the mites don't care...

... that i'm using PAM :(

they just keep going about their business like i'm not cleaning out the tubs every other day

What kind of substrate are you using in the tubs?

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Used it when I had them and killed them the first treatment. Its safe to spray on everything including the snakes themselves.

Spray and clean everything in, on, and around the snakes. I even sprayed my carpet.

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What kind of substrate are you using in the tubs?

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aspen


a few that were really bad i took all the aspen out and replaced it with paper towels

You should put them all on paper towels until you kill them all.

The paper towels don't give them the hiding places aspen does and you can easily see them on the white background.

Are you spraying enough of it on the aspen? I was just battling mites a a couple of weeks ago. It took me two PAM treatments and a miniral bath for one of my BPs to wipe them out.

Poor guy's scales really suffered because of the mineral bath but it worked. It killed off all the mites on the snake and PAM took care if the mites in the substrate.

I sprayed my snakes with Reptile Spray and the only thing that suffered were the dreaded mites.

Reptile Spray worked so well for me that Im surprised that its not more highly recommended than it is.

I use Reptile Spray. Like KMG said, you spray it on everything including the snake (we applied it with a paper towel). I take out the water dish for 24 hours so Fuzzy can't wash the spray offand ingest it.

PAM doesn't work well with aspen or cypress - too many places for the mites to hide. If it's clean and you want to salvage it to use after the mites are gone, put it into a roasting pan and bake it in an oven at 200*F for half an hour to kill any mites and eggs hiding in it.

In the meantime treat the enclosure and paper towels or newspaper you will be using for substrate with PAM. Once everything has dried you can return your snake to the enclosure.

I also use Reptile Spray on the snake.

I use reptile spray for the reptile and provent-a-mite for the cages. Even though the treatment says you can leave the substrate in, I remove and discard. This is a lot better system than using seven dust in the old days before there was any specialized reptile product.

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You should put them all on paper towels until you kill them all.

The paper towels don't give them the hiding places aspen does and you can easily see them on the white background.

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the mites are white

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Used it when I had them and killed them the first treatment. Its safe to spray on everything including the snakes themselves.

Spray and clean everything in, on, and around the snakes. I even sprayed my carpet.

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I agree. Helped with every rescue/rehome that i have come across. Works like a charm and can be applied to your snake. I called natural chemistry(my fav brand) and they walked me through it all. Also: dilute bleach water about 15:1 and soak EVERYTHING fully submerged (but the snake of course use normal water as if shed time). Let it thoroughly air dry, then use the mite spray on all of it. Do it about 2x a week until you win lol. Hope this helped

Ps: you will have uh.... one uh.... well upset shall we say snake till its over...

i can't wait until this mite problem is completely over

I agree with reptile spray. I had a mite problem with one of my guys and reptile spray took care of it.

Switch the bedding to white paper towels. Then spay them once a week with the reptile spray. Make sure you let it sit on them for a good 2-3 minutes before wiping them down.

Take all tubs, hides, water bowls etc and spray with diluted bleach (I use 10:1), clean and dry. Then spray with reptile spray, and let it air dry. Then put everyone back in.

I also layed out paper towels on a black trash back and spray with reptile spray. Let them dry over night, then when dry use those special treated paper towels as your "bedding."

It really helps to have doubles or extra tubs for all animals or what you'll be waiting all day to get it done right.

Do this for 3 consecutive weeks and it should do the trick.

I the mites are white/tan, then they are likely harmless wood mites. Mites that have "fed" off your snakes will be brown or black (filled with blood). Wood mites will stay white/tan as they do not feed off your snakes.

10% Permithrin diluted 1-2oz per gallon sprayed directly in the tub and on the snakes works great for any type of mite. Just remove the water dish for 24 hours so they do not rinse it off.

I use the same mixture in my rat colony monthly to keep those pesky rodent mites away.

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I the mites are white/tan, then they are likely harmless wood mites. Mites that have "fed" off your snakes will be brown or black (filled with blood). Wood mites will stay white/tan as they do not feed off your snakes.

10% Permithrin diluted 1-2oz per gallon sprayed directly in the tub and on the snakes works great for any type of mite. Just remove the water dish for 24 hours so they do not rinse it off.

I use the same mixture in my rat colony monthly to keep those pesky rodent mites away.

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i'd still rather they all die. if i let them be, maybe they'll develop a taste for snake. :O

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i'd still rather they all die. if i let them be, maybe they'll develop a taste for snake. :O

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They wont. I have had these before and never paid them any attention... I probably have them now.

I had some mites and used reptile spray. I use news paper so I sprayed under paper and on snake and took tub out and sprayed enclosure and couple days they were gone. Thankfully I caught them early enough. Only 2 snakes had them. I recommend reptile spray!http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image...WmL69qHRgQADs=

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They wont. I have had these before and never paid them any attention... I probably have them now.

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they just multiply so damned fast :taz:

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they just multiply so damned fast :taz:

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If they really bother you take the substrate out and bake it. It will kill them all. They are in your substrate when you buy it so every time you add substrate you are in fact adding more mites. You may also seek a different source or brand of substrate. I use cypress and while I have seen these they have never been enough to cause concern.