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  • 12-24-2014, 11:38 PM
    gameonpython
    Fire?
    Two people have told me that my Marshall looks more like a fire than a pastel. He was sold to me as a pastel, but I always thought he looks a lot brighter than a pastel. I figured he must be a super pastel, or something along those lines. What do others think? Here are some pictures:
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...206480d977.jpg
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...b28270d77a.jpg


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  • 12-24-2014, 11:44 PM
    BPSnakeLady
    Re: Fire?
    He looks like a pastel to me. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...53c1710f78.jpg
    This is my daughter's pastel.

    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...b9cb04975e.jpg and this is my other, older pastel, Liam.




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  • 12-24-2014, 11:45 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPSnakeLady View Post
    He looks like a pastel to me. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...53c1710f78.jpg
    This is my daughter's pastel.

    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...b9cb04975e.jpg and this is my other, older pastel, Liam.




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    Thanks. That's what I thought too.


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  • 12-24-2014, 11:46 PM
    BPSnakeLady
    Re: Fire?
    :) you're welcome. He's a very pretty snake btw.


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  • 12-24-2014, 11:46 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPSnakeLady View Post
    :) you're welcome. He's a very pretty snake btw.


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    Thanks:)


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  • 12-25-2014, 01:42 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Fire?
    Definitely not a Pastel.
  • 12-25-2014, 01:58 AM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: Fire?
    This is not a paste does look like a fire to me
  • 12-25-2014, 02:04 AM
    BPSnakeLady
    Re: Fire?
    Interesting. To me, his snake and my daughter's pastel look very similar. What am I not seeing when comparing the pic of his snake to my daughter's pastel?


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  • 12-25-2014, 02:41 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    Definitely not a Pastel.

    What do you think he is?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coldsavage32 View Post
    This is not a paste does look like a fire to me

    What's the difference between pastel and fire?


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  • 12-25-2014, 02:57 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Just been reading up on fires and pastels, definitely has more fire traits. Is this a good or bad thing?


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  • 12-25-2014, 05:01 AM
    aalomon
    Re: Fire?
    Nice looking fire, not even close to a pastel. As for it being a good thing or a bad thing well that up to you. I prefer fires but thats personal preference.
  • 12-25-2014, 06:58 PM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gameonpython View Post
    Just been reading up on fires and pastels, definitely has more fire traits. Is this a good or bad thing?


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    Well if you like white snakes you can make a super fire which is a black eyed Lucy
  • 12-25-2014, 08:21 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coldsavage32 View Post
    Well if you like white snakes you can make a super fire which is a black eyed Lucy

    Black eyed Lucy's are my favorite:) but I don't plan on breeding. Why would she sell him tome as a pastel if he's a fire? The girl breeds the snakes herself, so how could this be?


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  • 12-26-2014, 01:35 AM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gameonpython View Post
    Black eyed Lucy's are my favorite:) but I don't plan on breeding. Why would she sell him tome as a pastel if he's a fire? The girl breeds the snakes herself, so how could this be?


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    I'm not to sure could of been a mistake I doubt she tried ripping you off because I'm pretty sure fires cost more then pastels
  • 12-26-2014, 01:40 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coldsavage32 View Post
    I'm not to sure could of been a mistake I doubt she tried ripping you off because I'm pretty sure fires cost more then pastels

    I agree I don't think she was trying to rip me off, I guess it could have been a mistake. Either way, wether he's a fire or pastel he's still fabulous;)


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  • 12-26-2014, 03:04 AM
    Sweet4serpents
    Re: Fire?
    You have a very adorable, obvious pastel.
  • 12-26-2014, 03:17 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sweet4serpents View Post
    You have a very adorable, obvious pastel.

    Thank you! Yes he's quite adorable! So from all the different opinions about what he is, fire or pastel, I think I have to say that he's a pastel. After all, he was sold to me as a pastel and if there was a chance he was a fire he would've been more expensive than 80$. Thanks for all the help and replies!


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  • 12-26-2014, 05:00 PM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gameonpython View Post
    Thank you! Yes he's quite adorable! So from all the different opinions about what he is, fire or pastel, I think I have to say that he's a pastel. After all, he was sold to me as a pastel and if there was a chance he was a fire he would've been more expensive than 80$. Thanks for all the help and replies!


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    He is for sure a fire I'll post pics of my pastel and fire so you can see the difference http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...70dfe9ac55.jpg this is my male pastel http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...886fb1c6fa.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...cc6d353adb.jpg and this is my male fire
  • 12-26-2014, 07:25 PM
    Alexiel03
    not a pastel, looks like a fire to me, and a nice one at that.
  • 12-26-2014, 07:49 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coldsavage32 View Post
    He is for sure a fire I'll post pics of my pastel and fire so you can see the difference http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...70dfe9ac55.jpg this is my male pastel http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...886fb1c6fa.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...cc6d353adb.jpg and this is my male fire

    Thanks for pictures, very helpful! Yes he does look more like a fire, now that I see the comparison. I think both pastels and fires are very pretty morphs so I'm happy either way:P


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  • 12-26-2014, 11:12 PM
    angllady2
    I don't know you guys, it really seems to me like I can see a faint brown out line on this little guy. I know he has some crazy blushing and flames, but some pastels do. Is it possible to get a clear shot of his head? Fires have a very clear head fade/head stamp. I agree he's really yellow for a pastel, but I do see them that color once in a blue moon. As much as I love fires, I hesitate to say he is one.

    Gale
  • 12-27-2014, 12:14 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    I don't know you guys, it really seems to me like I can see a faint brown out line on this little guy. I know he has some crazy blushing and flames, but some pastels do. Is it possible to get a clear shot of his head? Fires have a very clear head fade/head stamp. I agree he's really yellow for a pastel, but I do see them that color once in a blue moon. As much as I love fires, I hesitate to say he is one.

    Gale

    I can try to get a better pic of his head, but there is this one:
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...65d18020a0.jpg
    He just ate, so I will get better pics in a few days


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  • 12-27-2014, 01:18 AM
    angllady2
    Fire.

    No if's, no and's, no buts. No pastel has that head stamp.

    Sweet little guy, nice and bright like I like my fires to be. And you will be amazed at how he grows into those flames and that blushing. He's going to be killer when he hits about 700 grams.

    Like my two:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...nakes/Mori.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...akes/Mori2.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...nakes/Osa2.jpg

    The top two are my female, she's got a lot of blushing and flames. The male doesn't have as much, but he's still a hot snake to me.
    Congratulations!!

    Gale
  • 12-27-2014, 01:24 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    Fire.

    No if's, no and's, no buts. No pastel has that head stamp.

    Sweet little guy, nice and bright like I like my fires to be. And you will be amazed at how he grows into those flames and that blushing. He's going to be killer when he hits about 700 grams.

    Like my two:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...nakes/Mori.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...akes/Mori2.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...nakes/Osa2.jpg

    The top two are my female, she's got a lot of blushing and flames. The male doesn't have as much, but he's still a hot snake to me.
    Congratulations!!

    Gale

    How come mine is so much yellower than yours?


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  • 12-27-2014, 01:43 AM
    yl4870
    Re: Fire?
    Cause he's young
  • 12-27-2014, 02:15 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yl4870 View Post
    Cause he's young

    Ah okay. Nice snakes by the way.


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  • 12-27-2014, 03:47 AM
    Sweet4serpents
    Re: Fire?
    Did you just get him?
  • 12-27-2014, 03:48 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sweet4serpents View Post
    Did you just get him?

    Yes, I've had him two weeks now.


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  • 12-27-2014, 03:50 AM
    Ballpythoncrazy
    Re: Fire?
    Yours is definitely a fire. Beautiful! Lots of flames. You can tell yours is not a pastel because pastels at that age are BRIGHT yellow. Yours is more of a... Light brown/Creme/beige/ yellowish-brown color? Sorry I'm bad at describing colors lol. But it's definitely not BRIGHT highlighter yellow like a pastel would be

    But (and it might be just me, or the way the picture is taken) he does look a little underweight


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  • 12-27-2014, 03:54 AM
    Sweet4serpents
    Re: Fire?
    Cool, the guy looks like he needs some groceries in him ;) You'll be able to tell more for sure if he's a fire or pastel the older he gets :)
  • 12-27-2014, 01:27 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ballpythoncrazy View Post
    Yours is definitely a fire. Beautiful! Lots of flames. You can tell yours is not a pastel because pastels at that age are BRIGHT yellow. Yours is more of a... Light brown/Creme/beige/ yellowish-brown color? Sorry I'm bad at describing colors lol. But it's definitely not BRIGHT highlighter yellow like a pastel would be

    But (and it might be just me, or the way the picture is taken) he does look a little underweight

    Thanks!

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sweet4serpents View Post
    Cool, the guy looks like he needs some groceries in him ;) You'll be able to tell more for sure if he's a fire or pastel the older he gets :)

    And yes, that was the day I got him and he has since eaten to meals and is already looking bigger



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  • 12-27-2014, 11:42 PM
    Sauzo
    At 2 weeks, he should have eaten a lot more than 2 meals. My little high white pied girl has eaten about 9-10 meals in just under 1 month and she gained about 82g. Get some big rat fuzzies or some rat pups in that skinny little rail :P Nice snake btw.
  • 12-28-2014, 12:29 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    At 2 weeks, he should have eaten a lot more than 2 meals. My little high white pied girl has eaten about 9-10 meals in just under 1 month and she gained about 82g. Get some big rat fuzzies or some rat pups in that skinny little rail :P Nice snake btw.

    Oh yes he's had more meals than two! Just since I've owned him, sorry for confusion :p


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  • 12-29-2014, 12:31 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    I took some pictures of Marshall today on a white background, hoping this helps show his coloring more. I also got a head shot.
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...d6d653ed74.jpg
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...404d528df3.jpg
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...f1bc284053.jpg
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...9a2841ae47.jpg
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...d04c00b326.jpg
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...6d89a22f58.jpg
    Thought this was quite funny.. He likes dice;)
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...d6842bd965.jpg
    Maybe he wanted to play a game? Lol
    Hope the pics help determine his morph


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  • 12-29-2014, 03:00 AM
    AlexisFitzy
    Re: Fire?
    Hot Hot Hot!! He's definitely a fire my friend :) a very pretty bright one at that. He's got the flames and the head stamp.
  • 12-29-2014, 04:07 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy View Post
    Hot Hot Hot!! He's definitely a fire my friend :) a very pretty bright one at that. He's got the flames and the head stamp.

    Thankyou! I figured he must be a fire, he has banding and blushing and his head is very clear, unlike pastels. And on top of that I got a very good deal!


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  • 12-31-2014, 09:54 PM
    BallPythonGuy007
    Re: Fire?
    I'm very interested to see the for sure answer. Ask her what the parents were
  • 12-31-2014, 10:37 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallPythonGuy007 View Post
    I'm very interested to see the for sure answer. Ask her what the parents were

    Yes, will next time I see her


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  • 01-01-2015, 04:11 AM
    ajmreptiles
  • 01-01-2015, 08:23 PM
    Mike41793
    Re: Fire?
    Yup, he's a fire. Fires are way cooler than pastels so you got a deal :)
  • 01-03-2015, 12:25 AM
    darkranger69
    i won t be so affirmative that it s a fire, the blushing is incredible and the color really orange and the absence of noise make me feel that s it s not a fire.
  • 01-03-2015, 12:46 AM
    gameonpython
    Re: Fire?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkranger69 View Post
    i won t be so affirmative that it s a fire, the blushing is incredible and the color really orange and the absence of noise make me feel that s it s not a fire.

    The absence of noise? What do you mean?


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  • 01-03-2015, 12:57 AM
    darkranger69
    the noise is how to describe the dirty effect on the snake scales, pure color is a total absence of noise. fires have usually a great amount of noise in alien heads its one of the fire characteristic specially close to the neck.
  • 01-04-2015, 11:25 AM
    Mike41793
    Re: Fire?
    Fires are more yellow as babies then they get more pale as adults.
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