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  • 07-28-2014, 01:58 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    subtrate for maternal incubation
    I currently have my mama snake on paper towels. What would be the best substrate to have her on while the eggs cook with her?
  • 07-28-2014, 02:56 AM
    Virus
    I'm having success with Eco-earth. It's also my favorite substrate for ball pythons in general. I just periodically misted the substrate around momma, and then added a large tupperware container with water next to her to maintain higher humidity.
  • 07-28-2014, 03:05 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Cool thanks. Iv Tryed reptiles bark and eco earth for my snakes but switch to paper towels cause of less to clean up and the snakes love it. Lol. I'll pick some eco earth up tomorrow. Now to try to separate her from the eggs without gettin bit. Lol.
  • 07-28-2014, 03:13 AM
    Virus
    Honestly, I'd just prepare the eco-earth over the next day or so, and then slowly add it around her. That way you don't end up bothering her too much.

    Also, my females ended up pushing most of the eco-earth out from under them. So, I just mounded a little extra up around them.
  • 07-28-2014, 03:39 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Thanks. Yes really attached to her hide she's in. She's squeesed in there with the six eggs. How do I get the eco earth in the hide without making her stressed?
  • 07-28-2014, 03:57 AM
    Virus
    Well, personally, I'd just add it around the hide. It'd get the humidity up. Though, you would be hard pressed to see when the eggs are pipping. Perhaps remove the hide after awhile? I'm no expert by any means, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. I'm interested in seeing what others would suggest. :)
  • 07-28-2014, 04:18 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Thanks virus. I'll move the hide when it gets closer to hatching time.I can't wait to see what comes out. Great surprise to come home to. Lol
  • 07-28-2014, 06:17 PM
    Virus
    It definitely is. I've been thrilled every day getting up, and coming home from work to check on my eggs that are hatching. What day are the eggs on?
  • 07-28-2014, 08:12 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Mine are on day two. I got a long ways to go. :( to be honest even if their all normals I will be excited. To watch the process for the first time is amazing. I such a worrier tho. I'm checking on temp and humidity like every five minutes. Lol.
  • 07-28-2014, 08:24 PM
    Virus
    I understand the paranoia, but I didn't check on mine obsessively. I waited a day or two in between check-ins on mine.

    What genetics are involved in your clutch?
  • 07-28-2014, 11:12 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    I'm not sure what she's paired with. The dude had a lot of bps. She was Gravid when I got her. I was told she was a he when I got her. I've had her for a month. I hope something cool even tho I have to get rid of them after they eat and shed. The wife doesn't know about the female or the eggs. She never goes by the tank so it's easy to hide till they hatch. Lol. I Tryed posting in adoption for my area so they go to good homes but can't figure out how to post there.I'm more concerned about finding good homes instead of money.
  • 07-28-2014, 11:44 PM
    Virus
    I mean, if you get a pied or anything out of it, I wouldn't complain if one magically came my way. :P
  • 07-29-2014, 01:11 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Lol. If u liv close to me u can have as many as u want. I rather give them to people on this site then pet stores or Craig's list. At least I know they would be in good hands. And to be honest a pied and black widow are my dream pythons. We will see what I get. I might be able to talk the wife into keeping one if I earn extra brownie points. Haha
  • 07-29-2014, 10:31 AM
    CORBIN911
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmcgilvrey83 View Post
    I'm not sure what she's paired with. The dude had a lot of bps. She was Gravid when I got her. I was told she was a he when I got her. I've had her for a month. I hope something cool even tho I have to get rid of them after they eat and shed. The wife doesn't know about the female or the eggs. She never goes by the tank so it's easy to hide till they hatch. Lol. I Tryed posting in adoption for my area so they go to good homes but can't figure out how to post there.I'm more concerned about finding good homes instead of money.


    This all seems a little odd...

    So you have a gravid female ok..

    You bought her as a boy???:confusd:

    This guy has alot of snakes, assuming hes a breeder, why/how would he not know

    If he DID know why was he pairing Male to Male, Or pairing at all IF he doesnt know....

    Now you just magically have a prego snake, I feel as if you paired and didnt want to admit because QT...

    Just seems odd that you have a prego male snake, because the breeding aspect wouldnt match up.
  • 07-29-2014, 12:27 PM
    Archimedes
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    This all seems a little odd...

    So you have a gravid female ok..

    You bought her as a boy???:confusd:

    This guy has alot of snakes, assuming hes a breeder, why/how would he not know

    If he DID know why was he pairing Male to Male, Or pairing at all IF he doesnt know....

    Now you just magically have a prego snake, I feel as if you paired and didnt want to admit because QT...

    Just seems odd that you have a prego male snake, because the breeding aspect wouldnt match up.

    I think this was more of a bad husbandry situation on the previous owner's part, perhaps he cohabbed two 'males' and then sold one to OP. the OP admits he's been trying to pair his two normals with no success and happened upon this chance-gravid snake.

    If the OP admits he's cohabbing his own two, why wouldn't he own up to having paired this one?
  • 07-29-2014, 12:45 PM
    Zach Cedor
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    This all seems a little odd...

    So you have a gravid female ok..

    You bought her as a boy???:confusd:

    This guy has alot of snakes, assuming hes a breeder, why/how would he not know

    If he DID know why was he pairing Male to Male, Or pairing at all IF he doesnt know....

    Now you just magically have a prego snake, I feel as if you paired and didnt want to admit because QT...

    Just seems odd that you have a prego male snake, because the breeding aspect wouldnt match up.

    Not to hijack this thread but corbin do you feel the need to be rude or put people down on a constant basis? This forum is here so people can ask questions and learn about these wonderful animals if you keep putting people down or attempting to make people feel stupid for no apparent reason they will stop asking questions at all which means they won't be learning proper care for these animals and even more will suffer from ignorant owner's.

    Didn't your mother ever teach you the old saying If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all!
  • 07-29-2014, 12:48 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zach Cedor View Post
    Not to hijack this thread but corbin do you feel the need to be rude or put people down on a constant basis? This forum is here so people can ask questions and learn about these wonderful animals if you keep putting people down or attempting to make people feel stupid for no apparent reason they will stop asking questions at all which means they won't be learning proper care for these animals and even more will suffer from ignorant owner's.

    Didn't your mother ever teach you the old saying If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all!

    Works for you aswell.

    I could send you to links on other forums were harsh truth works. Sometimes not everyone gets a smiley go happy response.

    Little fabricated tales to hide bad actions once a member calls on it. We all handle QT lightly but awful things can happen on that video. Me asking a semi relevant question seems fair since it's such a "odd" mishap ;)
  • 07-29-2014, 12:57 PM
    Zach Cedor
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    Works for you aswell.

    I could send you to links on other forums were harsh truth works. Sometimes not everyone gets a smiley go happy response.

    Little fabricated tales to hide bad actions once a member calls on it. We all handle QT lightly but awful things can happen on that video. Me asking a semi relevant question seems fair since it's such a "odd" mishap ;)

    I'm quite aware of the lack of qt situation but to go around and accuse people or improper quarantine when you have no idea what happened and this thread was simply to inquire about substrate for maternal incubation. If the post was regarding sick snakes or the op has said that he paired his recently acquired female then at that point a simple question regarding qt is fair, but the only question mark I see in your post involves the gender of the snake. You actually ACCUSED the op of improper quarantine. There is a difference between questions and accusations
  • 07-29-2014, 12:59 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    That or he can take it with a grain of salt and actually talk to the breeder for his. "Improper" sales. Regardless it was a question and it seems to perfectly played. As soon as asked about QT getting defensive
  • 07-29-2014, 01:00 PM
    Zach Cedor
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Apologize you also asked why the breeder paired male to male and why he didnt know she was gravid still no question about qt
  • 07-29-2014, 01:03 PM
    Zach Cedor
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    That or he can take it with a grain of salt and actually talk to the breeder for his. "Improper" sales. Regardless it was a question and it seems to perfectly played. As soon as asked about QT getting defensive

    Actually the op hasn't posted about your qt ACCUSATION. So how is he getting defensive? Seems to be that I'm defending the op.
  • 07-29-2014, 01:05 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Look earlier in post. I'm done here. If you come to a forum to ask for help. Be straight up. Just look at the post after post doesn't add up
  • 07-29-2014, 01:15 PM
    Zach Cedor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    Look earlier in post. I'm done here. If you come to a forum to ask for help. Be straight up. Just look at the post after post doesn't add up

    Are you sure your reading the right forum because again the op has not responded to your accusation of imroper qt. Which again is only an accusation that you have no facts for just conjecture. Are you aware of the difference between facts and conjecture? Don't respond to a post if your going to make assumptions without facts to back those assumptions.
  • 07-29-2014, 01:17 PM
    Zach Cedor
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Btw op I'm excited for you and I will be checking for updates on these eggs!!
  • 07-29-2014, 02:49 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    I got her from a guy on Craig's list that was no longer into snakes and was giving her away. It was a rescue type deal.
  • 07-29-2014, 03:01 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    This all seems a little odd...

    So you have a gravid female ok..

    You bought her as a boy???:confusd:

    This guy has alot of snakes, assuming hes a breeder, why/how would he not know

    If he DID know why was he pairing Male to Male, Or pairing at all IF he doesnt know....

    Now you just magically have a prego snake, I feel as if you paired and didnt want to admit because QT...



    Just seems odd that you have a prego male snake, because the breeding aspect wouldnt match up.

    I have two albinos and two normals that are housed together. Both pairs are one female and one male. And in a four foot by two foot tank. The one that was Gravid I got from a guy a month ago from Craig's list that was getting rid of his snakes. I got her for free. It was more of a rescue deal. She in a tank by her self. Qt is a must. Plus I wouldn't house more then two snakes together. Only reason I housed the other two pairs is cause they have been together sence they were sexed as baby's.
  • 07-29-2014, 03:17 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    I might not know much about Gravid snakes but I take very good care of my animals. I wrote this post to get answers not accused of stuff u know nothing about
  • 07-29-2014, 03:21 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Re: subtrate for maternal incubation
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmcgilvrey83 View Post
    I have two albinos and two normals that are housed together. Both pairs are one female and one male. And in a four foot by two foot tank. The one that was Gravid I got from a guy a month ago from Craig's list that was getting rid of his snakes. I got her for free. It was more of a rescue deal. She in a tank by her self. Qt is a must. Plus I wouldn't house more then two snakes together. Only reason I housed the other two pairs is cause they have been together sence they were sexed as baby's.

    Both pairs are in didfrent tanks if last reply isn't clear about it.
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