a few days after disconnecting. I'll probably try seeing if he'll eat a pinkie here in a day or two just in case he didn't get enough nutrients after disconnecting. The other two that are out are bigger, one also disconnected from a very small yolk, about the size of a small grape, and the other one seems to have absorbed his. I have two more in their eggs but they are sticking their heads out and seem nice and happy.

I moved everybody who was out into a separate tub with slightly damp paper towels because they had a lot substrate attached to their yolk and umbilical cords and I didn't want it hurting them. They are all very active and I have a lot of hope for all of them now. I just wanted to thank everyone for the encouragement and the advice. I might have freaked out and tried messing with them more and more trying to "help" if everyone hadn't have advised me to just be patient.

Thank you so much!