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  • 08-11-2014, 12:53 PM
    katep788
    Pastel?
    I purchased this female in April as a pastel. She turned out to be gravid and laid three eggs in June which just hatched. All three are normal babies (albeit very wild patterning). So did I just have bad luck or is she actually not a pastel?
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../7/pastel1.jpg
  • 08-11-2014, 12:57 PM
    dr del
    Re: Pastel?
    Not a pastel - looks more like it could be a fire?
  • 08-11-2014, 01:10 PM
    katep788
    Re: Pastel?
    Here is one of the hatchlings. They all have this crazy patterning going on just like Mom. So... keep them as dinkers? Or just rehome them cheap? I repeat... I didn't breed this female, she was bred before I bought her and surprised us with three eggs two months after she came to us.

    [IMG]http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../3/7/baby1.jpg[/IMG]
  • 08-11-2014, 01:12 PM
    dr del
    Re: Pastel?
    I'd wait until the hatchlings have had a few sheds first then repost pictures of them and see what people say. :)
  • 08-11-2014, 01:13 PM
    katep788
    Re: Pastel?
    Will do!
  • 08-11-2014, 02:13 PM
    CORBIN911
    Contact who you bought her from, See what possible paring was, as Del said she does look Fire'ish
  • 08-11-2014, 02:25 PM
    katep788
    Re: Pastel?
    I bought her from someone who bought her from someone...etc. But here's a pic of the clutch sire

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/5/0/3/3/7/dad.jpg
  • 08-11-2014, 06:32 PM
    Swayback
    She's pretty!

    What does she weigh?
  • 08-11-2014, 07:52 PM
    joebad976
    Re: Pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by katep788 View Post
    I purchased this female in April as a pastel. She turned out to be gravid and laid three eggs in June which just hatched. All three are normal babies (albeit very wild patterning). So did I just have bad luck or is she actually not a pastel?
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../7/pastel1.jpg

    When was this pic taken? Looks like she is glowing thus giving her a fire like appearance. Can you take a current pic of her in natural sunlight? She is most likely a normal.
  • 08-11-2014, 09:48 PM
    katep788
    That picture was taken during lunch in natural sunlight (taken just with my ipad). She weighs 1900g now, was 1100g when I bought her so imagine my surprise when she laid three eggs! She was only 800g after laying :( :(
  • 08-11-2014, 09:56 PM
    katep788
    This is a recent picture in a room with very little lighting
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/3/7/mom2.jpg
  • 08-11-2014, 09:59 PM
    katep788
  • 08-12-2014, 02:46 AM
    carlisleishere
    Re: Pastel?
    She looks like a very browned out pastel. You just struck out on the pastel hatchlings.
  • 08-12-2014, 07:58 AM
    joebad976
    Re: Pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carlisleishere View Post
    She looks like a very browned out pastel. You just struck out on the pastel hatchlings.

    I agree
  • 06-10-2015, 11:49 AM
    katep788
    Re: Pastel?
    Hi All,

    I return again with more info. My "pastel"(??) girl laid six eggs from a pairing to a black pewter. They hatched this week. One was unfortunately very kinked (I know I had temp issues at the very beginning otherwise it was all solid) and died as soon as he/she started breathing air. I think the two major kinks behind his/her head were not supportive of life. Of the rest, five were fine. Here is a picture of the live clutch and also the one who died (for reference). So... what did I get? I've been told the very light one is a super pastel black pastel (aka silver streak) but I would like additional opinions. First picture with no flash, then flash, then deformed hatchling, then sire.

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...7/img_1531.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...7/img_1529.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...7/img_1516.jpg
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/3/7/sire.jpg

    Kate
  • 06-10-2015, 11:56 AM
    katep788
    Re: Pastel?
    The thing that throws me if the lightest one is not a silver streak, is that the kinked one also had a very light head, but much darker body than the super light one. I would think that made the kinked one a black pewter and the very light one something more... is that the right way to look at it? Without the kinked one, I would think that I likely just got a very very blushed out black pewter with the super light one, since I didn't get any other super pastel types.
  • 06-10-2015, 12:28 PM
    che
    I am by no means an expert.

    But to me I see two pastels, a normal, a ridiculously nice black pastel and an amazing black pewter.

    For me , the black pastel (snake in the middle with head to left bottom corner) is really light and blushed out so i see how the black pewter is so faded.

    Lets wait to hear what the more experienced guys say though.

    Congrats on a great clutch!!
  • 06-10-2015, 01:40 PM
    Asherah
    I also see two pastels, a normal, a black pastel and a pewter. Nice hatchlings! Sorry about the kinked guy.
  • 06-10-2015, 05:38 PM
    KitaCat
    Re: Pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Asherah View Post
    I also see two pastels, a normal, a black pastel and a pewter. Nice hatchlings! Sorry about the kinked guy.

    These were my guesses as well.

    Congrats! That pewter is smoking.
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