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What morph is this?

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  • 12-22-2014, 03:27 AM
    pd1116
    What morph is this?
    http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pse0e4cf85.jpg

    got this guy from lllreptiles and was suppose to be a enchi pastel
    Doesn't look like any enchi in it.....maybe super pastel with something else in it ??
  • 12-22-2014, 08:07 PM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: What morph is this?
    I'm not to sure you think you could post some more pics?
  • 12-22-2014, 08:51 PM
    Ransack
    Its an Enchi Pewter? Because it is not an Enchi Pastel, it for sure looks like a Pewter
  • 12-22-2014, 08:55 PM
    Lizardlicks
    You should probably send the pic to LLLReptiles and ask if they sent you the wrong snake. I'm sure if they made that sort of error they'd want to get it corrected.
  • 12-22-2014, 09:14 PM
    fLako0aGuiiLaR
    yeah i agree with Ransack it looks like a Enchi Pewter does not look like a enchi pastel

    its a beautiful snake tho!!
  • 12-22-2014, 09:32 PM
    angllady2
    Well it's a pastel something.

    Enchi I have my doubts, it carries almost no enchi markers that I can see.

    It may be a super pastel cinnamon, but I really don't think there is any enchi in there.

    Gale
  • 12-22-2014, 09:33 PM
    pd1116
    Re: What morph is this?
    I sent them a picture and they are getting back to me.
    They were selling a sub adult .... Pewter het orange ghost ...was thinking maybe that was what they sent
  • 12-22-2014, 10:08 PM
    pd1116
    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141221_201247_zps04167a21.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps04167a21.jpg[/URL]
  • 12-23-2014, 06:20 PM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: What morph is this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pd1116 View Post
    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141221_201247_zps04167a21.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps04167a21.jpg[/URL]

    Yea they sent the wrong snake looks like a pewter of some sort
  • 12-23-2014, 09:52 PM
    Kibbleswhites
    That is not a pewter anything. No cinni or black pastel in that snake. Honestly, I do not see enchi either. What I see is a real nice single gene pastel.
  • 12-23-2014, 10:17 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: What morph is this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kibbleswhites View Post
    What I see is a real nice single gene pastel.

    There is more there than just a pastel.
    Though I would think a very low enchi if at all.
  • 12-23-2014, 10:46 PM
    angllady2
    For sure that looks like an adult Pewter.

    Look at them on WOBP. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pewter/ Not the baby pictures, scroll through and look at the Marcus Jayne adults.

    I believe it may have something else in it, because of the faded head. That is why I thought perhaps a super pastel cinnamon. Pewter is pastel cinnamon, not sure what you call a super pastel cinnamon.

    Would not surprise me one bit if it was the Pewter het ghost.

    Gale
  • 12-24-2014, 08:34 PM
    Kibbleswhites
    Re: What morph is this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    For sure that looks like an adult Pewter.

    Look at them on WOBP. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pewter/ Not the baby pictures, scroll through and look at the Marcus Jayne adults.

    I believe it may have something else in it, because of the faded head. That is why I thought perhaps a super pastel cinnamon. Pewter is pastel cinnamon, not sure what you call a super pastel cinnamon.

    Would not surprise me one bit if it was the Pewter het ghost.

    Gale

    Not a chance. Sorry do not see cinni or black pastel at all. The pattern is way off. Look at the donuts, none of them are complete/floating. Not a single one. The color is also off for a pewter. Head looks like it has rub marks from a rough shed making it look lighter. Enchi is harder because the pictures provided are horrible but there is a faint sign of the classic enchi clover pattern on the head. It could be the pictures throwing us off.
  • 12-24-2014, 10:14 PM
    Solarsoldier001
    Re: What morph is this?
    I don't think it's a pewter. I have an adult pewter. He looks nothing like it to me. Pattern is wrong. And color is wrong. Can you send a pic of the belly/sides?


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  • 12-25-2014, 05:53 AM
    bad-one
    I'm thinking pastel enchi (low expression enchi). I don't see pewter at all.
  • 12-25-2014, 09:08 AM
    Christycat
    sugar pastel?
  • 12-25-2014, 10:48 AM
    Zincubus
    What morph is this?
    Looks like a flaming Normal to me :)

    It's crazy how nobody can decide what flamin morph it actually is . No wonder many Snake keepers laugh at us Royal lovers with all the 100's of ever so slightly differing colour / patterns so many that WE can't even agree agree on them.
  • 12-25-2014, 02:23 PM
    pd1116
    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_085937_zpsadd5e511.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psadd5e511.jpg[/URL]

    This is a shot of the side

    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_090142_zpsbe1667b3.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psbe1667b3.jpg[/URL]

    The strange pattern on left side
  • 12-25-2014, 07:01 PM
    Coldsavage32
    Re: What morph is this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pd1116 View Post
    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_085937_zpsadd5e511.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psadd5e511.jpg[/URL]

    This is a shot of the side

    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_090142_zpsbe1667b3.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psbe1667b3.jpg[/URL]

    The strange pattern on left side

    I'm still thinking pewter maybe it's a pewter with another gene that's making it look different then a normal pewter
  • 12-25-2014, 10:10 PM
    Alicia
    As someone else with pewters, I have to admit . . . I see no pewter there. I see the pastel gene for sure but in the last two photos, the snake has the look of being in some stage of shed to me. Granted, I could be wrong, but it sure looks that way on this monitor. Pastels look atrocious in shed, so if this guy is indeed in blue, that alone will make ID trickier. If it is, trying to ID it might be easier after it sloughs.
  • 12-27-2014, 04:07 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: What morph is this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pd1116 View Post
    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_085937_zpsadd5e511.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psadd5e511.jpg[/URL]

    This is a shot of the side

    URL=http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Donoughue/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_090142_zpsbe1667b3.jpg.html]http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psbe1667b3.jpg[/URL]

    The strange pattern on left side

    So is that "worn away" look on the lower section a desirable thing/ trait or a simply an undesirable / unavoidable side effect ?
  • 12-27-2014, 11:58 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    Re: What morph is this?
    I still don't see any cinnamon or black pastel. I'll get some pics of my pewter. But it doesn't look like it to me


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