Het pied?

This is my 50% poss het pied male. He has a ring on his tail. Are the het pied markers true? Are his belly markings the rail road tracks? Here are some photos:

http://i.imgur.com/Tepd9Yb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2a09HDX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/891vKD6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/54XXfL6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wkqPYCJ.jpg

I am not the pied expert here at all and don't want to be BUT that would be one male I would gamble on.:gj:

Yea its like he has a piece of pied in him lol .. he should prove out for id put money on it and if not he be one of the coolest normans ever ... good luck

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Originally Posted by steve_r34

Yea its like he has a piece of pied in him lol .. he should prove out for id put money on it and if not he be one of the coolest normans ever ... good luck

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Thanks! I wasn't even in the market for a het pied or normal for that matter, but he was priced the same as the normal males. A deal I couldn't resist, I couldn't leave without him!

U got him at a show?

Ah yeah, I'd give him a go...especially when you consider that the coloration around that ringer is Pied color LOL. :gj:

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Originally Posted by steve_r34

U got him at a show?

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Yeah, about 6 months ago

I was ready for another thread full of "all you can do is prove him out" answers but after seeing him I don't think anyone has a doubt that he's het pied

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Originally Posted by BumbleB

I was ready for another thread full of "all you can do is prove him out" answers but after seeing him I don't think anyone has a doubt that he's het pied

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Haha, yeah he's a bit of a different case! I was really wondering if the visual ringer led to a higher chance of being het pied?

Na at the end . Of the day theres only one way to know for sure .. I think the tracks have been denied too

Either way he is a nice ringer. I think everyone should have a good ringer in their collection. Good luck!

Thanks!

I've read somewhere that ringers are very low white pieds, so that snake may be a 5% white pied...

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Originally Posted by TheBallPythons

I've read somewhere that ringers are very low white pieds, so that snake may be a 5% white pied...

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But even very low white Pieds have the aberrant Pied pattern in the colored areas of their body.

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Originally Posted by TheBallPythons

I've read somewhere that ringers are very low white pieds, so that snake may be a 5% white pied...

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Where'd you read that? I think that's innacurate.

OP- I would say that's a het pied.

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As far as everything else goes, no - het pied markers are not reliable. That being said, if I were to choose a 50% pied based on they way they look, and this boy was in the bunch, I'd buy him.

Even if he didn't prove out, he's still cool looking.

Gale

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Originally Posted by angllady2

As far as everything else goes, no - het pied markers are not reliable. That being said, if I were to choose a 50% pied based on they way they look, and this boy was in the bunch, I'd buy him.

Even if he didn't prove out, he's still cool looking.

Gale

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I respectfully disagree.
They aren't reliable, but you'd pick him out to buy? So you'd be relying on those markers as to what you're basing your choice on...

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What stood out the most to me was that the white of the ring is visible all the way under the belly.

Mike, what I meant is, there is no 100% accurate het pied marker. But that doesn't mean all other thing being considered, you can't use the presence of certain traits to up the odds. At least, you hope they will.

So in the example I used. If I were to look at a clutch of normals labeled as 50% het pieds, and there were six snakes that looked like pretty much every other normal, and this one snake, if I were to choose one with the hope it would be 50% het, it would be this one.

Gale